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Post by fishdelusions on Dec 13, 2011 16:59:15 GMT
This is the most blatant clue. Willie Campbell is false. It's fiction created at the University of Michigan on October 14th 1969.
So why is Willie Campbell put into this song? Marketing?
Keep in mind that John first told a couple of people he was leaving the Beatles around September 13th 1969 after the Toronto gig. The Tim Harper PID article in the Drake Times-Delphic was around September 17th 1969 and contains no clues regarding Abbey Road because it wasn't out yet...
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Post by fishdelusions on Dec 13, 2011 17:08:39 GMT
...and because Abbey Road wasn't yet out when the Tim Harper article came out, Paul's take on how the rumor started isn't quite accurate.
That isn't necessarily a result of faulty intent by Paul, but it started on campuses in the US before Abbey Road came out.
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Post by beacon on Dec 15, 2011 10:19:23 GMT
'So why is Willie Campbell put into this song? Marketing?' Or possibly disinformation? I guess we need to know the origin of the PID rumour. Was it was the product of some over active student minds back in 1969 or did the Beatles initiate the rumour themselves?
I think the Sgt Pepper cover has nothing to do with Pauls death, not in a literal sense anyway, but was more about revealing secret knowledge. It could be that by 69 they were disappointed that no-one had picked up on this and so added the 'death' aspect? I think Terry Knight had a hand in this as I alluded to in an earlier post. Alternatively, maybe this was the masterplan all the time?
Whatever the truth of all this when you fast forward to recent times then McCartney is definitely utilising PID to his own end. If that is to provide a revelation or is just another commercial tool remains to be seen.
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Post by beacon on Dec 15, 2011 10:30:57 GMT
It is interesting that the rumour broke just before the release of Abbey Road. Nowadays you would assume this was a piece of a marketing strategy and this may have been the case then. That said the Abbey Road cover does not provide that many clues. The issue of Paul smoking a cigarette in his right hand is irrelevant - there are many pictures of him smoking right handed - the registration plate on the VW, Paul being barefoot etc.
I think the clue that album may refer to is the location itself. St Johns Wood, where Abbey Road is located, is an area of London that was once owned by the Knights Templar and the name 'Abbey Road' implies that an ancient Abbey may once have existed there.
All highly speculative I know, but maybe the Beatles knew something about the areas history and this fits into the mystery somewhere?
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Post by fishdelusions on Dec 15, 2011 16:20:06 GMT
Well obviously there was a real spike in activity relating to PID when YouTube came on the scene and I think its been alluded to along the way that Paul may have had people making videos and infiltrating the forums to promote the legend of PID.
You have to wonder though why the other Beatles participated while it was going on and never ratted him out after the breakup.
Here's John in 1965 after Paul does Yesterday.
Thank you Paul, that was just like him
I realize you can't always take what John says at face value but the very fact that he's got this in his consciousness in 1965 has to mean something.
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Post by fishdelusions on Dec 15, 2011 16:23:03 GMT
Regarding the origin, I've read, and I cant seem to find the quote so it's hearsay for now, that the rumor was rampant in California during the summer of '69 and kids were bringing it back to school with them that fall from the coast. If I find the quote(s) I'll post it...
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Post by fishdelusions on Dec 17, 2011 2:13:48 GMT
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Post by beacon on Dec 17, 2011 13:13:56 GMT
Great article, thanks for posting.
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Post by fishdelusions on Dec 19, 2011 3:50:59 GMT
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Post by beacon on Dec 19, 2011 9:53:20 GMT
Interesting how it talks about the creation of a new religion with Paul as messiah. That is perhaps about the most consistent aspect of PID and I believe gets closest to what the Beatles were intending.
Fred LaBour has admitted making up most of this article but I didn't see any reference to a date or the drum?
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Post by fishdelusions on Dec 19, 2011 15:26:05 GMT
Not a specific date, but early November '66 is right at the beginning. This may turn out to be one of my 922 items. To my knowledge there is no clue pointing towards early November other than the drum.
Bruce Spizer I believe made the drum clue public in '79 although there were rumors that it was known much earlier; I haven't seen an earlier reference to it. I'm curious because Lily mirrored is also III X.
I'm wondering if they intended a date or number clue at all or it just happened to be this way, and Fred just so happened to pick out the same time frame for his date.
Its interesting to me because the date has fixated everyone's attention on the fall of '66 and later. If everyone keeps saying to focus there, that might in fact be a good reason to look further back. I put reversed LPs up from before Pepper and everyone asks why, this is precisely why...
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Post by beacon on Dec 19, 2011 16:22:10 GMT
The whole drum thing is highly speculative imo. If it is a date, does it refer to September or November? As the Beatles are British I would say they are refering to November. It would be an amazing coincidence if Fred LaBour had just plucked November out of thin air without knowing about the drum clue.
I am not sure it is a date. This is something I speculate on in my youtube films, that it may be a biblical reference.
Personally I think the whole thing began in 1966. This is the point the Beatles come into contact with the literature and the ideas and the people who would truly influence them. According to established Beatle history 'rain' is the first song with any backward material on it. Whilst that may not be true I would be surprised if there is any major backward messages that appear prior to that.
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Post by fishdelusions on Dec 19, 2011 16:51:04 GMT
Well the Sgt. Pepper song was written in late January and recorded on Feb. 1st. Wouldn't that mean that Lonely Hearts would have had to have been specifically named with a drum clue in mind? And then Lily matches it?
My interpretation of it is actually 13 as one and one and one is three; but the real point is how "random" actually served to foster the environment of this story being true.
The drum matches the article which matches Lily which coincides with Paul's facial change and yet there is seemingly no evidence of any component connecting with any other component knowingly. A bunch of random pieces just fell right into place...
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Post by beacon on Jan 30, 2012 12:24:25 GMT
Am wondering if this guy with Robert Fraser  might be the photographer Ed Ruscha? Thoughts anyone?  |
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