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Post by captaintruth on Feb 18, 2006 21:17:58 GMT
Hi !
The Cover of the Sergeant Pepper Album had many hidden clues, that maybe until today are not completely solved. One of this clues was the name of the group 'Beatles(o)' written in red flowers.
"BE AT LES o(utreau)" should be taken special note of - They lie at Outreau''...
This is what is written in the 'updated' (or more likely -in my opinion- the changed) document of '60 IF'.
But when we remember the original document there was a totally different clue :
"Be at LESO" should be taken special note of - the truth lies in LESO. LESO is not a island but the intelligence service department where there is the file brief with the name "Walrus".
So we should do a little brainstorming right here and put all the clues and suggestions concerning 'be at leso'' together to find out what this could really mean...
I'm waiting for your clues ...
sincerely yours,
captaintruth
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Feb 18, 2006 23:31:57 GMT
Are you refering to this, captain? www.dla.mil/j-3/leso/aboutleso.htmIt may not have existed in 1967. Or this: www.leso.org.nz/ ;D I believe there is an island with the name "Leso" as well. www.simonsays.com/content/book.cfm?sid=33&pid=408984"The anagram on the bottom of the cover refers to a Greek island where John Lennon had what planned? The island Leso is the "hidden Greek island" on which John Lennon planned to bury Paul, and it is spelled out as "Be at Leso" on the cover of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. " I have wondered if the message was in reference to a future event that will occur at Leso. I don't think many of us here would have sufficient income to make a journey to a Greek Island, and I doubt the Beatles would want us to come to a government office or beauracracy. But it could be a pointer; like saying "Be at Fatima", or "Strawberry Fields" etc. In any case, I wouldn't downplay the significance of "Be at Les 'O' " either. That clue has served its purpose well.
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Post by unrepentant on Feb 19, 2006 5:37:56 GMT
who cares whether there is a file brief at leso, fezo or pezo?? did the surviving beatles care....what would they need with a file brief anyway when they lived through the events firsthand?? so why "say it with flowers" on the SGT PEPPER cover of all places.
in my opinion the beatles [especially john] knew more than the guys who wrote up this "file brief" ever did about what truly happened. what do you guys think about all this?
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Post by LUCY on Feb 19, 2006 21:07:12 GMT
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Feb 21, 2006 14:55:19 GMT
The condensed version of 60IF states: "BE AT LES o(utreau)" should be taken special note of - They lie at Outreau." digilander.libero.it/p_truth/index.html Does this mean they were buried there? Also, I can't help but remember that one of the Bonzo Dog Band's best known "tunes" was called, "The Intro and the Outro". Or was it "Outreau"? I guess even that was a clue.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Feb 23, 2006 10:04:20 GMT
Lucy, this is very significant. I believe it is the Leso the Beatles were refering to on the cover of Sgt. Pepper. I believe it may be where Paul lived the final years of his life. Here's a slightly larger view of the area, unless I'm mistaken. www.sansebastianspain.info/1942maps.htm
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Post by LUCY on Feb 23, 2006 23:13:50 GMT
.........but WHY do you believe that?
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Feb 24, 2006 1:34:58 GMT
I am suffering computer screen eye "burn out" today, and so I'll answer more precisely on another day, but the short answer is because of the many references to Spain and things Spanish that seem to be related to Paul. As I wrote yesterday in the PID suspect songs thread, I believe this is sequence of events after Paul left the Beatles: (Paul) left the group, lived anonymously in New York City, then the midwestern United States, went on to Hollywood, and then moved into Mexico, and then possibly to Spain before he either died or was killed, if musical clues by Neil Young, Bob Dylan, and Faul, and Procol Harum are to be heeded. This trip is also shown to some degree on the Sgt. Pepper cover. I think that person was the real Paul McCartney. www.thrasherswheat.org/fot.htm"At a London concert at the Royal Festival Hall on February 27, 1971, Neil [Young] said before playing the song 'Cowgirl in the Sand': 'This is a song I wrote about the beaches in Spain. I've never been to the beaches in Spain. It's just my idea of what it's like over there.' " I don't think Paul was dead at the time Sgt. Pepper came out. He had, apparently, been disfigured by both a lightning strike, and a possible suicide attempt, and probably wasn't eager to be seen in public. I think what Neil was trying to hint at in the statement above was that Paul was in Spain. The song "Cowgirl In the Sand" would seem to have nothing to do with Spain, unless Paul was now buried "in the sand" in Spain, but he wasn't a "cow girl" in Spain, but the U.S. midwest. " Again, here are the lyrics of that song: www.seeklyrics.com/printer.php?lyric_id=27086Consider the words of Elton John's "Daniel" (See "Was Paul Blind?" thread) Consider the words of Procol Harum's "Conquistadore" (See "Nat Jackley" thread) Also consider the lyrics of "A Rum Tale" and "Toujours L'Amour" shown around page 15 of "Paul Is Found Where?" thread. All the songs on Procol Harum's "Grande Hotel" album were about PID, imo. Paul may have lived on an island near Leso, but been buried (for a while) there, near the beach. Now I'M going blind.
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Post by TotalInformation on Feb 24, 2006 4:20:08 GMT
(Paul) left the group, lived anonymously in New York City, then the midwestern United States, went on to Hollywood, and then moved into Mexico, and then possibly to Spain ... This trip is also shown to some degree on the Sgt. Pepper cover
A lot to do between sept. and april.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Feb 24, 2006 14:12:43 GMT
I agree. I don't think Paul was dead at the time he was relaced by 'Faul I' (the "American Dream"). I would think Paul left the Beatles sometime around August 1965. Faul I would have been in the period of August 1965 to September 1966. Faul from 9/09/66 on. I think that Paul's death on Sgt. Pepper may have been a hoax. If he died at all, it would seem to have been around 1970. I'll write more later. I'd admit this needs some work, because things don't add up, but they don't with what we've got either.
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 25, 2006 6:27:25 GMT
I agree. I don't think Paul was dead at the time he was relaced by 'Faul I' (the "American Dream"). I would think Paul left the Beatles sometime around August 1965. Faul I would have been in the period of August 1965 to September 1966. Faul from 9/09/66 on. I think that Paul's death on Sgt. Pepper may have been a hoax. If he died at all, it would seem to have been around 1970. I'll write more later. I'd admit this needs some work, because things don't add up, but they don't with what we've got either. Well, I am wondering if it is possible that James Paul began to leave around Christmas in 1965. I think he was present for the Beatles concert in Paris, wasn't it December of that '65? TO me, it is early 1966 that things seem to become murky. My idea-----I wonder if employing doubles was becomming a tactical and logistical neccessity after "Help"!, so that in the latter part of 1965, already stand-ins were prepared to cover a variety of circumstances. All in the interests of the boys' safety! It was getting kinda scary, we all know. We also know that from moment the press got hot on the "bigger than Jesus" statements, it was all pure hell. Four tough months. One wretched fiasco after another, Manilla, Budokan, Memphis, etc. By the Fall of '66, it was public knowledge that they had to do something to keep the boat afloat. The Phillipine debacle, the album burnings, John's embarrassing rebuttals, the explosion on stage in Memphis--all hot news items. But could the first troubles come months earlier? From a Beatle press conference in '66, I remember a denial to the question, "Do you use doubles", but, of course, it renders the use of having doubles ineffective if everybody knows about them. The whole purpose of having "doubles" is cancelled if the press and fans are "onto it" and trying like mad to outsmart the entourage! A diversion works best where there is no suspicion of it. Otherwise, the press divides into 2 or 3 search posse's, say, at a hotel or parade route, whatever, and interferes with the real Beatles trying to fulfil their obligations. September 1966 may have brought the biggest decisive event to the lads; but I suspect that the fulcrum of havoc had already begun to turn 8 or 9 months beforehand.
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Post by unrepentant on Feb 25, 2006 7:34:20 GMT
or maybe paul just got killed and replaced in sept. '66...
all these twists and turns in the JPM saga are leaving me....... perplexed.
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 25, 2006 8:12:31 GMT
or maybe paul just got killed and replaced in sept. '66... all these twists and turns in the JPM saga are leaving me....... perplexed. Oh, no, not TWO of us?!?!?!?!?!?
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Post by unrepentant on Feb 26, 2006 0:06:23 GMT
reminds me of an old, obscure song....
:-)
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Feb 27, 2006 5:45:21 GMT
It occurred to me that these words from "Cowgirl In the Sand" may reveal quite a bit:
"Hello woman of my dreams This is not the way it seems Purple words on a grey background To be a woman, and to be turned down"
The purple words on a grey background could be the inscription on a tombstone. If it's "not the way it seems", it could mean the deceased isn't really dead.
Perhaps there's a grave to be seen at Leso.
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