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Post by peoplescommittee on Feb 21, 2005 22:00:17 GMT
I don't see why everybody keeps pointing out the White Album photo of the guy at the piano; it's George Martin.
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Post by PaulBearer on Feb 23, 2005 8:38:36 GMT
He looks like he could be the man on the bus at the start of MMT IMO.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Feb 23, 2005 14:13:48 GMT
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Post by PaulBearer on Feb 24, 2005 5:58:02 GMT
I meant the second photo of course. The Billy Shepperd born in Ontario! Perhaps we need a gif comparison with him. The other guy I'm pretty sure is George Martin so I think you're barking up the wrong tree there BP but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they're all the same person. My brain hurts!
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Post by BeatlePaul on Feb 24, 2005 9:56:58 GMT
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Post by abbey on Feb 24, 2005 15:25:12 GMT
So does mine, P.B. So does mine.
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Post by Apollo C. Vermouth on Feb 25, 2005 2:09:06 GMT
Consider this...
Pay no attention to the man at the piano, but rather what is placed ON the piano.
Apollo
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 25, 2005 6:57:16 GMT
Consider this... Pay no attention to the man at the piano, but rather what is placed ON the piano. Apollo Apollo, yes, interesting--it could be. It looks like what was displayed here a while back. Apollo--you seem to just pop out at the unexpected moment! You are like a piece of computer software--like an anti-virus program that only comes out from "running in the background" when a piece of curious data is detected........ You are our "Norton Utilities". Speed disk......... But, I think someone is running "Conflict Catcher", too, that is a good program as well. There was Windows 98, ME, and NT. There was Mac OS 8, 9, and now X! Let me introduce: "TKIN-Turbo-Platinum 9.0"......... ....OK, Perp, baby, going beyond the line of logic again, sweetheart.....pop a melatonin and lay down..........
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Post by unrepentant on Mar 11, 2005 0:45:59 GMT
or something addressing the first paul is dead rumor? anyway i wish the people with answers would JUST GIVE THEM and stop prolonging this unholy thing if you guys in answer land EVER cared about james paul, we need you to come out with what you know. enough cryptic bullsh!t already.
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Post by Red Lion on Mar 11, 2005 10:47:46 GMT
Consider this... Pay no attention to the man at the piano, but rather what is placed ON the piano. Apollo Apollo has a point. George Martin (and yes beyond any doubt that is Big GM ) is off to the side. While those photos (perhaps of JPM) are nearly square in the middle of that pic. Why pictures and not sheet music?? Maybe for a certain someone to view poses, expressions and mannerisms??
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Post by abbey on Mar 11, 2005 16:14:46 GMT
Apollo has a point. George Martin (and yes beyond any doubt that is Big GM ) is off to the side. While those photos (perhaps of JPM) are nearly square in the middle of that pic. Why pictures and not sheet music?? Maybe for a certain someone to view poses, expressions and mannerisms?? I agree with you Red Lion. I think it is a way to tell the "imitator" to change this or that in his actions or facial expressions. You would think someone playing a piano would have a sheet of music above the keys. They had to get Bill's everything to be as close to Paul's as possible.
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 11, 2005 20:03:01 GMT
Well, yes, but, the only thing about that is, I have a baby grand in my house. And, as I look at it now, (slob that I have become), there is mail, open and unopened, pens, a pencil, a CD case, a Heather Headley poster, still folded up, a TV guide, and over to the side, a couple of hardback biographies, 3 DVD cases, 4 out of date magazines, and 3 nearly empty soda cans.
Everyone isn't the flagrant messy like me, but itmes tend to land in innappropriate places during rehearsals and meetings and so forth. Like this pizza box and the Mrs. Winner's chicken sack my roommate left on the floor nearby. Hmmmmmm......
Hey, ROOOOM MAAATE!.........................
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 11, 2005 22:18:52 GMT
If so, then William well knew the Beatles prior to the events of 1966.
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Post by Red Lion on Mar 11, 2005 23:54:40 GMT
If so, then William well knew the Beatles prior to the events of 1966. A point rarely discussed here but probably true.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Mar 12, 2005 0:45:20 GMT
If so, then William well knew the Beatles prior to the events of 1966. Yes. Bill was a "Paperback Writer". BILLY SHEphERd = BILLY SHEERs Just like William (BILL) reallY-SHakes-up-his-pEERS or BILLY SHEERS for short was a play writer, and friend of the Queen. (Yes, the one and only!) And yes, I know it's SHEARS and that he may not have actually been the one and only, but the point is made. Incidentally, the "A" was added to Shakespeare too.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Mar 12, 2005 4:14:23 GMT
i wish the people with answers would JUST GIVE THEM and stop prolonging this unholy thing if you guys in answer land EVER cared about james paul, we need you to come out with what you know. enough cryptic bullsh!t already. Are you sitting comfortably? Your request has fallen on sympathetic ears,Unrepentant, although the listeners are somewhat laughing about your New York attitude. "Just give me the truth! All I want is the truth!" (I'd say you're in good company Unrepentant. ) Here's a message to you, from "your friends in 'answer land'". (Byrdsmaniac apologizes to anyone who is offended by this message or the way it is being delivered.) Unrepentant, we know your frustration. There is not much time to sleuth. Still, there is "a method to the madness". We wouldn't want to spoil the adventure, and we can't do your work for you. Still, when a request is made, assistance can be offered. Consider, then, this song: Every time I look at you I don't understand Why you let the things you did get so out of hand You'd have managed better if you'd had it all planned Now why'd you choose such a backward time in such a strange land? If you'd come today you could have reached the whole nation Israel in 4 BC had no mass communication Don't you get me wrong (etc.) I only want to know (etc.) Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ Who are you; what have you sacrificed? (and so forth) Yes, Israel 4 BC had no mass communication, but in the 1960's it existed. In fact you could say it was starting to blossom, but it had not reached the point of being overwhelming, as it is now. It could be said that it was the time most favorable for reaching the maximum number of people with a message, in as much as they tended to all be watching the same three TV networks, or tuned into the same ten radio stations, and so on. The Beatles came out at an optimal time for a major impact, as did their fellow travelers in the music business at the time. Many messages were given to the "rock and roll" generation on many levels. And truly, many for a purpose greater than the promotion of drugs and promiscuity, although your parents may not have felt that that was the case. It could be said that the message of the Beatles was, as you well know, the message of love. Was that not also supposed to have been the message in 4 BC when there "was no mass communication?" It is a message for those who will need to have the words in their hearts when the Earth itself begins to "rock and roll". P.S. I love you.
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 12, 2005 4:49:03 GMT
Scripture Reading: Luke 21:10-11, 25-29 Then He said to them, "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven. "And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men's hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near." So, those in the know have been trying to prepare society for hard times? www.watchman.net/articles/responsibility.html"To sleep, perchance to dream........"
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 12, 2005 5:36:17 GMT
Alright. Alright then. There are a few things I would like to know. I would not like to know them at the risk of my life or freedom, I'll be honest and say that.
I could never prove these issues we wrestle with here.
And, beyond 2 or 3 people in my private life, I would never really even, at this point, raise the issues........
I have questions. I raise them one at a time from here.
Wait: let me go trim my eyebrows; they're as wild and wooly as Larry Hagman's right now....oh, I'll do it later. Anyway:
I could resolve better, personally, to be able to know, by some discreet, untrackable means if necessary, privately and for myself only, how and why JPM died. Overdose? Car wreck? Stroke? Murdered? Gradual wasting illness? Suicide? Jealous fit? Agreed, it is none of my business, as a fan and a consumer, or as an internet barfly carousing for my tidbits. Actually, I don't want to think of myself that way. I love music, as James Paul did, as we all do here, and this topic has struck a sympathetic vibration in my soul, for some reason that I can not discover. I need to resolve in my head if he was killed on purpose, accident, or, was he, like so many others in music, cursed by falling into a drug routine that went terribly wrong one night. Keeping that from his fans would have been gracious. Dignity purchased by love, afforded by gracious people.
Was it an OD? Cocaine? Heroin? Alcohol? Was it a mob hit? Was it an accident?
I know that nobody can address my question here directly. I don't expect anyone in the "know" to be free to do such; and of course, it's impossible for the dissimilation of many things. I won't be looking for what I know can't materialize.
But, I can declare, in my current mindset, what my questions are, for, they are JUST questions. Stating them plainly and openly is a way to vent, and touch perhaps what it is that troubles my heart about these things. These are questions not unlike questions seen all over this forum. Who knows; for the asking, I may come to divide between what is feasible, and what is vain about our position here.
I have lost friends to drug overdoses, AIDS, a couple of them to suicide, cancer, car wrecks, and one was viciously murder in his own store.
Why, in Atlanta today, a man on trial for a rape/kidnapping went into a murderous rage, grab a gun and shot and killed 3 or 4 people IN THE COURTROOM! He killed the judge! He killed the court reporter! In cold blood, in broad daylight, with witnesses, and escaped on foot.
What a monster.
We live in scary times.
So, my heart is heavy today over many issues, and truth be told, I really want to put this one somewhat behind me. I have pondered, perplexed, partied with the other members, but then, agonized at other times about it. I've cried, laughed, been serious, came to love the Beatles music (solo and group) more than ever, and learned a lot about a chapter of world music-pop culture history that will never be equaled.
I've been trolling (not in the troublemaker sense) these boards since the last week of August, 2003. I joined here on Sept 5, 2003.
I am no more deserving to know than the thousands of others through the years who wondered about it, then put it out of their minds. And, I surmise, none of them know today, either!
And, I don't want to carry any more information in my foolish head than I can stay alive with!
Better to know nothing, and live, and work and do! I'll say that!
But, I will always wonder why and how.
OK, my second question:I will always wonder, though he surely resembled the man living today,whatever in the world, full face, did James Paul McCartney look like? For, noone of the four Beatles look their most natural on the covers of those middle 3 albums.
And, I close this post before Barbara Eden appears before me in a cloud of pink smoke. She'd mistake me for Larry Hagman with these unruly eyebrows..ooh., no why'd I think it: Farry Fagman.
Or, maybe it's true after all: the genie in the pink belly-dancing outfit has all the answers.............
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 12, 2005 5:52:53 GMT
Yes. Bill was a "Paperback Writer". BILLY SHEphERd = BILLY SHEERs Just like William (BILL) reallY-SHakes-up-his-pEERS or BILLY SHEERS for short was a play writer, and friend of the Queen. (Yes, the one and only!) And yes, I know it's SHEARS and that he may not have actually been the one and only, but the point is made. ..about a man named Lear....... Here's a summary of King Lear: absoluteshakespeare.com/guides/king_lear/summary/king_lear_summary.htmThere is a subplot about concealed identities............
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 12, 2005 6:37:17 GMT
Yes, exactly, and it is from the climax of that subplot the audio from the radioplay is inserted into the end of "I Am The Walrus."
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Post by BeatlePaul on Mar 12, 2005 13:40:27 GMT
OK, my second question:I will always wonder, though he surely resembled the man living today,whatever in the world, full face, did James Paul McCartney look like? For, noone of the four Beatles look their most natural on the covers of those middle 3 albums.
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 13, 2005 9:01:12 GMT
At the risk of seeming facetious, which you know I can face, are you telling me that Paul used to look like Angela Lansbury does nowadays?
Or, does Angela now look the way Paul once looked?
Or, Paul is alive and going around dressed up as Ms. Lansbury? A new act? Well, ho, I would be glad he isn't, at least, doing a campy impersonation of Bette Davis.......
Bette Davis huffing through "Eleanor Rigby"..oh, why'd I think it. Its now playing in my mind....See, Bette put a big aspirant "H" in front of Huh'every-h-thing! In a stiff and imperious bark:
H'-Eleanor H'Rigby, h'Puts on a Fuh-hace that she kuh-heeps in a j-hah' ......by the doah.....Who is it fuh-oa!........
Hall the hlonely h'people. Weh h'do they h'all ....B-lhong......
So, Paul had a look in some mode, akin to what Ms. Lansbury has?
Round, owlish, birdlike?
A typically British look.......
Maybe there NEVER was a Paul McCartney. Maybe he was a Lennon fiction, a real nowhere man, and they kept getting different people to "be" Paul, but nobody ever worked out for very long. Maybe there was a new Paul every 4 months.......
Maybe, James Paul (Of course there was a real James Paul to start with)Maybe he developed such a pervasive drug habit, that the others got very nervous. Maybe, a replacement , or a stand-in, or understudy, if you will, was being groomed (not, in this first case, William) as insurance should Paul completely wig out or overdose.........
Maybe this new person was the "Revolver".
Maybe the Revolver sings and performs certain tunes--as he was a talented lefty too, just taller and less small. Brown hair, not black. A chipped tooth and a damaged chin.......
Maybe Paul #1 did not die, but became disabled from his habit, or from some horrid event. Maybe Paul IS alive today, but in cognito/incommunicado.....
Maybe "The Revolver" is the one that got killed, just when he was about to take over the role....
Maybe, William, is the subsequent person for whom the obsequious and ungracious task, was to emulate a blend of TWO people........and given his 2 or 3 radical transitions between 1966 and 1968 (with a couple more to follow), then the chore of graphically back-engineering Paul to compensate for this extreme state of affairs has created the impossibly convoluted library of James Paul McCartney pictures we see today.....
There are SO many "looks" to Paul....not just 2.........
"Paul" seems to be a staff.......... Paulstaff........
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Mar 13, 2005 18:53:26 GMT
Keep going! You're almost there Perplexed, at the end of the yellow brick road! Oh, no, wait! That was in Revolution #8 and 1/2. You're still on that Long Winding Road! And that's a bit like the Abbey Road!
And tho' I can't speak for BP, I'm pretty sure you've HIT SOME THINGS RIGHT ON THE HEAD here, Perplexed.
To wit: (Like when I get around to it A ROUND to it like a record with a scratch goes around one revolution after another, revolution #1, revolution #2, around you could call it a revolver, like when you said "Maybe 'Revolver' is the one that got killed just when he was about to take over the role"
"I read the news today, Oh boy!" [perhaps?])
but any way, to wit: "Paul is...dressing as Mrs. LansBURY" Paul dressing like Desmond and Molly Jones.
And "the insurance should Paul completely wig out." Couldn't a said it better myself!
Paulstaff. Yes, Paul's staff. Sister Mary Abbey gets all grossed out, but uh, even it had a role in the play. Play, Playboy. Let's not go there. ;D
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Mar 13, 2005 19:23:04 GMT
Was it an OD? Cocaine? Heroin? Alcohol? Was it a mob hit? Was it an accident? Why... today, a man on trial went into a murderous rage, killed 3 or 4 people IN THE COURTROOM! He killed the judge! He killed the court reporter! In cold blood, in broad daylight, with witnesses, and escaped Quote #1: Yes. (But see "Did Paul Commit Suicide?" thread.) Quote #2: All I can say is sometimes the Cosmos gives clues in a really big way!
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Mar 13, 2005 22:16:32 GMT
[/center][/quote] Hmmmm. Would this be the ANGELa Lansbury who starred in the TV series "MURDER she wrote"? Red rum! Red Rum! RedRum! Red Rum!!!
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