Real Paul in 1980

[romanruins]

I believe the real Paul is in the 1980 Paul McCartney Music Video "Coming Up". He is the far Left Guitar player without make-up! I think He, and Billy/Tara wrote the song, and the others from the Wings period until now. People can make up their own mind about who the singer in the "Coming Up" video is. There are a lot of facial close-ups during the song.

In the Magical Mystery Tour at the end of the Beach scene Billy and the Midget are WORKING pushing a TANDEM Bicycle thru the sand after the Midget's (MG Midget sports car) recovery. That scene breaks up a Wake like interlude on the Bus that is marking the end of the real Paul's public, and stage life. The 60 minute Movie was filmed from September 11, thru the 25th, 1967. It was " Paul McCartney's" idea, and he was the main script writer by the official Apple History of the Movie. If its about Paul being dead why was John smiling at the end of "Your Mother Would Know", and who was he looking at off screen as he collapses into Fauls/Billy's arms there at the End of the Movie?

Listen to the Wings song Band on The Run.
I believe "My Ever Present Past" from the "Memory Almost Full" DVD released in 2007 was written by the corporal, original Paul McCartney as an explanation of His reasoning for ending His public role. At the End of the Musical Video Bill is kneeling, like at a grave site in contemplation, and maybe prayer.

Cheers

[daveyo]

Hi Roman

Can you provide me some means to look into all this, as to where I am at, it is impossible for me to obtain this material. If you can send me a private message and perhaps maybe you can send me some zipped up files so I can at least look and read and maybe view those videos that you speak of.

let me know

Daveyo

[romanruins]

Hello Daveyo,

My computer (a Apple using Safari) tells me this site, and board won't let me bring over video's from Youtube or even file pictures even thou Paul Bear for one has done it. (Copy Rights)
That leaves going to Youtube and putting the following in the Search Box;
A.) Paul McCartney-Coming Up
B.) Wings-Band on the Run
C.) Beatles-A Day In The Life
D.)Magical Mystery Tour-Part Seven (The Beach scene I reference is in the first minute of this)
E.) Paul McCartney-My Ever Present Past

A good source of information for the Film Magical Mystery Tour is at;
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Mystery_Tour_(film)

Just about everything in the Film is Symbolical like the character of the Midget. So something to take a look at is;
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_Midget

Wikipedia is also a good source for the "Official" History of the individual songs.

Cheers

[daveyo]

Just a question roman

you say that you believe that the real paul is on this musical video coming up in what 1980?? How is it possible if he was alleged to be dead sometime in the fall of 66? Something does not add up here.

Care to elaborate and if you can provide me the link on the coming up on you tube because there is quite a few of them there so I do not know which one it is you looked at.

Daveyo

[daveyo]

Hi Roman

I just got done examining the Coming up video and something strikes me very intriguing. Watch the BASS PLAYER because that person I am almost certain is the REAL PAUL. Not the singer because that one is instant the FAUL because of his voice. As I was watching closely the way that BASS PLAYER is moving around just like the real Paul except for some surprise quirky facial expressions, but everything else seems to click and fall right in as being the Real Paul here and those ears is the dead give away linking to his father. Could you please examine it carefully along with Sun King.

Here is the link that I was watching
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDBkySeyiDo&feature=PlayList&p=1812CC25CE228ECE&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=31

If this confirms on this video which was made in 1980 from both of you two most important people on this forum, that the person who is playing on the BASS is the real Paul, it will definitely change everything on this forum which will indicate he is alive in 1980. It is not the guitar player with that long hair.

If you watch closely how that Bass player is moving around in the background, you would swear its the real Paul because I have been studying his moves very carefully. The Faul you can spot so quickly, the way he walked in the video slouched. The real Paul walks straight. The real Paul does not have a spinal curvature from the shoulder to his neck and head. The Faul most certainly does have it.

The real Paul has slightly inward knees, of which his lower legs bow out. Cowboys have it the opposite like a bow leg showing a hole in the middle when they stand up straight.

Anyway when this Bass Player held up the instrument while dancing, it hit me like a lightning bolt!!!!!. If this isn't the real Paul, its very hard for an imposter to duplicate the same physical charisma and character of movements in such short notice. I also noticed the facial structure, and physical structure and the bone structure closely matches to the Real Paul. Hard to believe but yet its so darn close and the way the person stood in the background. So many similarities to the Real Paul.

After reviewing this video then compare to when the real Paul Played either in Japan in 66 or at the Shea Stadium in 65

I wished we could have had a vocal track coming from that Bass player. I am willing to bet it will match to the real Paul provided this review is confirmed or not.

Please let me know

Sun King please if you can for all of us, do check out that video link and discuss it with Roman here and maybe some others who know the real Paul very well. I really want to know coming from you and Roman.

I do not want to make any further speculation because this has a lot of implications involved until both of you can confirm yes or no.

Thanks

Daveyo

[romanruins]

Hello Daveyo,

Paul was born in June 1942, so He was 24 in 1966, and would have been 38 in 1980. Your right in having people do photograph merges from the Coming Up Video. Anyone needs to be careful about coming to absolute position based on style, movement, or facial similarity. All of which can be studied and copied. The Guitarist on the Left with the long hair or whig is dressed in current 1980's clothes. I don't know if the Bass Guitarist on the right is Paul or a Look alike. However of the 4 Musicians, the one who looks like Paul would in 1980 is the Paul on the far left. Would He make a first appearance from the fab four, time period. This opinion comes after watching stills of the Video over a period of weeks. This is all the time I have now.

[daveyo]

Hi Roman,

When you get the chance and the time, your review would be most appreciated. It is very important for us to really look at that one, because its very intriguing and there is so many things that seem to tie up, and it also gives us a better opportunity to double check it carefully.

Many of us were not aware of this possibility and it might have been overlooked for a long long time. The only reason it caught my attention is after watching the real Paul so many times I was looking at the other band members based on your information, and pow I noticed this band player playing the same bass as the real Paul did, and then I watched this person more as it went on. Then I see some of the very same acts that the real Paul did in the past which was the same natural acts and it hit me like a lightning bolt.

The guitar player on the left I am not sure, because he did not emulate the real Paul, but then again maybe he was very careful not to do too much. Not sure, but yes the personification of the past on the long hair etc, and the clothes, can be construed some similarities however the rest ??. A wig it is possible. Not sure. However we do know this much. The real Paul was very fond of his Bass, and rarely left it on the stage out in the open and rarely would play any other instrument out in the open. Yes we do know he started out as a guitar player, but that bass was his main baby. He usually mostly always took it with him when he left the stage. Same like George. It was John who usually will leave his behind. Now in the Japan in 66 video Paul left his behind, which is very rare, unless he had another performance later that same day. I know they did a few shows on the same day to accomodate the crowd demand.

Also those mikes in the Japan 66 video surely pissed off the group. It was awful and it kept moving away from them. Like it was sitting on ball bearings and it was not screwed on tight. With all the hopping Paul does on stage he got all of them to bounce around and the way Ringo had his was just as bad too. I see at one point that Paul wanted to kill that mike in front of him.!!!!! hehehehehehehhehehehehe.

Additionally, Paul today would be 68 years old, and definitely showing grey hair, and sideburns etc, and also be wearing glasses no doubt, and even a receding hair on his head because all of this is hereditary straight from his father. Take a look at his dad when his father was around 70 years old that I posted here in Pauline Transplant topic. Its all tied to the family genes, and even his brother today also is receding his hair on his head and also wearing glasses. A typical trademark on the McCartney line pertaining to the male side. The Faul today does not even come close but surely is close to his momma.

Will wait for your official review and report and the same from Sun King too.

Daveyo

[JamesPaul & Brian]

See more here:

img37.imageshack.us/g/paulmccartneycomingup24i.jpg/

[JamesPaul & Brian]

Feb 16, 2010 17:28:51 GMT romanruins said:

Anyone needs to be careful about coming to absolute position based on style, movement, or facial similarity. All of which can be studied and copied.

Agreed.

Excellent find Romanruins

At your service,
JP&B

[romanruins]

Thanks JamesPaul and Brian, Great job with the pictures! Thanks Daveyo, I've read your posts with interest, and learned some important things! A couple things we should think about;

1.) Telegraph.co.uk 24 Mar. 2008 Neil Aspinall, 'the fifth Beatle', dies aged 66 "His flair for figures helped to transform them into the wealthiest entertainers in the world, with a estimated combined fortune of 2 billion Pounds." (Is that without their independent Labels?)

2.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best_selling_music_artists

3.) At en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_Up_(song) it say Paul played all ten male parts in
the Video without explanation other than use of electronic imagery. What I call the Buddy Holly figure is playing right handed. They had the time, and resources to develop the talents they wanted, and feel worth while going back into the Sixties. So to establish what is what with them "Don't Come Easy" to quote Ringo. (They were, and are Teasing us, to different extends)


I stand by by my posts so far. My Friends, and Detractors can call me Ruin. That's it for now!
Cheers!

[Sun King™]

Feb 17, 2010 4:37:24 GMT JamesPaul & Brian said:

See more here:

img37.imageshack.us/g/paulmccartneycomingup24i.jpg/

Pauline versatility.

Point your attention on Linda disguise instead ...

[romanruins]

Hello Sun King,
I am in agreement that Alice, and-or Billy/Tara are in the Coming Up Music Video. The important issue to me is that the undoctored corporal Paul McCartney is the far left screen Guitarist. The only time I know of Him appearing on Tape since the 1966 tour! We need Facile Fades-Mergers when possible.

Regards,
Ruin

Cheers!

[daveyo]

Hold it for a moment. Didn't anyone of you noticed something on that pic posted by James Paul and by Sun King. That dude in the long hair is not the Real Paul, and I will tell you why. The real Paul did not have much of an adams apple and for the most part the front part of his neck was smooth. I see on this pic with the long hair the Adams Apple is very obvious. Sun King even you said to me on the Faul he has a scar on his adams apple region meaning it was shaved off.

So when they said that Paul played all the men in that video I most certainly do not agree on that assessment and it is false.

However I still would like Sun King and you Roman please take a look at the Bass Player that is on the right side and near the drummer. I am not sure sure about that bass player but I have a strong feeling somewhere inside me that this may be the Real Paul.

I would like if someone can get a few image shots like you did Roman, and post that up, so I can double check all the pics myself and anyone else who might be interested.

This is all I ask is for you guys to review it very carefully and examine it. The Bass Player. And give me your opinion of your findings.

The one thing I am certain so far is this cannot be the Faul who said he also played the instruments. Why, because the head down to the shoulder is straight and not slouched like the Faul is when you look at this person side view. At the same token if possible you can get a clear shot image of the ears because here you can compare to the Real Pauls Father and see if it matches along with the skull and bone structure. Also you will find that there is no Adams apple on this Bass Player. Hmmmmm.

If this all matches up, oh man I will be speechless.

If not then that one is one darn good imposter of the Real Paul and I would wonder just who is that person. Right now I doubt it being a imposter. This is definitely two different people here.

The information in Wikipedia was supplied and answered by non other than the FAUL. Its quite obvious. On the coming up in Wikipedia, I also noticed something kinda strange. There is no mention of who that Bass player is and such was not named in the Wikipedia. I wonder why??? The others were identified but why not the Bass Player. Do any of you concur??

I await your findings

Daveyo

[JamesPaul & Brian]

img269.imageshack.us/g/paulmccartneycomingup08.jpg/

Notice the name on the drum

THE PLASTIC MACS

(plural)

[romanruins]

Hello Daveyo,
Since you asked me for an opinion about the Bass Player I'll give it.
1.) Paul wasn't 24 or 26 in 1980 he would have been 38. The Beatles split in 1970, and never did ONE gig together again. Paul would have had to go to a lot of trouble to appear as the 24 year old Fab Four Bass Player again if it was possible, removing discernible Evidence of who He was. I don't feel it looking at the Bass Guitarist in Coming Up. He looks like a good Double in his twenties Apple and the Gang would have on call. He could be a Faul, but none of them where 24 either in 1980.

2.) The fact that Paul played Bass Guitar in The Beatles was because that's what Audiences expected, and having a consistant Marketing Brand. I can't remember which song he wrote down the tune for with the Asher family piano in the early years before He forgot it.

3.) I am not Human Physiologist. I just don't see the scalpel lines shown on the other thread on the actual skin. I don't know what stock to put in the Adams Apple appearance, how one can be shaved, and don't have the time to investigate it right now. To me the Bass Player looks like He's got a mans Adam Apple.

Ruins,
Cheers!

[daveyo]

Oh boy, Ok take a look at the pauline throat implant topic and you can see the scar running across the throat area where the adams apple is located and you can see that the Faul had his removed. Also for myself, I did not change much from 25 to 35 actually, except having some weight fluctuations. I did begin to start looking different after about age 42 of which then my eyes started to go needing glasses. After about 2-3 years, my hair started to change its color.

Mostly what I am saying the aging and the changing usually begin from 40 on up. I mean yea some things like the skin tone might change but its hardly noticeable. In fact it was the opposite with me, when I reached the 30's I actually got built with muscles and yes I do have a pic of me with my good dear friend here when I just turned 50 and you can see on this pic how big my arms were and about 2 years later it started to disappear, and I don't know why. Hehehehehehehe. Anyhow, from that point on boy have I changed a lot in the last 6 years!!!!!

So, Lets start from there and look at the pic that Sun King showed on the Pauline transplant side and you can see that scar on the Faul. OK

I will try to get you a nice pic of the real paul that shows he does not have a adams apple on one of his natural poses.

I really do appreciate your input Roman as it is vital that we do work it out together and put the pieces together.

Daveyo

Daveyo

[Sun King™]

Feb 17, 2010 22:53:20 GMT JamesPaul & Brian said:

img269.imageshack.us/g/paulmccartneycomingup08.jpg/

Notice the name on the drum

THE PLASTIC MACS

(plural)

[JamesPaul & Brian]

A flower coming up under the Alice sun could Blossom...

[daveyo]

Who is that in the small photo that was posted by Sun King?

[romanruins]

Very Good, Sun King!

Makes you wonder if the "Buddy Holly", and even the "Cavern Club" characters are his offspring to, JamesPaul and Brian. Maybe, Maybe not.

In listening to the Song A Day In The Life, the Paul part does sound to me like the real Paul. The song was studio recorded in January, and February of 1967.

Daveyo, He is a site poster.

Ruins,

Cheers!

Attachments:

[daveyo]

Here is one pic of the real Paul singing and he has somewhat stretched out his neck. Very hard to get a good still shot from a video.

Attachments:

[daveyo]

I have other shots but I do not know how to put all three into one reply here. That part is a mystery to me.

Daveyo

[Michelle, ma belle]

Feb 16, 2010 8:14:22 GMT romanruins said:

Hello Daveyo,

My computer (a Apple using Safari) tells me this site, and board won't let me bring over video's from Youtube or even file pictures even thou Paul Bear for one has done it. (Copy Writes)
That leaves going to Youtube and putting the following in the Search Box;
A.) Paul McCartney-Coming Up
B.) Wings-Band on the Run
C.) Beatles-A Day In The Life
D.)Magical Mystery Tour-Part Seven (The Beach scene I reference is in the first minute of this)
E.) Paul McCartney-My Ever Present Past
It's actually easy with Safari. Copy url at the top of the page youtube
When you write your post clic youtube icon in the upper left corner. Above smily gaces. Paste url in provided box.

A good source of information for the Film Magical Mystery Tour is at;
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Mystery_Tour_(film)

Just about everything in the Film is Symbolical like the character of the Midget. So something to take a look at is;
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_Midget

Wikipedia is also a good source for the "Official" History of the individual songs.

Cheers

It's actually easy with Safari. Copy url at the top of the page youtube
When you write your post click youtube icon in the upper left corner. Above smily faces. Paste url in provided box.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDBkySeyiDo

[daveyo]

No the pics I have are in my computer, and not from You Tube. I have videos of the Beatles from Japan, From England, From Shea Stadium. I wish there was a video of them playing in San Fran which was their last official concert appearance. Cannot find one.

Also I have Windows and use explorer and not Safari. So the system is a bit different.

Incidently true for me just for that brief moment of time, it was wishful thinking that we all for some reason or another would hope to see the real Paul appear again, but sigh, no one has actually seen him since the late fall of 66. After that point ? he plain plum disappeared.

By the way is there anybody interested to buy Abbey Road. I wish I had the cash bucks to buy that Studio. I don't think EMI is going to be able to find some cash infusion to save them from default, needing a cool 170 million dollars come June. If this happens then Citibank gets Abbey Road and this sucks. If they get it, they might sell it for around maybe 70 million or higher since this place is one very expensive valuable piece of Real Estate.

What's with this Faul, and why he not buy it out? He has 50 or a 100 million at the drop of his hat. He has the cash to get it almost instantly instead he says he hopes the place is preserved. Where is his frickin mind> and where is Ringo in this too. I will be damned if they cannot understand its legacy and its importance to the people worldwide.

Daveyo

[Sun King™]

Feb 22, 2010 17:35:19 GMT @daveyo said:

No the pics I have are in my computer, and not from You Tube. I have videos of the Beatles from Japan, From England, From Shea Stadium. I wish there was a video of them playing in San Fran which was their last official concert appearance. Cannot find one.

Also I have Windows and use explorer and not Safari. So the system is a bit different.

Incidently true for me just for that brief moment of time, it was wishful thinking that we all for some reason or another would hope to see the real Paul appear again, but sigh, no one has actually seen him since the late fall of 66. After that point ? he plain plum disappeared.

By the way is there anybody interested to buy Abbey Road. I wish I had the cash bucks to buy that Studio. I don't think EMI is going to be able to find some cash infusion to save them from default, needing a cool 170 million dollars come June. If this happens then Citibank gets Abbey Road and this sucks. If they get it, they might sell it for around maybe 70 million or higher since this place is one very expensive valuable piece of Real Estate.

What's with this Faul, and why he not buy it out? He has 50 or a 100 million at the drop of his hat. He has the cash to get it almost instantly instead he says he hopes the place is preserved. Where is his frickin mind> and where is Ringo in this too. I will be damned if they cannot understand its legacy and its importance to the people worldwide.

Daveyo

The same here.
Fantastic post.