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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 18, 2003 6:34:08 GMT
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Post by MrMustard on Sept 18, 2003 6:46:00 GMT
They look weird eh!!! ;D Not like Paul at all!
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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 18, 2003 6:53:23 GMT
heres 2 more from miss mustard!!
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Post by MrMustard on Sept 18, 2003 6:55:13 GMT
Doesn't the last one really scare you! It's freaky!
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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 18, 2003 6:57:24 GMT
yeah, william sheppard without his glasses and mustache
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Post by Eggman on Sept 18, 2003 12:31:25 GMT
VERY GOOD WORK!!!!! ;D ;D You're right, it's really weird to see Billy!!!!
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Post by SunKing on Sept 18, 2003 16:58:19 GMT
...pauses to nervously rub ear... ...and how can people think he is James Paul McCartney....what a long nose! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by zazleek on Sept 18, 2003 23:14:20 GMT
Thanks! Those are great. The pictures Miss Mustard did look nothing like Paul, while curiously the shot at the bottom from the doorstep interview does look like him...curiouser and curiouser
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Post by Chris on Sept 19, 2003 2:17:19 GMT
I think that they had Paul grow a mustache. Or, they had him use a fake moustache. I have a little different scenario. I believe that Paul was very sick. He wanted out of the Beatles. He was going to go off on his own. He had asked Jane to marry him. They were going to get married & Paul was going to work at a slower pace. Do some solo work. The powers that be weren't happy with this. They told Paul that he couldn't just leave the group. The Beatles were at the height of their fame. I think the other 3 didn't want to stop being the Beatles. They didn't think that they'd have the same following without him. They half convinced Paul that they could just put a double in his place. That he could go off & do his own thing. That this guy would take his place until the Beatles played out. Then he'd be paid off & Paul could resume being himself. He'd only have to go off for a little while in anonymity. While this was happening, I think something went horribly wrong. I think Paul must've said the wrong thing. Began having second thoughts about giving up his name. I think he knew Billy. They might've even worked together for awhile, so that Billy could get better at imitating Paul. Paul was driving from East to west. To a seaside resort with Ritchie. In or near Liverpool. Something happened. They were in a car accident. From this moment on, the 601F document takes over the story. Brian was with them... Don't ask how I know all of this. I just do... It explains the mustache & why James Paul was so nervous during the interview. He might've been trying to change his personality a little. So that Billy wouldn't be so obviously different when he took over... All I have to say is that James Paul was royally screwed. By those he trusted most. Ritchie walked away while they kidnapped James Paul & Brian. Instead of folding up the Beatles, John was there when they buried Paul somewhere secret. Sun King thinks it's John's Ascot Estate. I believe that Paul is buried in Strawberry Fields. As John says in the song, I buried Paul... IN Strawberry Fields... And that's all they wrote... Chris
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Post by PaulBearer on Sept 19, 2003 4:10:35 GMT
Excuse my ignorance but ... who's Ritchie?
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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 19, 2003 4:12:10 GMT
i was wondering that same thing
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Post by gharryson on Sept 19, 2003 4:49:26 GMT
Barbara would sometimes call Ringo "ritchie" but i don't think this is who Chris meant.......
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Post by googoo on Sept 19, 2003 5:24:03 GMT
What Chris wrote here is THE TRUTH!
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 19, 2003 5:33:33 GMT
And the hypnotist said; "Sleep, sleep. Now, when I count to three you will believe whatever I tell you. 1,2,3. Now, when you need to believe that you can do this thing, just touch your right jaw near the ear, and you will remember what ever you need to remember; you will believe you can handle it and will perform perfectly. OK, toiuch your jaw! now, when I count 3 you will awaken. 1...2...3!!!!!!!
..there's no place like home..there's no place like home....there's no place like home.................
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Post by googoo on Sept 19, 2003 6:08:38 GMT
LOL ;D
Perplexed...I believe you are on to something with that It's a strange gesture to make - why draw attention to his jawline, to his bone structure
An unconscious way of pointing out, look, this face is wrong?
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 19, 2003 7:31:00 GMT
Some actors and performers use a "touch" to trigger certain things in themselves that they have pre-determined, like "I will remember all my lines," , or "This song goes like such and such." not everyone, but I think it is known as a self-hypnosis technique.
Just my opinions, but: I have this little clip on an old VHS I found. My gut reaction to it was, "Who is this person?" The way his eyes move about in the video is like when a student gets questioned by the teacher. He seems nervous and off guard. Just like in a dress rehearsal that hasn't had enough rehearsal beforehand. Actors get that furtive, pensive, tentative vibe and seem to work very hard at maintaining "stage composure." He does seem to get toungue tied; phrases are interupted and the overall effect is a desperate bluster. (I am not tryin to throw stones at anyone; I've had some moments of struggle while performing, too)The sub-text (there is often "subtext" to all scripted dialog from Shakespeare on) seems to be "Please understand..you've just all got to understand us.....how can you expect us to be different?" He appears to be pleaing in a certain way. The body langage also says the same thing, if you watch it with the audio down. The eyebrows are saying something like "Please don't doubt me............" There is no arrogance here, just terrific concern.
If this is Paul, then there has been a radical facial surgery to correct what must have happened in some dreadful accident. I'd be nervous too, if I was a vain man.
But the eyebrow angle is not suggestive of Paul. The eyes are not widely spaced enough. The haircut is the most bizarre thing. It looks like it was being grown to aim at a Beatle cut, and the gaps in the bangs speak volumes about hair thickness in front and where the cowlick and part really want to be. If a "right parting" male combs his hair over to make it a left part, well, certain hair patterns, like mine, just don't work. "You're parting it on the wrong side!" they say. But Paul's hair (in the summer 66 photo shoot for "Yesterday and Today" butcher cover) looks as thick as a sheepdogs.
If it is not Paul, then this is the proverbial picture of "a deer in the headlights." And I can understand this too, if he for a moment paused to consider his position here. Goodness gracious. "This is my first time out, and I've got to take the whole audience with me!!!!" "I haven't had time...I don't know everything yet........what if..what if............" Everybody gets stage fright.
Then one remembers "If I just touch my cheek (knee, finger, forehead, elbow, hell, whatever works!) then I will be composed, completely confident. I get the feeling that if there was ever a time to have, a least privately, second thoughts about a commitment , this seems like it could have been at this time.
The other possibility is that it is a signal to communicate with someone "Bail, bail out!. Get me out of this fast!" I know plenty of singers who tug an earlobe during a song to tell the soundman to give them more vocals in the monitor!
But you know, speculatively speaking, if you've been told this mission was for the benefit of your nation and crown, and you love music passionately, and you actually do have a lot of real talent (which I do think he does) and you are, like completely out of the blue, asked to participate in something wildly far-fetched, and exciting, what do you do? After all, if one weren't personally involved with the parties in question, nice fellows though they may be, and there are shadowy folks in nice suits talking it all up-------really if you can put yourself in the shoes of a person possibly in this dilemma----who knows.
And again, just a wild notion here, if there were any, miltary implications, one sees that until a issue becomes declassified, there is simply no comment forthcoming.
In America we have stealth aircraft. They were a rumored for years. One day in the 80's it became declassified; and it was presented neatly on the Nightly News. Some were surprised but not really everyone. Now everyone knows what it looks like and how fast it flies etc.....and it is no big shocker. It is a symbol of a succuessful aeronautics administration. The day came for us to know. We're still hangin' on the UFO issue, but we got our stealth info on.........
Some public revelations may never come, I suppose. I for one, think it is best to NOT try to force a hand. The constant seeking of arcane knowledge is exausting and dangerous. It is like following Alice down the rabbit hole. Perhaps there is value in being happy with what one has.
I may be lambasted right off this forum for saying this, but I urge caution and consideration in all pursuits of this type. Let us not bark at what we know not. And, no, I know nothing special. I am a nobody in a secondary metropolitan area with no clout and zero connections. Mysteries are fun'; but, especially you young people on this forum: Live your lives!!!! Speculation is allright; but as much as I like the early Beatles and Paul's music--it isn't worth courting trouble. Sun King sounds concerned in a recent post.
Youthful idealism is a so needed in this world. But weigh everything.
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Post by SunKing on Sept 19, 2003 10:55:04 GMT
Thanks! Those are great. The pictures Miss Mustard did look nothing like Paul, while curiously the shot at the bottom from the doorstep interview does look like him...curiouser and curiouser Chris, you say you do love James Paul McCartney and you have forgot his TRUE LOOK so SOON? (both of 1966 and dimensions are equalized)
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Post by Chris on Sept 19, 2003 13:32:48 GMT
Ritchie is Barbara's husband. I'm not at liberty to go into details. Lets just say that I have a very strong feeling in my deepest heart of hearts, that this is how it went down. Call it woman's intuition if you like... Sometimes, I feel like James Paul is very close to me. I'm not psychic or anything like that. I honestly can't explain it.... I do know for certain, especially after viewing the forensic evidence, that he IS dead... All we need is love & THE TRUTH... Chris
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Post by Chris on Sept 19, 2003 13:40:03 GMT
But Sun King, you are the one who said that he might be James Paul. I was just going with what YOU said. You know that I hold your opinion & expertise in my highest esteem. It really doesn't matter. That was just one possible scenario. I thought it was odd, but I figured that you had a reason for saying that. I was just trying to make sense of it. If that's not the scenario, then it was just Billy bumbling. Either way, I stick to everything else I said. It's just a hypothesis that I've been working on. I still feel that Billy & Paul knew each other. That it might not have been intended to be a permanent switch of identity. Just a hypothesis. It doesn't effect the authenticity or the strength of the 601F story. The only real difference is that I have a feeling Ritchie was there. Why, I can't say... Sometimes, all we have to go with is what our hearts tell us. You're very right. James Paul is in my heart... I love you.... Chris
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Post by SunKing on Sept 19, 2003 17:40:44 GMT
But Sun King, you are the one who said that he might be James Paul. Chris, when? where? how? No, I ALWAYS told it was Faul. December 20th 1966. Offiicial presentation of Faul to the press against Abbey Road Studios. Fresh plastic surgery but "still" with a longer nose...too long! I am happy you've stopped what "we know". I told you: "Too dangerous" As you see....me, always right? Sun King
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Post by zazleek on Sept 19, 2003 20:43:20 GMT
I'm confused, because the Dec 20th tv pictures of Faul look much more like Paul (esp on the previous page) than the posed photographs, when surely they would have had more time to touch them up etc!
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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 19, 2003 23:57:21 GMT
...and that guy could be James Paul McCartney....what a nose! ;D ;D ;D i think what sun king meant was "and how can people think he is james paul mccartney?"
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Post by Chris on Sept 20, 2003 0:49:17 GMT
:DS.K. - I'm sorry. I really did misunderstand you. It just goes along with how naive I REALLY am. I told you I was Forgive me Love yah... Chris
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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 20, 2003 1:46:56 GMT
we forgive ya, hun *hug*
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Post by TheeCavendeshLane on Sept 20, 2003 15:12:09 GMT
That isnt McCartney's hand
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