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|  | Sylvie Vartan Is Dead « Thread Started on Aug 31, 2004, 11:17am » | |
Told friend about 60if, gave him link, he asked me about things in it i didn´t read!!
I had to re-read 60IF, many questions in my head
At the end of the same week a negro friend of Ringo called to say that people he knew had seen Paul in France. We flew to Paris but Paul was no longer in the place where he was seen before.
As more days passed, our apprehension grew.
At the end of the next week a call was received from a girl that had found Paul near her house, wandering along a hill in a confused state.
where did you get this? How do you know? How come the negro thing? How come that paul seen in a hill?? how do you know?
Brian went back to retrieve Paul and Sunday they started their trip to return home.
How do you know this, that Brian found Paul in France? So this means Paul and Brian death was in France? How come?
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #1 on Aug 31, 2004, 11:31am » | |
Many chronologies tell that Brian and Paul were in France on that week too. Latest details on 60IF were from an insider that contacted us. The original document was FULL of true directions but probably a "paragraph" didn't arrive and something was bad translated too (e.g. Sheppard -> Shepherd because the reference was Bungalow Bill William Sheppard). But "the core" is untouched. Nothing is changed.
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #2 on Aug 31, 2004, 1:51pm » | |
And weren't they than run off the rode and killed on their return trip?
Why was Paul wondering around France dazed and out of his mind? Had someone given him some drug that caused confusion or reacted with other drugs he might have been using?
Sorry, I have been away awhile and missed something important evidently.
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #3 on Aug 31, 2004, 4:36pm » | |
i missed this addition, too.
but: how does paul being in france the week before being killed (if i understood this right), relate to what was discussed in this thread: http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?bo....read=1066858237, where september 9 is named as the most probable actual date for the recording of the melody maker awards show?
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|  | great « Reply #4 on Aug 31, 2004, 8:17pm » | |
i think it's time to release EVERYTHING sun king has, and now. this is one of the biggest conspiracies ever and we're screwing around without any battle plan.
release everything as soon as possible....anything less amounts to capitulation on our part.
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #5 on Sept 1, 2004, 6:43am » | |
The MM awards were possibly on about the 2nd, the prior week which would have been just after arriving back in London after their US tour. The only way we are gonna know for sure is confirmation from someone who was involved in some way aorund that time I guess.
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #6 on Sept 1, 2004, 2:57pm » | |
Quote: Why was Paul wondering around France dazed and out of his mind? Had someone given him some drug that caused confusion or reacted with other drugs he might have been using?
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He was probably in some delusional schizoid state from all the acid he was ingesting. Not a pretty sight.
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #7 on Sept 1, 2004, 3:11pm » | |
Quote:And weren't they than run off the rode and killed on their return trip?
Why was Paul wondering around France dazed and out of his mind? Had someone given him some drug that caused confusion or reacted with other drugs he might have been using?
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... looking at the "Fool On The Hill" video it seems "yes"...
.... but ... who was "Michelle" then?
But this is just another thread....
http://60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?bo....read=1094069337
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #8 on Sept 1, 2004, 5:07pm » | |
![[image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/beatlepaulmccartney/sylvie_vartan/sylvie_vartan_dress_and_the_wall.jpg)
![[image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/beatlepaulmccartney/sylvie_vartan/sylvie_vartan_olympia_1964-13.jpg)
Sylvie on Abbey Road back cover? (just a speculation)
"On August 15th 66, Sylvie Vartan gave birth to a boy called David. She waited until October before starting work again and dedicated her next single, "Ballade pour un sourire", to her baby son. She went on tour in Turkey and notched up another hit, "Par amour par pitié"."
Who's child is that?
TWO WIVES AND KID TO SUPPORT
(just another speculation)
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #9 on Sept 1, 2004, 6:20pm » | |
![[image]](http://www.sylvievartanshow.com/scenes60/Olympia1964/Olympia1964-9.jpg)
Sylvie seemed "never the same" after 1966.
![[image]](http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~onepoint/sylvie%20vartan%201.JPG) ![[image]](http://www.ytt.fr/images/00avril/CD4.jpg)
A "Sylvie" song from 1972
I have two hands, I have two feet, a mouth and then a nose
I do not cry Even when you give me desire of it I lime pits not Even when I remain alone all the night I do not speak When you do not want to speak Concurrently to you, I became the girl whom you wanted
{ Refrain: } Oh! I do not have any more a heart I am an object A pretty cut out paper flower I do not have any more a heart I am only one toy Who of an air mocker does nothing but repeat I have two hands, I have two feet, A mouth and then a nose
Thanks to you however I could reappear with the life It is still time But you do not realize time which flees And so much worse for you When you awake You will not find That a strange mechanics Who will say to you: { with the Refrain, x2 }
Maybe a better translation needed but...
It's a song about a double?
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #10 on Sept 1, 2004, 6:49pm » | |
![[image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/beatlepaulmccartney/sylvie_vartan/sylvie_sanremo.jpg) ![[image]](http://www.ytt.fr/images/00avril/CD4.jpg)
.... "Girl, you been a naughty girl, you let your face grow long" ...
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #11 on Sept 1, 2004, 9:51pm » | |
This is interesting, I have to wonder what her relationship was with Paul, and who is the father of the child. I'm assuming she has remained silent on this? I notice in the picture with the group she's playing the bass, or playing at it anyway. Michelle, ma belle.. hmmm...
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #12 on Sept 1, 2004, 10:36pm » | |
here's a link w/ tons of photos......http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.aplmusique.com/vartan/vartanp.htm&prev=/searc h%3Fq%3DSylvie%2BVartan%2B%2Bphotos%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8
convince me sk.
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #13 on Sept 2, 2004, 1:04am » | |
Note Portrait 7 (Dead Sheets) --- 1966.
All the other portraits of 1966 are simply numbered 1 to 10 but number 7 specifically says "Dead Sheets".
Plenty of photos there for gif comparisons for those that are capable of it.
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #14 on Sept 2, 2004, 4:41am » | |
![[image]](http://www.aplmusique.com/vartan/images/19662.jpg)
It's strange.... that photo is dated 1967 so that kid should be 1 year old....
that KID ...and.... can you see a "resemblance" with "someone" else?
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #15 on Sept 2, 2004, 4:52am » | |
Quote:here's a link w/ tons of photos......http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.aplmusique.com/vartan/vartanp.htm&prev=/searc h%3Fq%3DSylvie%2BVartan%2B%2Bphotos%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8
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![[image]](http://www.aplmusique.com/vartan/images/vartan652.jpg) ![[image]](http://www.aplmusique.com/vartan/images/sylvie67.jpg)
Before any comparison. It "seems" to be the same proportion
James Paul:Sylvie(round face)=Faul:Fylvie (long face)
Please don't start to call "Fylvie" .... "Fartan" too ...
P.S: "for dummies" "A proportion is an equation with a ratio on each side. It is a statement that two ratios are equal. 3/4 = 6/8 is an example of a proportion."
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #16 on Sept 2, 2004, 4:55am » | |
![[image]](http://www.aplmusique.com/vartan/images/portrait67.jpg)
Fylvie BEFORE any plastic surgery? (SPECULATION!)
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #17 on Sept 2, 2004, 5:11am » | |
My father witness: "It was told that Sylvie had a moped accidend with Johnny Halliday. After that she returned on stages and many didn't recognized her. So it was declared she had plastic surgery to fix the scars taken from that accident....but she was "so taller" too..."
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #18 on Sept 2, 2004, 5:45am » | |
![[image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/beatlepaulmccartney/sylvie_vartan/sylvie_fylvie.jpg) Eyes distance matches "a bit" but...jawbone shape and chin leght NO. Needed more documentation.
Traces of a "nose job" on Fylvie face. Sylvie had NO NEED of a "nose job"
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|  | Re: I missed it - another example « Reply #19 on Sept 2, 2004, 8:13am » | |
![[image]](http://www.sylvievartanshow.com/scenes60/Olympia1964/Olympia1964-13.jpg)
![[image]](http://www.sylvievartanshow.com/scenes60/Olympia1968/Toulouse7.jpg)
The first is from Paris show in 1964; the second is from Toulouse show in 1968; they seem two differents women to me.
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|  | Re: I missed it - another example « Reply #20 on Sept 2, 2004, 8:45am » | |
Quote:![[image]](http://www.sylvievartanshow.com/scenes60/Olympia1964/Olympia1964-13.jpg)
![[image]](http://www.sylvievartanshow.com/scenes60/Olympia1968/Toulouse7.jpg)
The first is from Paris show in 1964; the second is from Toulouse show in 1968; they seem two differents women to me. |
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Those are for you ZioMarco:
![[image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/beatlepaulmccartney/sylvie_vartan/sylvie_beatles_1965.jpg) ![[image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/beatlepaulmccartney/sylvie_vartan/fylvie_camaleonti_sanremo_1969.jpg)
Sylvie's and Fylvie's faces are PERFECTLY equalized as vertical dimension. Do you know "I Camaleonti"? Me...yes and "in person" I am cm 1.80 tall and the man on Fylvie's left is cm 175 tall
So Ringo Starr could be cm 185 and Mal Evans cm 225
Fantastic!
Yes that was Fylvie...FOR SURE!
P.S ...your comparison ....look at the nostrils...perfectly different!
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #21 on Sept 2, 2004, 8:52am » | |
Beatle Paul - That is NOT the same girl. Could you please be clearer as to what you mean about one of the people in those photos being "you"? Are you referring to the photo on the left, or the one on the right? Which person are you?
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #22 on Sept 2, 2004, 9:09am » | |
Quote:Beatle Paul - That is NOT the same girl. Could you please be clearer as to what you mean about one of the people in those photos being "you"? Are you referring to the photo on the left, or the one on the right? Which person are you?
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The only thing I can tell you is that I "performed" with "I Camaleonti" Sorry, nothing else.
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|  | Sylvie Vartan Is Dead « Reply #23 on Sept 2, 2004, 9:25am » | |
Quote:Note Portrait 7 (Dead Sheets) --- 1966.
All the other portraits of 1966 are simply numbered 1 to 10 but number 7 specifically says "Dead Sheets".
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DAMN!
This picture is called "portrait666"!!!!! Look at "Paul character's" hand/corpse silhouette!!!!!
"You think you’re cool and know what you’re doing, 666 is your name....And you still gotta swallow your pill, As you slip and you slide down the hill On the blood of the people you killed." from John's "Bring On The Lucie "
Yes I'm lonely wanna die Yes I'm lonely wanna die If I ain't dead already Ooh, girl you know the reason why
In the morning wanna die In the evening wanna die If I ain't dead already Ooh, girl you know the reason why
My mother was of the sky My father was of the earth But I am of the universe And you know what it's worth I'm lonely wanna die If I ain't dead already Ooh, girl you know the reason why
The eagle picks my eye The worm he licks my bone I feel so suicidal Just like Dylan's Mr. Jones Lonely wanna die If I ain't dead already Ooh, girl you know the reason why
The black cloud crossed my mind Blue mist round my soul Feel so suicidal Even hate my rock and roll wanna die Yeah, wanna die If I ain't dead already Ooh, girl you know the reason why
Yes, I'm lonely wanna die Yes, I'm lonely wanna die If I ain't dead already Ooh, girl you know the reason why Yes, I'm lonely wanna die
So .... - (ATTENTION:SPECULATION (?)) Sylvie killed herself BECAUSE James Paul WON'T/COULDN'T marry her?(ATTENTION:SPECULATION (?))
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|  | Re: I missed it « Reply #24 on Sept 2, 2004, 11:02am » | |
So...when was the song "Suicide" written and/or recorded? It was one of Paul's wasn't it?
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