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Post by pennylane on Aug 21, 2003 22:08:05 GMT
i agree i would much rather have john here with us or at the very least more people like him....
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Post by Forum Manager on Aug 22, 2003 5:50:04 GMT
i wish i was alive when john was
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Aug 22, 2003 13:42:17 GMT
In reply to TotalInformation's response to my Lennon assassination posting, I am well aware of the whole Trilateral Commission swamp, and the members therein. But, an apple isn't an orange and with different politicians you do indeed get different administrations and mindsets, and levels of priorities, even though they may sit at the same Big Table.
Carter was defeated in the Nov. 1980 presidential election. My mode of thinking is that from Nov. to January, until Reagan officially took office, Carter was a lame duck, historically meaning he by virtue of his defeat wielded little power, especially within the intelligence communities. Carter's administration were busy packing their cardboard moving boxes and Reagan's camp was rubbing their hands with anticipation of taking the reins.
It is also worth noting that Reagan's VP was ex-CIA Director Bush, who mastered at projecting the 'mamby-pamby' public wimp image while being involved in a lifetime of unsavory clandestine activity, 11/22/63 being the main one which springs to mind. Ever heard of the Alpha 66 team?
As if this were not all enough for our NYC Beatle to contend with, lest we forget ex-president Nixon was still out there, biding his time and in all his spook paranoiac glory, no doubt harboring real hatred for John Lennon. After all, it is historically accepted nowadays that John, through all his multi-media talents, is one of those credited for helping end the Vietnam war.
I note your comment concerning the simplistic "right vs. left" slant, but that, in my opinion, accounts for much in this world (turn on FoxNews channel right now). Of course there are more layers and levels to the enigma of all the assassinations in our lifetimes, but it all does boil down to basic "good vs. evil".
Oftentimes, good ol' simple intense dislike for an individual can result in their violent removal (again, see current events). The masses loved Lennon, as evidenced by the unprescedented shock and mourning which accompanied his death. The bare truth of the matter is, he was perceived to be a politically-charged pain in the ass to the conservatives, and in his radical heyday, had earned many hardboiled enemies.
I consider it an accurate statement that John Lennon was one of the most influential figures of our times, he held more sway than any socio/political or even religious public figure that I can think of.
Also, the chance is that there is even MORE to all this than we know or could speculate upon at this time. Power to the People! -ian
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 25, 2003 9:02:21 GMT
You're totally right about Poppy Bush of course. He was on the ground in Dallas in 63.
One has to be careful about fingering Reagan, however -- because CIA-Bush was involved in that attempted hit as well as Lennon's, and the number of similitaries in the crimes only lends credence to Sean Lennon's thesis about his father's death.
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Post by zeleny on Aug 29, 2003 1:23:11 GMT
It really makes me sick, all of these conspiracies coming together. Paul McCartney, John Lennon, Iran-Contra and Bill Casey(MK-Ultra)'s death after brain cancer surgery(?), Bill McFarlane's "suicide" attempt, Ronald Reagan's assasination attempt, Sharon Tate, possibly Janice Joplin's death.
The FreeMasons, Illuminati, Skull and Bones... I'm sure there are more I've never even heard of.
I don't think any of us are safe or have any control over our lives.
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Aug 29, 2003 23:11:12 GMT
Your last sentence says it all, Zelaney.
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Post by MrMustard on Sept 10, 2003 10:44:20 GMT
Is it just me, or does John Lennon's song 'If I Fell' make you want to cry? It makes me want to cry every time I hear it...
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Post by TotalInformation on Nov 15, 2003 23:58:45 GMT
Someone was asking about Lennon's murder, so I'm bumping this thread for their edification.
Notice that it was a parallel operation to the hit on Reagan a few months later in which the Bush family is heavily implicated.
Spookdaddy G H W Bush is implicated in the murder of John Lennon, who was threatening to blow the whistle on Illuminati machinations concerning The Beatles and the murder of James Paul McCartney.
That's the way it is and no amount of bitching, thread-locking or password-protecting will change that.
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Post by gracemer on Dec 3, 2003 0:43:09 GMT
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Post by Scatterdome on Dec 6, 2003 4:36:24 GMT
Catcher is said to have been used during the mind-control programming so that certain passages would trigger certain actions. I don't think they use Catcher anymore . . . the film "The Matrix" seems to be the latest tool. (cf "sniper' Malvo) It wouldn’t surprise me if that’s the new one. That movie provides such a good analogy to the real Illuminati/New World Order situation that the author who I consider the best communicator of that subject, David Icke, used the analogy throughout one of his recent books and actually titled it Children Of The Matrix, complete with corresponding cover art, as a clever way to get more people to notice the book. So if the Illuminati have made The Matrix the new “Catcher,” what a perfect way to get the brainwashed to stereotype any hard-core Matrix fan, or even any David Icke reader, as a scary “lone nut…” The people who are most on to the truth would become the shadiest people on their block, as far as their more “plugged in” neighbors who have opted for the “blue pill” are concerned. For example: after reading this thread, I was considering going down to the place where I work to get my employee discount on a copy of Catcher In The Rye to read it to see if it was chosen for similar reasons as The Matrix would be, as I had never read it. Then I considered the potential social consequences of buying it there, where there is a large workforce inevitably containing some firmly “plugged in” coworkers. It would not be worth the potential hassle; I have already drastically toned down any conspiracy talk at work to a minimum due to the annoying consequences I’ve already experienced. I have now decided to get the book at another store. On the surface, the novel deals with a young man's "rite of passage" toward adulthood, during which he realizes the phoniness and duplicity of the adult world.." I can’t wait to read it! Gee, I wonder why the Illuminati would want people to negatively stereotype folks who happen to enjoy a book that, for many of those who end up reading it, is an effective catalyst to realizing how phony the "adult" world is… This Catcher in the Rye thing - it's a bit like a code or a stamp they sometimes use to telegraph to those in the know that they are behind this, their trademark as it were. A bit like how freemasons are obssessed with the number 13 and you can often see that appearing as a sign of their handiwork. The Freemasons, whose highest-ranking members form the largest and most blatant branch of the Illuminati, are even more obsessed with the number 33. And the Illuminati have already put their trademark “two birds with one stone” symbolic stamp on the murder of John Lennon, confirming that they pulled the strings, whether it was Chapman or, as TotalInformation speculates, someone else. Stu Sutcliffe announced he was leaving the Beatles on December 9, 1960; John Lennon was shot on December 8, 1980 and it was announced in the newspapers on December 9, 1980. Stu Sutcliffe died on April 10, 1962; Illuminati-tool Faul announced he was leaving the Beatles on April 10, 1970. To demonstrate that this could mean that the Illuminati, by choosing the dates of Faul’s announcement and John’s assassination to correspond to Stu Sutcliffe, were basically displaying that they control Faul and that they killed John, I posted the following on the thread titled “The Walrus and the Circle Of Death:” Unless these are both 1-in-365 coincidences, I have an explanation: John’s assassin was not a “lone gunman” working alone, but instead a classic mind-programmed Illuminati assassin sent to kill him on that precise day because it was the 20th anniversary of Stu Sutcliffe leaving the Beatles, true to the historical pattern of the Illuminati’s obsession with ritual symbolism. Likewise, Faul had joined an Illuminati-affiliated secret society (probably the Rosicrucian branch of the Freemasons) by 1970, and chose to announce that he was leaving the group on April 10,1970 because his Illuminati masters instructed him to announce it on that specific date, because it was the 8th anniversary of Stu Sutcliffe’s death. True to form, the Illuminati, rather than trying to hide their involvement with John Lennon’s death and the Beatles’ breakup, have proudly displayed their signature in both events (12/8/80 and 4/10/70) in such a way that we would not only know the events were caused by them, but also know the two events were symbolically linked together by them. For those who haven’t read it yet, I have a theory about the Faul issue that heavily factors in the Illuminati’s interference with the Beatles. This new information about Lennon’s death and Faul’s announcement happens to fit perfectly into my theory. Please check it out at this link: 60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=paul&action=display&thread=1063219993If you are intrigued, I would suggest clicking on my username to see some other threads where I’ve posted clues I have found that back up my theory. The Illuminati have a fixation with dates and tend to reuse the same date over and over again.. Here is the link to the whole thread where I originally posted this, “The Walrus and the Circle Of Death.” 60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=document&thread=1059772461&start=15“I don't know why nobody told you how to unfold your love I don't know how someone controlled you They bought and sold you.
I don't know how you were diverted You were perverted too I don't know how you were inverted No one alerted you.”-- George to Faul, 1968. (These are the choruses from ”While My Guitar Gently Weeps")
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Dec 25, 2003 19:01:36 GMT
I completely agree; the lyrics are about Faul. I also feel "I,Me,Mine" refers to Faul also.
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Post by PaulBearer on Aug 19, 2004 4:00:12 GMT
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Post by LUCY on Aug 19, 2004 4:16:24 GMT
I'm reading it now..........I'm slowly grasping the BIG pix. Lennon went thru hell.
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