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Post by Elidor on Sept 21, 2003 15:28:52 GMT
Can anyone remember what John and Goerge refer to Paul as during the part of the film where they're slagging Macca off for being at number 1 in Sweden, or something?. If it's "Beatle Bill" I'd be more prepared to be convinced.
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Post by TheWatusi on Sept 21, 2003 16:10:20 GMT
oh, i do hope someone finds this. it would be convincing if they called him beatle bill.
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Post by pennylane on Sept 21, 2003 17:21:20 GMT
i have that film, i will have to find it and watch it again...
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Post by eyesbleed on Sept 21, 2003 19:10:59 GMT
My vcr reads 1:11 into the movie when George is eating with John & Yoko & some others. John sez "....and here's a Beatle-wife fixing the tea for one of the Fab-Four-ex-beatles" George interrupts.....'Fab-THREE" John giggles... "Fab-Three, chuckle" George...."I see Beatle-Bill's been making a pig of himself" John...."you see much of The Beatles these days?" George...'I saw Beatle-ED"..... with the imphasis on the changed name ED. John..."How was he?" George...."He's alright, but he was just going off on a tour" John...."Beatle-Ed's not doing so well these days is he. Beatle-George?" George...."He's #5 in Sweden." John...."Sweden, I see" gives the camera a big WINK.
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Post by eyesbleed on Sept 21, 2003 19:22:43 GMT
The very next scene is John & George in the studio recording "How Do You Sleep at Night?"
"Those freaks was right when they said; you was dead. The one mistake you made was in your head"
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Post by SunKing on Sept 21, 2003 20:12:57 GMT
eyesbleed : [glow=red,2,300]MASTERPIECE![/glow] This forum was born ONLY FOR THIS KIND OF POST. Thank You!
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Post by TheWatusi on Sept 21, 2003 20:23:07 GMT
:oI Can Not Agree With Sunking More!!! BRILLIANT Thanks, eyesbleed!!
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Post by MrMustard on Sept 22, 2003 8:19:30 GMT
I have to agree too! Great work eyesbleed! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Sept 22, 2003 13:38:35 GMT
If anyone has never seen the 'IMAGINE' movie, please do. Be forewarned; it will make you very sad, and you might even cry when it dawns on you fully how senseless and terrible it was to take someone like John away from his family, and the vast world that loved him. The most touching part for me was when the dirty, starving hippie was found hiding in the bushes of the Ascot estate. John himself goes out and talks soothingly to the guy, telling him gently that even he, John Lennon, doesn't have all the answers to life's questions. John then invites the poor guy inside, and has Marnie prepare him a hot breakfast. That scene was amazing. It spoke volumes about the true humanity of John. There is also a part (I think) where John is talking about the fear of getting assassinated......
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Sept 22, 2003 13:42:41 GMT
Hey Watusi- Perhaps the song BUNGALOW BILL is in reference to Bill Sheppard also? There is a story of how Faul came to LA in 1968 or so, and rented a huge bungalow...and had one woman esconced in one side of the place, and another woman in the other bedroom...the waiter said how all weekend, faul went back and forth from one bedroom to the other! Then, LINDA showed up frm NYC and Faul kicked both the 'bedroom women' out a.s.a.p. Bungalow Bill.... ?
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Post by Darkhorse on Sept 22, 2003 14:44:52 GMT
Bungalow Bill is about a tiger hunter in the 1800's. Do you wanna know what his name was? William Sheppard.
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Sept 22, 2003 16:05:43 GMT
that answers --and confirms--my question re: bungalow bill.
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Post by MotherNaureSon on Sept 22, 2003 16:19:03 GMT
One again I must disagree. Well, it could be written for that, but John said that it was written for a guy in the India camp.
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Post by Darkhorse on Sept 22, 2003 16:46:50 GMT
MNS, it's more than a coincidence! ;D
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Post by Eggman on Sept 22, 2003 17:42:24 GMT
Yeah!!!! It's a GREAT coincidence!!!!
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Post by Eggman on Sept 22, 2003 17:44:23 GMT
The most touching part for me was when the dirty, starving hippie was found hiding in the bushes of the Ascot estate. John himself goes out and talks soothingly to the guy, telling him gently that even he, John Lennon, doesn't have all the answers to life's questions. John then invites the poor guy inside, and has Marnie prepare him a hot breakfast. That scene was amazing. It spoke volumes about the true humanity of John. There is also a part (I think) where John is talking about the fear of getting assassinated...... Agree 100% Ian!!!! The most incredible part of the movie!!!!
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Post by Elidor on Sept 22, 2003 20:56:42 GMT
eyesbleed : [glow=red,2,300]MASTERPIECE![/glow] This forum was born ONLY FOR THIS KIND OF POST. Thank You! Hey! It would have been nice to get some credit for this, given that it was my (admittedly vague) memory that produced this gem. Still, if nothing else, I shold have at least established my credentials as a genuinely open minded skeptic. I'm still not convinced though. Anyway, it's old news, but I thought some of you might be interested in this: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3024327.stm
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Sept 22, 2003 23:22:20 GMT
MNS- ...and WHAT were the Beatles doing at camp, in India? Nothing less than trying to get Paul's soul into BILL'S body!
Also, John has been known to DANCE AROUND topics and deeper meanings. He spent half of the 1980 Playboy interview saying "I didn't mean this, I didn't mean that..it was gobblygook..."
So one has to develop a gut feeling as to when Lennon put the smoke screen up, and to what purpose...
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Post by eyesbleed on Sept 22, 2003 23:22:47 GMT
Hey! It would have been nice to get some credit for this, given that it was my (admittedly vague) memory that produced this gem. And boy are we glad you remembered that! That is most definately a huge gem of a find.
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Post by MrMustard on Sept 23, 2003 1:16:31 GMT
I really have to see this film....
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 23, 2003 4:59:25 GMT
And He said unto them " When I was hungry, you fed me. When I was cold, you clothed me. When I was thirsty, you gave me drink."
And John said, " When did I feed you? And when did I clothe you? And when did I give you drink?"
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Post by MrMustard on Sept 23, 2003 5:26:46 GMT
lol ;D
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Post by AlexTheLrg on Sept 27, 2003 10:23:29 GMT
"The most touching part for me was when the dirty, starving hippie was found hiding in the bushes of the Ascot estate. John himself goes out and talks soothingly to the guy, telling him gently that even he, John Lennon, doesn't have all the answers to life's questions. John then invites the poor guy inside, and has Marnie prepare him a hot breakfast. That scene was amazing. It spoke volumes about the true humanity of John. " Anyone ever see John and Yoko's 1971(I think) appearance on "The Mike Douglas Show"? That same hippie is picked to stand up and ask John a question during a question and answer session. Coincidence? Could the "heartwarming" scene in Imagine: John Lennon been staged? Maybe Lennon felt sorry for the guy and made him a flunky.
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Post by AlexTheLrg on Sept 27, 2003 15:18:40 GMT
Even funnier than that was the look on Chuck Berry's face when Yoko started her screeching during "Memphis, Tennessee"
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Sept 28, 2003 5:27:54 GMT
...And, how can you prove this beyond all doubt? Perhaps just another bushy-haired hippie...there were quite a few of them around in those days, you might have heard.
I don't think the guy on Mike Douglas was the same hippie from Ascot in the garden. That is an unsubstantiated stretch, even for this site.
By the way, I was young enough to SEE John & Yoko co-host Mike Douglas the entire week as it happened. They were magical and charming and above all open and honest. Lennon would not STAGE the event which ended up in 'Imagine;' he had more important things to do, like TRYING TO STOP THE WAR IN VIET NAM.
Proof would have to be conclusive: both frames of the guy posted here; one from Mike Douglas show, one from the Imagine film. Walk the talk.
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