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Post by abbey on May 23, 2004 21:21:16 GMT
Wow, SunKing! I haven't seen the back of that album since the early '70s when I was a teenager. It really brings back memories. I can remember looking at those lyrics and wondering "What happened to the Beatles?" The previously happy group of musicians were singing such sad and strange songs. Also, it seemed as if they were writing lyrics for themselves; ie, that they had no concern for whether you or I could make sense of them. The song "Don't Pass Me By" is an example. Today it makes sense; I suppose Ringo was singing about McCartney. George Harrison's songs seemed especially pointless and/or depressing. But this 60if website gives them meaning. I suppose Harrison's guitar was gently weeping because McCartney was dead. And his song about the little piggies and the bigger piggies might be about the common people and their abuse by their masters. He seems frustrated or disgusted in this song. The Birthday song also seemed peculiar to me as a teenager. The music seemed happy, but not the lyrics. It seemed to me that the person singing the song was not really happy that it was his birthday. Now I wonder if it was Faul singing about the awkwardness of celebrating Paul's birthday. It would translate to, You say it's Paul McCartney's birthday...
Oh, that is my birthday, too, now that I'm Paul.
Happy birthday to you, Paul.
And happy birthday, to me too, yeah.
What a happy birthday I'm having...yeah...The song "Why don't we do it in the road" seemed to me to be a fragment of a song that they put on the record just to fill space. I was thinking the Beatles had become so conceited that they didn't bother trying to write songs. Also, I must have spent hours wondering what exactly they wanted to do in the road. As a teenager, all I could think of it was maybe they were referring to sex. Today I would summarize the issue of sad lyrics as: 1) Their music changed suddenly, which is evidence that something abruptly happened in their lives. 2) The music became sad and bizarre, which is evidence that the abrupt change make them sad, frustrated, disgusted, and/or angry. 3) The change in their music was permanent, which is a sign that the event was something they never recovered from. What sort of event could have such a profound effect on a group of musicians? Other than the explantion we find on 60if? This web site is providing answers to questions I have had for a long, long time. You are right. Their music drastically changed after Paul died. I noticed a lot of facial, etc., differences when I really started looking at the post 1966 photos of "Paul". Then I found this fantastic forum and my questions were answered. The White Album seems to be a form of eulogy to Paul. It is very sad when you realize what they are referring to. George does say "Paul" over and over in "My Guitar Gently Weeps". There are so many references to what happened to Paul and how it affected each of them. To me though it is funny that only Ringo is still alive and well (apparently). This is strange since all the original members of the Beatles are now dead. Remember Ringo was added when George Martin didn't think Pete Best was a good enought drummer. Stay tuned to 60IF and most of you questions (if not all) will be answered. All we really want is for Bill to admit his life has been a lie, but let's not hold our collective breaths. |
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Post by EricHufschmid on May 24, 2004 7:22:20 GMT
on May 23rd, 2004, ABBEY wrote:
Remember Ringo was added when George Martin didn't think Pete Best was a good enought drummer.
I remember a show on television many years ago about the Beatles, and the show claimed Ringo was chosen as a drummer because the other Beatles liked him better, even though he was not as good of a drummer as Pete. Which is correct?
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Post by SunKing on May 24, 2004 8:32:57 GMT
Ringo was a great friend of both James Paul McCartney and Brian Epstein.
So why that chosen.
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Post by abbey on May 24, 2004 14:09:34 GMT
Actually, I think it was a little of both. They knew Ringo and would have like to bring him into them. It was cinched was George Martin didn't think Pete's drumming was good enough
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Post by abbey on May 25, 2004 23:08:21 GMT
Dusting the cobwebs from my memory bank I seem to remember that they all knew Ringo. They often played some of the same events. Ringo was with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes. He had even subbed a few times when they needed a drummer, so the boys knew he was good.
When auditioned for George Martin, George didn't like Pete's drumming. Asked the guys about drummers and Ringo's name came up. Brian was left to do the dirtywork of telling Pete he was out and Ringo was in.
The boys didn't have the nerve to tell Pete themselves.
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Post by SunKing on Jun 2, 2004 11:27:34 GMT
 Who are those? Billy "Sheep ears" and Jane? From: WHITE ALBUM POSTER FRONTnew "full sliced" release Choose your picture to publish! |
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Post by SunKing on Jun 2, 2004 11:30:04 GMT
      All the Lennon/McCartney songs signed with a Christian Cross... from: WHITE ALBUM POSTER REARnew "full sliced" release Choose your picture to publish! |
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Post by abbey on Jun 2, 2004 22:07:28 GMT
Who are those? Billy "Sheep ears" and Jane? From: WHITE ALBUM POSTER FRONTnew "full sliced" release Choose your picture to publish! As I understand it, it was John's drawing of him and ape girl.....er I mean Yoko. |
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Post by SunKing on Jun 3, 2004 8:19:57 GMT
As I understand it, it was John's drawing of him and ape girl.....er I mean Yoko.  John's self portrait. ...and that woman is so gorgeous ....no....it's NOT that monkey... |
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Post by abbey on Jun 6, 2004 5:14:51 GMT
It is definitely John and his Monkey.....now a picture of Mai would be worth looking at ;D
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Post by SunKing on Jun 6, 2004 15:50:59 GMT
...sorry...it is Bill "Sheep ears" with Jane....
John was very thin at that time........and "the Monkey" were dark haired and very thin her too.....
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Post by abbey on Jun 6, 2004 19:47:38 GMT
I swear John stated somewhere that it was his drawing of Yoko and him. Even if they were thin then, John's drawings are not necessarily depicting their true shape.
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Post by SunKing on Jun 16, 2004 10:25:51 GMT
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Post by zoltron on Jun 20, 2004 19:33:09 GMT
Months ago, I posted that I have that original poster & the 8 x 10 glossies, Sgt. Pepper's with the cardboard cut-outs, Magical Mystery Tour with the booklet inside the album cover.
I've got all Beatles' 1st releases from 'Meet The Beatles' to 'Abbey Road' [missing 'Let It Be']...but any clues you need looked up, I've got all of 'em.
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Post by SunKing on Jun 20, 2004 20:31:31 GMT
Months ago, I posted that I have that original poster & the 8 x 10 glossies, Sgt. Pepper's with the cardboard cut-outs, Magical Mystery Tour with the booklet inside the album cover. I've got all Beatles' 1st releases from 'Meet The Beatles' to 'Abbey Road' [missing 'Let It Be']...but any clues you need looked up, I've got all of 'em. Perfect! Have you a scanner too? |
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Post by zoltron on Jun 20, 2004 20:45:13 GMT
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Post by Hamlet on Aug 31, 2004 16:22:34 GMT
 Who is he?  ?? |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Aug 31, 2004 16:37:58 GMT
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Post by Hamlet on Sept 10, 2004 16:36:17 GMT
Who is he? ?? Still asking, who is he? |
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Post by PaulBearer on Sept 10, 2004 16:41:21 GMT
The picture doesn't come up, sorry.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 10, 2004 19:46:06 GMT
Still asking, who is he?  Hamlet..... that's John Lennon |
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