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Post by McGarrett-Five-0 on May 16, 2005 23:06:45 GMT
I have seen this picture of John Lennon before. It was taken by someone who was paid by the national Inquirer at the time.
I have worked at a funeral home and have seen autopsies. It appears from the picture that an autopsy was started but then stopped. As was mentioned, they make a cut from ear to ear across the top of the head and then literally pull the face down to get at the scull. It looks to me, like that was done, and then his face was hastily put back on.
But it doesn’t make lot of sense, because no ME would leave a body in the condition. It would be sewed back up and the face attached properly. So the condition of his face is puzzling. The body is still in the body bag so it's doubtful he had ever been prepped so nothing would have been done.
It's very strange!
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Post by plastic paul on May 17, 2005 0:18:22 GMT
The picture is most disturbing, i remember seeing it in a newspaper and feeling sick to the stomach, however i dont have a problem with it being posted because(to people who havent previously seen it) they can uderstand what is meant by "no ear" etc. We show examples of height differences, non existent parts of noses etc so why not this?
PS. Did someone mention a Paul death pic?
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on May 17, 2005 2:21:21 GMT
that picture doesnt disturb me. But once I wandered onto a site about giving fake parts to people who have ripped off there ears, eyes, nostrils, etc. That was disturbing
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Post by abbey on May 19, 2005 19:25:00 GMT
Thank all of you for the support! I don't think that picture was nearly as bad as the one of Paul's corpse. We cannot learn and advance if we don't want to see and observe. There is a very obvious abnormality with the side of his head.
When I get my scanner I will scan a picture of John lying down in a similar pose. It is from one of his first two singular albums and then you can compare the two....if I can re-post the death picture as a comparison study.
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Post by defhermit on May 19, 2005 21:13:48 GMT
It doesn't offend me (very little does)... but I can understand if it is upsetting to some people.
If people REALLY get upset enough, you could only put questionable images in a new thread with some kind of warning in the thread title, and then just point to the new thread in the old thread that you were GOING to post it into.
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Post by gracemer on May 19, 2005 22:35:48 GMT
So many people find so much to be offended about there'd be warning signs on most threads. ;D If there were to be a disclaimer or warning, it should be on the home page or the registration page. Then people would know before they even clicked on their first topic.
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Post by Michelle66 on May 20, 2005 21:45:01 GMT
img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/gracemer/bigjohnglasses.jpg[/img]In the picture of John's corpse I can't see his right ear, while in the picture of his glasses the blood is on the left side. Shouldn't it be on the right one if he was shot there? Another question: where was he really shot? His head, his body? Anyone knows? I thought it was his chest, so why did they need to make an autopsy at his head?
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Post by plastic paul on May 20, 2005 22:33:55 GMT
Sorry to go back but is the "dead paul" pic referred to, the one where he is looking up with scars, black eye etc supposedly "post scooter accident"?
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Post by McGarrett-Five-0 on May 21, 2005 0:59:12 GMT
Perhaps the photo was flipped. John Lennon was shot four times in the back by Mark Chapman who had asked the former Beatle for his autograph only hours before he laid in wait and killed him. The world's most famous rock star, lay semiconscious, hemorrhaging from four flat-tipped bullets blasted into his back. His wife Yoko Ono held his head in her arms and screamed. Play BBC VideoBBC News John Lennon Shot Dead by Peter Hobday: news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/cta/events2000/lennon/chapman06.ramThe entrance where Lennon was shot. www.craigr.com/images/nycdakotaentrance.jpg [/img]
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Post by byrdsmaniac on May 21, 2005 1:35:25 GMT
Sorry to go back but is the "dead paul" pic referred to, the one where he is looking up with scars, black eye etc supposedly "post scooter accident"? No, Plastic Paul. There is an image from the "Free as a bird" video (if I'm not mistaken) of what Paul's face is supposed to have looked like when he was found.* It is reflected off an automobile window. It is a source of contention for regulars to this site; some saying it's created by a reflection of foliage and distant farm houses, others insisting it's the real deal. (I'm with the first group.) It can be seen on page 9 of the "Paul is found where?" thread in the GENERAL section in Dezombificator's post. (It's the small, black and white square picture under the MMT cartoon of Paul standing on a hill with his arms outstretched.) *This based on assumption Paul's body found near a hill after he had wandered about disoriented, and died.
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Post by plastic paul on May 21, 2005 1:40:43 GMT
Of course, sorry, that was rather idiotic of me, now i feel like a d*ckhead. PS why isn't there a "major embarrassment factor smiley" on here! ;D
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Post by byrdsmaniac on May 21, 2005 1:49:41 GMT
Relax, we've all embarassed ourselves here.
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Post by plastic paul on May 21, 2005 23:47:06 GMT
Thanks byrds for your words of comfort, whether or not the top dogs regard me or not , i feel i am one of the people who try my hardest to keep posting to encourage potential findings and if i disagree with something i try to get them to prove me wrong with further evidence so lets all keep it coming, we've got a lot of stuff here so lets keep plugging away.
ok that was unrelated but i was reaffirming myself i suppose, now i have i give you further information.
Ok it's a bit late seeing as we have evidence saying john wasn't shot in the head, but to tie in with michelle's question, i am led to believe (films may have misled me here) if, in johns case, you are shot in the head on the right, it may "ruin" the side of the face, at the point of entry, but where the bullet exits on the other side is where the blood etc. comes out.
Is this correct gun experts? It may also depend on calibre
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Post by TotalInformation on May 22, 2005 2:23:22 GMT
Exit wounds are bigger than entry wounds.
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Post by defhermit on May 22, 2005 17:25:13 GMT
Thanks byrds for your words of comfort, whether or not the top dogs regard me or not , i feel i am one of the people who try my hardest to keep posting to encourage potential findings and if i disagree with something i try to get them to prove me wrong with further evidence so lets all keep it coming, we've got a lot of stuff here so lets keep plugging away. ok that was unrelated but i was reaffirming myself i suppose, now i have i give you further information. Ok it's a bit late seeing as we have evidence saying john wasn't shot in the head, but to tie in with michelle's question, i am led to believe (films may have misled me here) if, in johns case, you are shot in the head on the right, it may "ruin" the side of the face, at the point of entry, but where the bullet exits on the other side is where the blood etc. comes out. Is this correct gun experts? It may also depend on calibre I don't remember whose account of the shooting it was, but I thought that after being shot John basically stumbled his way INTO the hotel and collapsed in front o f the reception desk. If this is true it's highly unlikely that he was shot in the head as he probably would have collapsed immediately.
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Post by abbey on May 22, 2005 21:25:16 GMT
Usually there were three or four people supposed to be at different areas in the lobby and yet they were all gone, except one, and I belieive he was in the back and came forward conveniently when he heard the ruckus. Now isn't that strange?
John was shot in the shoulder from the back, it spun him around and he was shot a second time, the third bullet missed and the fourth richoted around in his body and was the killing one as it nicked his aorta and his windpipe.....not able to do a trach because the windpipe or esophagus was severely damaged.
Yoko didn't hold him and scream. In fact, no one quite knows where Yoko was, even though she supposedly walked in beside him. She didn't scream, she didn't throw anything at the gunman, she did NOTHING!!! Also if she were beside him, why didn't the stray bullet hit her?
I think Chapman was nothing more than a convenient patsy and the the fatal shot was done by Yoko. She wanted John dead as he was starting to "wake" up from the drug haze he's been in for years. And she couldn't have him realize he'd been enticed to sign away any inheritance to Julian.
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Post by TotalInformation on May 22, 2005 23:52:54 GMT
Yoko wasn't the real gunman. It was the doorman, Jose Perdomo, one of Sir GHWB's CIA Cubans.
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Post by TPIMaster on May 23, 2005 17:37:02 GMT
Yoko wasn't the real gunman. It was the doorman, Jose Perdomo, one of Sir GHWB's CIA Cubans. If you say it was the doorman, why does everybody claim that Chapman did it... And there were lots of witnesses, weren't there?
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Post by cavendish on May 23, 2005 20:17:44 GMT
It doesn't matter how many bullets were fired & by whom. Yoko fired the fatal bullet that killed John. She planned it that way. It was all a part of the Satanic Ritual that gave her control over John & everything that is his. God only knows what she did with that missing ear
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Post by abbey on May 28, 2005 22:19:51 GMT
The picture of John from the CD "Imagine" where he is laying down as a comparison to the corpse picture.
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Post by TPIMaster on Aug 6, 2005 21:13:59 GMT
More "Yoko is evil incarnate"
As I said in the "Mother" topic at the Brian section, I was watching the Lennon Legend DVD.
There I was, listening to/watching Working Class Here (Anthology Version)
"But first you must learn how to smile when you kill" and while John sings this you see a crying Yoko...
And SMA, they made that comparison on the Lennon Legend DVD.
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Post by beatled on Aug 7, 2005 17:45:58 GMT
I know no one likes to look at that picture, but I averted my eyes long enough to notice that there's something seriously wrong there..
That's either the worst Photoshop cut and paste I've ever seen, or they put a John Lennon mask on another body?? Cmon, it's pretty obvious! (I suspect the former of course)
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Post by TPIMaster on Aug 7, 2005 18:21:53 GMT
Here's some pics from the Lennon Legend DVD (from the clip of Woman): As we see the Imagine pic, it slowly fades out into the corpse picture. (Not a good comparison though cause of the angle difference.) (Sorry, but it was black and white in the clip) Note that there is way more hair in the black and white picture...
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Post by plastic paul on Aug 7, 2005 23:28:57 GMT
I dont wish to make light of this but it rather reminds me of Data the android from Star Trek The Next Generation.
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Post by abbey on Sept 25, 2005 23:30:47 GMT
And still no ear!
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