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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Jul 10, 2005 2:23:55 GMT
I'm sure you are all aware of this pic. Here's how it now appears on Sun King and UberKinder's sites, and it's original orientation on the White Album Poster: Now, here's that image flipped horizontally, how it originally appeared on Sun King and UberKinder's sites, and the orientation I still use for my fades and such: Notice the similarity in hairlines to faul in this comparison: people say that this orientation has to be wrong, because the eyebrow on our right is arched up, and in pictures of Paul and Faul, the left one is. But it looks to me like he's just raising his eyebrow to trick people into thinking that the flipped orientation is correct. Also, this flipped orientation matches perfectly ;D just wanted to get my opinion out.
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Jul 10, 2005 17:57:54 GMT
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Post by bxv on Sept 5, 2005 6:29:33 GMT
Hi RRD and all. Please dont think Im trying to override all your previous work in this area. But I do think this photo is a complete fake. The dark side of his face does not correspond with the light side. Here's the guy on the light side. Ears and chin are visibly at odds left and right. Different forehead, neck and shoulder. The glasses are also drawn on. Ive examined it up close. If you look closely at the original pic you can also see that the jacket style is slightly different at the lapel. This must be the first instance of this dopple-fakery.
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Post by plastic paul on Sept 5, 2005 13:16:39 GMT
OMG its Freddy Mercury!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Sept 7, 2005 2:59:53 GMT
Hi RRD and all. Please dont think Im trying to override all your previous work in this area. But I do think this photo is a complete fake. The dark side of his face does not correspond with the light side. Here's the guy on the light side. Ears and chin are visibly at odds left and right. Different forehead, neck and shoulder. The glasses are also drawn on. Ive examined it up close. If you look closely at the original pic you can also see that the jacket style is slightly different at the lapel. This must be the first instance of this dopple-fakery. I tried it, and got better results. I think your mirror line was off to the left a bit much.
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Post by bxv on Sept 7, 2005 4:09:22 GMT
That's excellent work RRD. Would you agree that it's two different people left and right? Or do you think it's grotesqe asymetry?
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 7, 2005 6:03:43 GMT
"....had the left side face part injured in an old accident....."
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Sept 7, 2005 17:33:43 GMT
actually, the picture isn't that asymetrical.
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Post by defhermit on Sept 7, 2005 18:08:29 GMT
no faces are perfectly symetrical!
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 8, 2005 0:46:10 GMT
Well it comes the time to tell something about that... The White Album Poster picture about an "early" Bill was not flipped. Why? This picture is from the same photo session. That was an early make-up experiment. He tried to replicate the dermo abrasion Paul had in his right (on our left) part of his chin. It went bad in that session. Beard didn't grow on that part. It is for all the life. Faul has NO MORE that feature.
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 8, 2005 6:10:54 GMT
Oh wow...I never noticed that thingy on the right side of Paul's chin where a beard wouldn't grow. You've got a good eye. But there's one thing I don't understand; what did you mean when you said "It went bad in that session"? Were you talking about the Butcher photo sessions with Paul or the Penny Lane (at least I think it's Penny Lane) photo sessions with Bill? And what went wrong? I postulate that he was "nick"ed by Occam's Razor. That's, of course, the simplest answer. But, we must ask you to keep it your lips sealed. I mean, it's a theory with one major stip-ting point. No one, in fact, ever found the rusty clippers. (It happened during the video shoot of Penny Lane. Now there was a pair of horse scissors there, at the shoot, for trimming mare manes, but Macca refused those Filly Shears.) So, I must-ash you to keep all this to yourselves, because it involves a very, very close shave for Macca back in the 60's. We wouldn't want to have any bad blade around here, now would we? So, hair it is, the twist in the story, according to the results of a very well known barber's poll of the time, the story goes, that his beard actually dyed. However, here is the good news. His beard was replaced, amidst whiskers of approval. There was only one stipple-ation. But, I'd lather not say what it was. I'm shorn to secrecy. ;D
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Post by TPIMaster on Sept 8, 2005 15:28:44 GMT
Well it comes the time to tell something about that... The White Album Poster picture about an "early" Bill was not flipped. Why? This picture is from the same photo session. That was an early Freddie Williamson make-up experiment. He tried to replicate the dermo abrasion Paul had in his right (on our left) part of his chin. It went bad in that session. Beard didn't grow on that part. It is for all the life. Faul has NO MORE that feature. They do look alike... Only the hair and the moustache are shorter. And there are glasses of course. The chin, nose and hair are exactly the same.
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Post by neoexelor on Sept 8, 2005 15:40:12 GMT
Doesnt look like the same session.
A. The Moustache was a gap in it; the white album pic doesnt B. White Album pic has an open forehead; the other one doesnt C. The chin is much different
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Post by plastic paul on Sept 8, 2005 16:44:00 GMT
To me the chin is the main thing that matches!
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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 8, 2005 16:44:14 GMT
Doesnt look like the same session. A. The Moustache was a gap in it; the white album pic doesnt B. White Album pic has an open forehead; the other one doesnt C. The chin is much different The whole dress is the same The light is the same The chin is the same The hair has just a toupe added on the front The moustache are the same just a bit "increased" Two DIFFERENT stages of the same make-up session.
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Post by TPIMaster on Sept 8, 2005 18:15:56 GMT
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 10, 2005 12:59:47 GMT
TPIMaster :
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Post by plastic paul on Sept 10, 2005 18:01:32 GMT
Definitely agree with that BP.
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Sept 11, 2005 13:11:37 GMT
This could be the best matching I've ever seen! Why? The pictures were taken about 20 mins apart! (I assume the makeup takes time to perfect. )
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 14, 2005 13:28:27 GMT
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 15, 2005 14:24:41 GMT
"They didn't notice the make-up had changed"
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Post by weighe on Sept 15, 2005 16:20:22 GMT
[/center] That was an early Freddie Williamson make-up experiment. He tried to replicate the dermo abrasion Paul had in his right (on our left) part of his chin. It went bad in that session. Beard didn't grow on that part. It is for all the life. Faul has NO MORE that feature. [/quote] Not as good quality, but it shows the same feature:
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 15, 2005 20:21:33 GMT
Not as good quality, but it shows the same feature: Excellent picture posted! Never seen before. Thank You!
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 15, 2005 20:40:47 GMT
Not as good quality, but it shows the same feature: Excellent picture posted! Never seen before. Thank You! A very viable image. Thank you for posting, Weighe. Do you pronounce that like, "way", "way-ee", "way-eh", or just good old celtic, "way-gjgghhgjuh?"
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Post by weighe on Sept 15, 2005 22:21:08 GMT
BP, glad to help! Perplexed, I would hazard a guess and say it's pronounced "whee". But I'm just not sure.
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