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Post by henry on Mar 15, 2007 22:43:43 GMT
Hello All, I just learned that Paul is dead this week, but once seeing it the only "clue" anyone ever needs is simply the videos and photos themselves. What's interesting though is when sharing this with others many can't see it, and will in essence state with certainty that the square they're looking at is in fact a circle. Amazing. Anyone else experience that? Here are some comparisons I just made, though it applies across the board with EVERY pre vs post 1967 photo or video in EVERY instance, so anyone can put these things together to show how it's not the same person.  and especially these two interviews...  1964 Interview www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4YN6ZEw7b4...ted&search=1967 Interview www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WzBj0jJPmU...ted&search=Check out the accent, voice, mannerisms, opposite hair part. Think about how in 1966 it would have been so easy to pull this off. People only see them very rarely on tv, no VCRs, no youtube, and they could go to the movie and watch Help! then wait years to watch a new one. Were this even attempted today I think it would fall apart quickly, though this is incredible that they actually pulled this one off with the public mind. |
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Post by jucom on Mar 16, 2007 12:16:24 GMT
Links do not open, unfortunately
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Post by henry on Mar 16, 2007 21:40:52 GMT
They can be found on youtube by their titles in the image.
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Post by Sun King™ on Mar 16, 2007 22:13:34 GMT
Welcome on board.  The more pictures are clear the more the truth is clear.... |
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Post by jucom on Mar 19, 2007 5:36:58 GMT
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Post by henry on Mar 27, 2007 5:28:41 GMT
Hello All, could you please help with something? I've been trying to put together a video that shows Paul chronologically from mid 1966 through till early 1967. I fully thought that Paul was replaced (and still do largely), though in doing this project which I hope to post online soon I've seen some things that really make me reevaluate what I think happened. I think I'm coming to that the possibility that maybe something really severe healthwise occurred, that he lost an incredible amount of weight, and that it came back slightly different (as well as losing his sense of humor and being more of a prick than before). I don't know, because he definitely looks and sounds a bit different but also looks the same in many ways. Thing is, I've seen some late 66 photos that I call transitional, where I think there are some traits of both. Also, is it true that "She's Leaving Home" was recorded around March of 1967? If so, that really rocks my thinking a bit, because I definitely hear in that the same Paul who sings Michelle. Let me know what you think about these shots of the mole on the left side of his neck as well. I'm rambling a bit - here are some photos... This is from Aug 27, 1966. Note the mole on his neck  Same day, and there is the same mole with one straight down below it lower on his neck.  Here is another one I believe from the same period where the mole on his neck can be seen also.  This is the LAST Paul photo I have, which is of him getting off the plane in San Francisco on Aug. 29, 1966.  All the next photos are of either someone different, or Paul going some sort of shitty metamorphosis - malaria, severe cocaine binge, I have no idea. The next ones I know of are from the Mal Evans home movies, where the dude looks VERY thin and unhealthy. I believe these are in October or early November 1966 in Africa   Then this Emi interview which I believe is Dec. 20, 1966, same guy from Africa photos.  Then there's this in January of 67, which is 100% Faul  Also on Jan 18, 1967 is this tv interview, Faul all the way  But then later in 67 I see the same neck moles. This one shows the larger one and the one straight down and lower on the neck in Sept, 67  And this one also shows the mole.  Without question something changed during September and October, but the mole thing, along with She's Leaving Home being from March supposedly. I'm honestly at a loss, cause he looks so different. I think he might have had some sort of near death health or drug thing, or was really replaced. Please let me know what you think, and if you have photos that fill in some gaps from Sept and Oct 1966 please share them. Thanks. |
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Post by Forum Manager on Mar 27, 2007 7:55:00 GMT
Without question something changed during September and October, but the mole thing, along with She's Leaving Home being from March supposedly... It's good thinking to be checking for birthmarks, but moles are not a very reliable indicator of identity. It only takes a few seconds to draw one or cover one with makeup. I would guess that a good tatoo artist could create a realistic imitation as well. Moles can be surgically removed, and they can even fall off or disappear on their own. They can change size, shape and color, and new ones can appear at any time. I wouldn't even throw out the possibility of two people with intertwining destinies having very similar patterns of moles or other birthmarks! But it's more likely that the moles on Billy's neck are nothing more than the mark of an eyeliner pencil. If they went to all that trouble to groom an impersonator, would they overlook ordinary moles? I think this guy is probably Dino Danelli, not Paul or Bill. I am looking forward to seeing your video  |
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Post by henry on Mar 27, 2007 23:48:05 GMT
I know what you're saying about the moles - it's just that one of them is so low on the neckline it makes me wonder, and also in looking at this one again... both have the same irregularity on their top left lip (their left). Amazing how they look so different, yet the same. Even if they're the same person, they're not the same person, if you know what I mean. Do any September 1966 photos exist? Anywhere? And is it true that lead vocals for She's Leaving Home were recorded in March of '67? Whatever happened I believe happened between Aug 27 '66 here... and the Africa trip here... which leaves Sept. '66 as the time when the change occurs, in my opinion. Do any photos of that month exist anywhere? |
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 28, 2007 12:03:12 GMT
That guy on the right doesn't even look like Bill/Faul, whatever we call him these days. Check out that bone structure, his cheek bones are so pronounced that I think we could have another double. |
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Post by Sun King™ on Mar 28, 2007 23:21:21 GMT
That guy on the left doesn't even look like Bill/Faul, whatever we call him these days. Check out that bone structure, his cheek bones are so pronounced that I think we could have another double. Oh well, both are called "Paul McCartney" And what about that:  It's funny: after 4 year I still HAVE to republish all the old comparisons... So for people being brainwahsed is being confortably numb.... |
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 29, 2007 10:02:44 GMT
Sorry I meant the guy on the right.
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Post by henry on Mar 29, 2007 22:20:43 GMT
Thanks for mentioning you meant "right" (lol, I was ready to split forever after that). Yes, they definitely look different. They're so different one can go to Corbis and just browse through all the thumbnails and instantly know which is which. I came here a 100% PIDer, and in trying to make this little amateur youtube style video I saw the moles and other (very) minor blemishes that look the same, and also the recording chronology (as I'm reading it) makes me think again (I understand how marks can be added/removed, how facial bones can't really). Yes, they really do look very different, and definitely act different. Also their group chemistry was shot to hell after late 66'. I honestly am trying to figure this out for myself, and am entirely willing to go either way and be wrong about previous comments. Right now I can believe they're different, but can also believe a massive illness or event could have permanently altered his face fat, muscles, and mental outlook, and wouldn't consider myself being brainwashed as I've gotten over the familiarity of having known Faul's face most of my life. Something dramatic happened and he clearly was replaced or went through something life changing during that 2 month period. Reminds me a little of those before and after meth photos on the web.
Again, anyone know of any Sept. 66 photos? Or is that something that just doesn't exist?
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Post by Sun King™ on Mar 30, 2007 21:41:41 GMT
Thanks for mentioning you meant "right" (lol, I was ready to split forever after that). Yes, they definitely look different. They're so different one can go to Corbis and just browse through all the thumbnails and instantly know which is which. I came here a 100% PIDer, and in trying to make this little amateur youtube style video I saw the moles and other (very) minor blemishes that look the same, and also the recording chronology (as I'm reading it) makes me think again (I understand how marks can be added/removed, how facial bones can't really). Yes, they really do look very different, and definitely act different. Also their group chemistry was shot to hell after late 66'. I honestly am trying to figure this out for myself, and am entirely willing to go either way and be wrong about previous comments. Right now I can believe they're different, but can also believe a massive illness or event could have permanently altered his face fat, muscles, and mental outlook, and wouldn't consider myself being brainwashed as I've gotten over the familiarity of having known Faul's face most of my life. Something dramatic happened and he clearly was replaced or went through something life changing during that 2 month period. Reminds me a little of those before and after meth photos on the web. Again, anyone know of any Sept. 66 photos? Or is that something that just doesn't exist? For datails please see ALL the thread that starts at: 60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1134864658&page=1 |
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Post by henry on Mar 30, 2007 23:54:00 GMT
Thanks! A photo from the Melody Makers award was exactly what I was looking for!
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 31, 2007 2:31:42 GMT
To be fair henry, it ain't a bad shout!
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Post by henry on Mar 31, 2007 3:55:09 GMT
To be fair henry, it ain't a bad shout! Could you please elaborate? I don't understand. |
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Post by Sun King™ on Mar 31, 2007 7:11:13 GMT
Thanks! A photo from the Melody Makers award was exactly what I was looking for! A note: Mark Lewinsohn did NO MENTION about that event (Melody Makers Award 1966) on his OFFICIAL Beatles' Chronology. After those photos there was ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER "MCCARTNEY" PHOTO until November 1966. THERE WAS NO OFFICIAL PHOTO ON OCTOBER 1966 |
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 31, 2007 23:56:55 GMT
To be fair henry, it ain't a bad shout! Could you please elaborate? I don't understand. Certainly my friend. Comparing Dino Danelli WIth that particular picture of JPM is rather interesting. I'm unconvinced by the actual theory but when comparing those two pictures the two men look "compatible" shall we say? |
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Post by Sun King™ on Apr 2, 2007 21:31:14 GMT
Thank You herny for posting that photo:  It's really VERY IMPORTANT!  That "guy" has the same FAULTY mouth left (his right) side .... as Bill ... The same "early" BIG nose .... All that reminds me a page of the Anthology Book:  Photo of "BRIAN" down from that airplane: WANTED! |
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Post by Perplexed on Apr 3, 2007 2:00:44 GMT
Could you please elaborate? I don't understand. Certainly my friend. Comparing Dino Danelli WIth that particular picture of JPM is rather interesting. I'm unconvinced by the actual theory but when comparing those two pictures the two men look "compatible" shall we say? I think with Dino it is an inadvertent resemblance. |
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Post by henry on Apr 4, 2007 19:56:12 GMT
Certainly my friend. Comparing Dino Danelli WIth that particular picture of JPM is rather interesting. I'm unconvinced by the actual theory but when comparing those two pictures the two men look "compatible" shall we say? I think with Dino it is an inadvertent resemblance. Doc, yeah, I tend to agree though don't totally dismiss the idea. Sun King, do you know the exact date of this photo of yours? Is it really 1967 sometime? Thanks - great stuff you brought together! |
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Post by Sun King™ on Apr 5, 2007 0:28:18 GMT
I think with Dino it is an inadvertent resemblance. Doc, yeah, I tend to agree though don't totally dismiss the idea. Sun King, do you know the exact date of this photo of yours? Is it really 1967 sometime? Thanks - great stuff you brought together! Ask Chris Walter the author of that photo on www.photofeatures.comIt was taken on 1967 after Sgt. Pepper presentation and before Magical Mystery Tour |
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Post by jude on Apr 5, 2007 8:07:53 GMT
There's only one problem with the "Dino at Melody Maker" idea that I can see, and that is that at an award ceremony there is usually an acceptance speech. It would have been unusual for the Beatles not to give one, and perhaps even more unusual for Ringo to give it while Paul just stands there smiling, not saying a single word to the press even.
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Post by Sun King™ on Apr 5, 2007 18:07:21 GMT
There's only one problem with the "Dino at Melody Maker" idea that I can see, and that is that at an award ceremony there is usually an acceptance speech. It would have been unusual for the Beatles not to give one, and perhaps even more unusual for Ringo to give it while Paul just stands there smiling, not saying a single word to the press even. Good note, Jude. Looking at last photos published here now I see that it was Billy who went out the airplane in the morning of August 29th. Dino wasn't ready yet. But it was Dino who performed the concert in the night of the same day and it was Dino too who returned back London on August 31th  |
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Post by jucom on Apr 9, 2007 11:26:01 GMT
Welcome on board. The more pictures are clear the more the truth is clear.... Sun King, where did you get the photo on the right? When was it taken in your opinion (I mean, what year) and who it is? Is it James Paul (this man by no means looks like Faul to me)? |
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