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Post by BeatlePaul on Jul 23, 2005 23:19:12 GMT
So... Marianne Faithful was replaced "too" ... One on this forum "noticed" that Maggie McGiven was "not the same" after 1966. Find Marianne ---> Maggie ----> Nicholas connection. .... connecting the last dots ... |
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Post by Dr.No on Jul 23, 2005 23:30:34 GMT
Interesting.
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Post by plastic paul on Jul 24, 2005 0:43:00 GMT
I've been following this on NIR and dont think she is "Farianne"
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Post by tariel on Jul 24, 2005 3:26:27 GMT
Geez, what happened in '66...
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Post by BeatlePaul on Jul 24, 2005 9:17:03 GMT
 Marianne Faithful James Paul McCartney Patti Boyd |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Jul 24, 2005 9:25:43 GMT
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Post by valis on Jul 24, 2005 10:53:39 GMT
I wasn't around at the time but in my perception late 66 was the time when the world turned from black and white into a technicolor dream...Wizard Of Oz style.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jul 24, 2005 14:36:25 GMT
Brad Steiger, author of innumerable books about the paranormal, says that some people he has spoken with have said that the Earth was moved forward in time in 1966, virtually overnight. The same people were still on Earth as had been the previous day, but for some reason the move allowed people a broader viewpoint than they would have otherwise been able to have. The purpose may have been to avoid a nuclear war which was likely to occur the way things were going. Interesting, then, that the movie BP posted the link to had the nuclear war starting in Sept, 1966. This has nothing to do with Marianne Faithful being replaced, of course. Or does it?  |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Jul 25, 2005 8:14:20 GMT
Nukes news indeed....
- Marianne had OFFICIALLY a son called Nicholas.
- Maggie McGiven was OFFICALLY Marianne's son baby sitter.
- Maggie's replacement told that Maggie was in Paris with James Paul McCartney on the first half of September 1966.
- On Magical Mystery Tour there is a litte child called Nicola alone, just protected by "Uncle" John and "Uncle" George...
When Apollo C. Vermouth tells that "there are other flowers in the dirt" he means that there are other people replaced that we don't know ...yet
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Post by valis on Jul 25, 2005 11:11:39 GMT
Here's the Bill song from which the albumtitle "Flowers in the Dirt" comes, FITD is my favourite Bill album and I really love this song.
All Love Jan
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THAT DAY IS DONE
I Feel Such Sorrow,
I Feel Such Shame.
I Know I Won't Arrive On Time
Before Whatever Out There Is Gone.
What Can I Do, That Day Is Done.
It's Just A Promise, That I Made
I Said I'd Walk In Her Parade.
Hot Scalding Tears I Thought Would Flow.
Still In My Heart They'll Never Show.
That Day Is Done, That Day Is Done,
You Know Where I've Gone, I Won't Be Coming Back
That Day Is Done.
Well I Recall, The Time And Place
When They Announced Her Precious Face.
I Thought At Once My Heart Would Burst,
Still, Every Time Is Like The First.
There Was Applause When She Stepped Up.
I Wished That I Could Interrupt
I Made No Sign, I Made No Sound
I Know I Must Stay Underground.
That Day Is Done, That Day Is Done.
You Know Where I've Gone,I Won't Be Coming Back,
That Day Is Done.
That's Why She Walks, Or So They Say.
She Always Knew Just What I Needed
Now If She Would, Just Look My Way
One Time Before They Proceed.
She Sprinkles Flowers In The Dirt
That's When A Thrill Becomes A Hurt,
I Know I'll Never See Her Face.
She Walks Away From My Resting Place.
That Day Is Done, That Day Is Done.
You Know Where I've Gone, I Won't Be Coming Back,
That Day Is Done.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jul 26, 2005 0:12:10 GMT
Valis, the "Flowers in the Dirt" song seems
to be one Apollo always alludes to. Must be something there.
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Post by valis on Jul 26, 2005 0:22:18 GMT
replace her with his in the lyrics
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Jul 28, 2005 1:17:19 GMT
Whoa! Farianne definately has smaller eyes! |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Jul 28, 2005 8:50:49 GMT
Whoa! Farianne definately has smaller eyes! NO feature match... |
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Post by Perplexed on Jul 29, 2005 2:17:54 GMT
Whoa! Farianne definately has smaller eyes! Well, but not, on the left, the young one has her eyes popped wide open and is looking up and off into the corner. The older picture, the lids are heavier with maturity, and maybe drooping somewhat over the eyes; this happens to most all of us. There seem to be decades of years between the two; its hard to say that isn't the same lady. I think they seem to be so, more than not. Just my opinion.....she is lookin' a little like Penny Marshall in the more recent shot.......she was certainly a foxy lass in the 60's......... |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Jul 29, 2005 7:28:44 GMT
Whoa! Farianne definately has smaller eyes! Well, but not, on the left, the young one has her eyes popped wide open and is looking up and off into the corner. The older picture, the lids are heavier with maturity, and maybe drooping somewhat over the eyes; this happens to most all of us. There seem to be decades of years between the two; its hard to say that isn't the same lady. I think they seem to be so, more than not. Just my opinion.....she is lookin' a little like Penny Marshall in the more recent shot.......she was certainly a foxy lass in the 60's......... You are off base Perplexed. You know eyes distance can't change. See: 60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1121217221And what about mouth, nose etc... Really interesting at: home.att.net/~eppartners/marianne.html |
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Post by Perplexed on Jul 29, 2005 8:08:00 GMT
 You are off base Perplexed. You know eyes distance can't change. And what about mouth, nose etc... /quote] I maybe off base------I do see that the eyes seem to have a different spacing-----but I see the similarities as well. Of course, I extend that to the maximum by including Ms. Marshall.......... Maybe so, BP. It is hard for a person to accept that so many different folks could have been replaced. McCartney? The insane climate of Beatlemania lends that credence. The rest of this doppleCast----BP----I am not saying that it is impossible. I am not saying that you are mistaken. I am saying, that it is a hard thing to accept. Very hard. The longer the list, the harder it is. For most people to accept. I am on base about that, yes ? |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Jul 29, 2005 8:20:21 GMT
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Post by defhermit on Jul 29, 2005 17:24:13 GMT
that woman is Penny Marshal! The movie director? Also Laverne from Laverne and Shirley?
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Post by Perplexed on Jul 30, 2005 3:47:01 GMT
Penny Marshall. (You know, of "Laverne and Shirley") |
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Post by abbey on Jul 30, 2005 17:31:59 GMT
Perplexed, though you don't have a young picture of Penny Marshall, I know that age changes a person a bit. I am not sure about Marianne Faithful. You are right in saying in the young picture her eyes are open wide.......not so in the older picture. Also wasn't Marianne heavily into drugs at one time......dating Mick Jagger? If that is the case, drugs would cause her to age more rapidly and differently than if she had just "aged gracefully" on her own.
I will say that many people have been killed that no one will know about. Those who originally ran Paul and Brian off the road and later brutally killed Paul, were only minions hired by TPTB. To make sure these thugs didn't have too many pints some night and start talking, they too would have had to be eliminated.
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Post by abbey on Aug 1, 2005 15:26:17 GMT
I believe that Johnny Halliday was involved in Paul's murder. For all we know, he had TPTB order a "hit" on Paul because Paul discovered that "Sylvie" was no longer Sylvie. Paul & Sylvie were having an affair in 1965. I also believe that Johnny was having an affair with the woman who later became Fylvie, Marisa Sanei.
It's not unusual for men to be attracted to certain physical types. The fact that Marisa resembled Sylvie, just made it easier for her to replace her. She had already replaced Sylvie in Johnny's heart.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Aug 1, 2005 17:37:51 GMT
That's a pretty thought-provoking post, SMA, because
we have not had a clear sense of Marisa's role in this
caper, other than the MMT cartoon suggesting that Paul
was bewildered by "Miss Winters".
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Post by BeatlePaul on Aug 2, 2005 0:22:38 GMT
I believe that Johnny Halliday was involved in Paul's murder. For all we know, he had TPTB order a "hit" on Paul because Paul discovered that "Sylvie" was no longer Sylvie. Paul & Sylvie were having an affair in 1965. I also believe that Johnny was having an affair with the woman who later became Fylvie, Marisa Sanei. It's not unusual for men to be attracted to certain physical types. The fact that Marisa resembled Sylvie, just made it easier for her to replace her. She had already replaced Sylvie in Johnny's heart. I have to say .... perfectly agreed It was about Marisa Sannia (the true one) Halliday involved in Marianne and Maggie departure too. |
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Post by abbey on Aug 2, 2005 16:01:34 GMT
For the same reason ? Because they realized that Sylvie had been replaced ?
That is such a shame. She was a beautiful, talented young woman.
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