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Post by Ludwig on Jul 9, 2006 15:59:46 GMT
I'd like to preface this thread by saying it is a work in progress and your brilliant collective input is much desired and always appreciated...even the raps upside the head. During recent late night, early morning and midday pursuits of all things conspiratorial, I meditated on Fauls enigmatic existence, in particular his pseudonyms, and found the choices he made in constructing the character of Percy "Thrills" Thrillington intriguing. For those not familiar with the character here's some background info: From:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrillington "Thrillington is a 1977 album by Paul McCartney, under the pseudonym Percy "Thrills" Thrillington. The album is an instrumental cover version of Paul and Linda McCartney's 1971 album Ram. Arranger Richard Hewson was asked to arrange the orchestration before Ram had yet been released. Thrillingron was recorded in June of 1971, with McCartney as producer, and was intended to be released shortly thereafter. The decision of Paul and Linda McCartney to form Wings, however, resulted in the album being shelved until 1977. Thrillington was arranged by Richard Hewson... Hewson had formed a jazz group with bass player Peter Asher, whose sister Jane Asher happened to be an ex-girlfriend of McCarney. He arranged "Those Were the Days" for performance by Mary Hopkin... Hewson again crossed the Beatles' path in a very special way in 1970, when Phil Spector selected him to write the arrangements on "The Long and Winding Road", "Let it Be", and "I Me Mine". In 1971, McCartney asked Hewson to participate in Thrillington." What's interesting is that Percy Thrillington actually has a bio and background story of his own. This is what I wish to dissect and look at in this thread. From the above link: "Supposedly, Percy Thrillington was born in Coventry Cathedral in 15 September 1939. He's a man with a ram head, as the cover of the orignal album. As a young man his travels [bring him to the] USA to Baton Rouge where he studied music for five years [at] the university and the conservatory, with excelent callifications[?]. Moving later to Los Angeles working as a producer and arranger. His "new" project is the orchestral version of the old Paul & Linda McCartney's album "Ram", with a help from London's best musicians, with his specials arrangements. According to an article published in London's Evening Standard in March 1977 (and reprinted in a recent Club Sandwich), when Paul started his new company in 1971, McCartney Productions, Ltd. (later to become MPL), the first artist signed to the organization was an Irish bandleader named Percy Thrillington. So as far back as the days of the album's recording, the Thrillington name, apparently, has been kicked around." 1. Coventry Cathedral - Coventry Cathedral, also known as St. Michael's Cathedral, is the seat of the Bishop of Coventry and the Diocese of Coventry, in Coventry, West Midlands, England. The city has had three cathedrals. The first was St. Mary's, a monastic building, only a few ruins of which remain. The second was St. Michael's, a Church of England church, later designated Cathedral, that remains a ruined shell after its bombing during the Second World War. The third is the new St. Michael's Cathedral, built after the destruction of the former and a celebration of 20th century architecture.-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coventry_Cathedral 2.15 September 1939 - Thrillington will turn 67 September of this year. Does his birth date predate the name of "Coventry Cathedral" as it relates to St. Michael's? 3. Ram head - An obvious connection to the album RAM but is there more? Cypripedium arietinum - orchid of northern North America having a brownish-green flower and red-and-white lip suggestive of a ram's head, ladies' slipper, lady's slipper, lady-slipper, slipper orchid - any of several chiefly American wildflowers having an inflated pouchlike lip; difficult or impossible to cultivate in the garden. From:http://www.insects.org/ced2/beetles_rel_sym.html (An article titled 'Beetles as Religious Symbols' ) "The name Khepri (or Kheperi, or Khepera) means "The Being, The Extant."..." Originally, Khepri represented the sun from sunrise to sunset, although the oldest texts describe him setting in the western horizon at dusk... He is represented as a man with a scarab topping or replacing his head... Khepri lost his association with the "dying" evening sun, to the god Atum, who is often figured with a ram head. For this reason, the ram-headed scarab represents the sun in the double aspects of rising/setting, or birth/death. To Khepri and Atum is often added Re, "The Sun," who subsumes them." Is this where the Pagan God Amentet (Sp?) comes from - also depicted with a ram's head. A beetle that was replaced by a ram. Edit: I have yet to find images or references to Atum depicted with a ram's head other than this article, though many early representations of ancient Egyptian Gods featured ram heads. 4.Baton Rouge University/conservatory - This is probably a reference to Louisiana State University School of Music at Baton Rouge although another "bio" indicated he went to Baton Rouge to study music for five years with no reference to a university or conservatory. Although an interesting find, among the contributing Patrons of the Alumni fund is a "Dr. & Mrs. William F. Campbell" www.music.lsu.edu/alumni_frameset.htm (Apologies to the LSU professor Dr. William Campbell that might be innocently contributing to the school Also, the LSU marching band (The Tigers) original wood framed building burned down in the 1950's. Was Billy a Fireman at the scene? Well, it's a start, I guess. I'll add more as it develops. Is there anything to all of this? I think so. Could I be wrong? Oh, yes I could. Are there any such things as coincidences? I'm going on the premise that Percy's story might be, in part, Bill's story. Five years of music study, time spent in the North America, older than JPM but not by much, the birth/death and destroy/rebuild references, the first artist signed by MPL in 1971 with no mention of the name until 1977 and the idea that he's fictitious. It's all fictitious. Nothing is real.
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Post by TotalInformation on Jul 9, 2006 17:26:59 GMT
And the governor of Louisiana at the time was Jimmie Davis whose "You Are My Sunshine" was on SMiLE, an album that took 37 years to complete after meeting FAUL drove Brian Wilson insane.. dun dun DUUUNNNN
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Post by Ludwig on Jul 9, 2006 17:56:10 GMT
Going too far am I? The Egyptian God is Khnum. God of human creation. Shapes clay into the human from on a potters wheel.
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Post by beatled on Jul 9, 2006 18:41:02 GMT
Well it's interesting that not only was a pseudonym made up, but that there is a "biography" as well. Both Paul and Faul used pen names to write for others on occasion, but the characters were never fleshed out as such.
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Post by Paulythene Paul on Jul 9, 2006 19:02:57 GMT
Khepri ---> Cepri ---> Cepry --->Cpery ---> Pcery ---> Pecry ---> Percy
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Post by Ludwig on Jul 9, 2006 19:16:24 GMT
Khepri ---> Cepri ---> Cepry --->Cpery ---> Pcery ---> Pecry ---> Percy Very cool paulythene!
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Post by Perplexed on Jul 9, 2006 23:19:19 GMT
ludwig-----wow, ok, cool stuff. You followed a mental thread that came from a really good inspiration. Nice.Especialy finding a link for the Ram's head with Thrillington that makes a lot of sense and the connections of Hewson and Asher.
Right, Peter Asher did play he bass........HMMMM.............
And, the possibility of the Thrilington back story as a parallel to Macca's---me thinks you are onto something valid there.
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Post by Perplexed on Jul 9, 2006 23:19:59 GMT
Going too far am I? The Egyptian God is Khnum. God of human creation. Shapes clay into the human from on a potters wheel. stunning
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Post by Perplexed on Jul 9, 2006 23:37:49 GMT
Khepri ---> Cepri ---> Cepry --->Cpery ---> Pcery ---> Pecry ---> Percy Transmutation. Of man? Of name? Of both? www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=Khepri+&btnG=Searchen.wikipedia.org/wiki/KhepriA QUOTE FROM WIKIPEDIA: In Egyptian mythology, Khepri (also spelt Khepera, Kheper, Chepri, Khepra) is the name of a minor god. The origin of belief in Khepri lies in the observation that dung beetles have a habit of pushing large balls of dung around, and so some Egyptians came up with the idea that the sun moved across the sky because it was being pushed by such a beetle. Since Khepri was considered to push the sun, he gradually came to embody aspects of the sun itself, and therefore was a solar deity. To explain where the sun goes at night, such pushing was extended to the underworld, Khepri's pushing of the sun being ceaseless. Since the scarab beetle lays its eggs in the bodies of various dead animals, including other scarabs, and in dung, from which they emerge having been born, the ancient Egyptians believed that scarab beetles were created from dead matter. Because of this, they also associated the Khepri with rebirth, renewal, and resurrection. Indeed, his name (kheper in Egyptian) means to come into being. As a result of this, when the rival cult of the sun-god Ra gained significance, Khepri was identified as the aspect of Ra which constitutes only the dawning sun (i.e the sun when it comes into being). Subsequently, when Ra and Atum became identified as one another, Khepri, which was Ra's young form, became conflated with Nefertum, which was Atum's. This lead to a cosmogony where Ra, as Khepri, a beetle, resulted from the Ogdoad's activities, and emerged from a (blue) lotus flower, only to immediately transform into Nefertum, a youth, who, after growing up, masturbated the Ennead into existence. Khepri was principally depicted as a whole scarab beetle, though in some tomb paintings and funerary papyri he is represented as a human male with a scarab as a head. He is also depicted as a scarab in a solar barque held aloft by Nun. When represented as a scarab beetle, he was typically depicted pushing the sun across the sky every day, as well as rolling it safely through the Egyptian underworld every night. As an aspect of Ra, he is particularly prevalent in the funerary literature of the New Kingdom, when many Ramesside tombs in the Valley of the Kings were decorated with depictions Ra as a sun-disc, containing images of Khepri, the dawning sun, and Atum (the setting sun aspect of Ra). END QUOTE. Also, on the Isle of Capri (sounds like Khepri a little bit), a Roman general once delivered (with 92,000 slaves no doubt) a Sphinx from Egypt as a gift........maybe Khepri lives on Capri.....
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Post by Ludwig on Jul 10, 2006 13:00:37 GMT
Thanks for the kind words Doc, and you rock by the way! I loved the passages you highlighted. They sent shivers up my spine as I read them. Transformation was an important aspect of the Beatles individually and collectively. Transformation of appearance, spirituality and talent. Powerful stuff. Someone realized their potential before they did. We were expected to transform with them.
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Post by Ludwig on Jul 10, 2006 13:22:56 GMT
From: www.mcbeatle.de/macca/a/thrillington_gds.html"...no one had heard Ram yet; it hadn't been released. It was the second week in May 1971, and the album wasn't due for release in the UK until May 28. It is interesting to note, at this point, that McCartney had begun the orchestral version of his new album before his own version was even released. Just what Paul had in mind is to this day a mystery. "He just wanted to do it," remembers Hewson. "Just make an orchestral album of it." "Following the coda of piano break, there is a curious sound - that of some water dripping. Believe it or not, the final signature on Paul McCartney's first instrumental album was provided by none other than one of Abbey Road's archaic, leaking toilets. Tony Clark remembers, "I remember coming out from the toilet saying to Paul, 'It's amazing - it sounds in tune!' So, of course, Paul goes in himself, and he has a listen."... He listened, Paul listened and Alan Parsons listened, and before anyone knew it, the fellows from the amp room had a microphone set up and four recordings were made, providing a, well, unique ending to the album - in stereo, no less. "And it's in tune," adds Clark. " "Thrillington" and this album cover were both designed by Hipgnosis.
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Post by Sun King™ on Jul 10, 2006 17:59:46 GMT
Khepri ---> Cepri ---> Cepry --->Cpery ---> Pcery ---> Pecry ---> Percy Very cool paulythene! Think ..... Johnny Halliday killed Sylvie for jealousy..... Paul killed Johnny as revenge ... The Fool on the hill was wearing a "killer coat" .... fool as a revenger.... Abbey Road: The Beatles were carrying Paul to the police ..... "It was told in plain text"....
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Post by Ludwig on Jul 10, 2006 18:17:50 GMT
I got ya Sun King. The description of the Egyptian glyph above says three Gods are accompanying one man on a solar barque to his death. I thought there was a similarity between the two.
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Post by Perplexed on Jul 10, 2006 20:06:03 GMT
From: www.mcbeatle.de/macca/a/thrillington_gds.html"...no one had heard Ram yet; it hadn't been released. It was the second week in May 1971, and the album wasn't due for release in the UK until May 28. It is interesting to note, at this point, that McCartney had begun the orchestral version of his new album before his own version was even released. Just what Paul had in mind is to this day a mystery. "He just wanted to do it," remembers Hewson. "Just make an orchestral album of it." "Following the coda of piano break, there is a curious sound - that of some water dripping. Believe it or not, the final signature on Paul McCartney's first instrumental album was provided by none other than one of Abbey Road's archaic, leaking toilets. Tony Clark remembers, "I remember coming out from the toilet saying to Paul, 'It's amazing - it sounds in tune!' So, of course, Paul goes in himself, and he has a listen."... He listened, Paul listened and Alan Parsons listened, and before anyone knew it, the fellows from the amp room had a microphone set up and four recordings were made, providing a, well, unique ending to the album - in stereo, no less. "And it's in tune," adds Clark. " "Thrillington" and this album cover were both designed by Hipgnosis. Fasciting. Which song, though? I will re read the thread; I missed something. Ah, the musical properties of sounds made by the movement of water. Higgnosis? Maybe gnosis is "the knwoledge", and "hip" is, wel, "hip". The hip-knowledge. I wonder if "hip", or "heth-pe", has meaning in Hebrew, Greek, Egyptian, or Sanskit. Imagine 2500-3000 years ago, some Egyptian cat watching his friend make some groovy hieroglyphs on a tomb wall, and he declares, "Hip, nephew of Tutank-Re." Just muzing.
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Post by Jilli on Jul 11, 2006 8:22:46 GMT
Eye in the Sky is a book by Philip K. Dick published in 1957. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_in_the_Sky_%28book%29While on a visit to the (fictional) Belmont Bevatron, eight people become stuck in a series of subtly unreal worlds. These are later revealed to be solipsistic manifestations, bringing the story in line with Dick's penchant for subjective realities. Also check out the story " A Scanner Darkly" 4 beatles 4 lookalikes? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._DickPhilip Kindred Dick (December 16, 1928 – March 2, 1982) had a twin sister and was an American science fiction writer. In addition to forty-four books currently in print, Dick produced a number of short stories and minor works which were published in pulp magazines. At least seven of his stories have been adapted into films. Though hailed during his lifetime by peers such as Stanislaw Lem, Robert A. Heinlein, and Robert Silverberg, Dick received little public recognition until after his death. He won the John W. Campbell Memorial Award for best novel in 1975. "Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said" is a Philip K. Dick novel in which Jason Taverner, who is a Six (a genetically improved superhuman) as well as a singer and television star, lives in a future American police state. He wakes up one day into a world where he is unknown - and without any existence in the records of the State. As an ex-celebrity ex-citizen, he has real problems. Paul? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_W._CampbellJohn Wood Campbell, Jr. (June 8, 1910 – July 11, 1971) was an influential science-fiction writer and editor. As a writer he was first influential under his own name as a writer of super-science space opera and then under the name Don A. Stuart, a pseudonym he used for moodier, less pulpish stories. His mother, Dorothy (née Strahern) was warm but changeable of character and had an identical twin who visited them often and who disliked young John. John was unable to tell them apart and was frequently coldly rebuffed by the person he took to be his mother. As Sam Moskowitz has written about Campbell in his early critical study of science-fiction writers, "From the memories of his childhood he drew the most fearsome agony of the past: the doubts, the fears, the shock, and the frustration of repeatedly discovering that the woman who looked so much like his mother was not who she seemed. Who goes there? Friend or foe? John and Paul/Faul?
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Post by Ludwig on Jul 11, 2006 12:41:41 GMT
Byrds! {bows to the lyrics master} Jilli!! This just gets weirder by the hour. Is VALIS still a member here? I would take it, given his name, that he's an avid Phillip K. Dick fan. All of these talented people appear to have been a part of something. Something big and inspired. Whether it was all part of the same thing or just a unique convergence of artistic movements that seem to fit is difficult to know. So many odd and wonderful things in the mainstream and, essentially, so few involved. Phillip K. Dick was "resurrected" as an android by coalition of fans, scientists etc. and his droid supposedly went missing last year. pkdandroid.org
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Post by valis on Jul 11, 2006 14:37:44 GMT
I'm still here, yes I'm a very big Pilip K Dick fan..and I can say that most of his work since 67 reminds me a lot about this Beatlemystery. PKD worked in a musicstore in his early years and has some good ears and taste..next to a lot of classical he loved the Beatles and Bowie (another can of worms). He once had a strange situation where he was playing Strawberry Fields Forever..and instead of the usual lyrics he got a message that his son was really ill and should be taken to hospital immediately. The doctors were amazed that PKD could explain the illness in detail..he was right in time to save his son's life. I'll write some more about his PID clues later..the important novels dealing with this are: Do Androids Dream of Electic Sheep (Blade Runner),Ubik, Flow my Tears the Policeman Said, A Scanner Darkly, Valis and Radio Free Albemuth. What caught my eye right now is the scarab connection..it just sunk in to me that a scarab is a sort of beetle. I remember a story of the psychologist Carl Jung..where a golden scarab synchronicity is helping a patient of his to get over her rationalityproblems. It reminds me a lot of my theory that the Beatlesmystery is a way for us to escape the illusionary prison of programmed reality and wake up to a new world where anything is possible. Yes we are transforming..robots in disguise Here is an article on it. www.psychovision.ch/synw/scarab_synchronicity_Jung.htm
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Post by Ludwig on Jul 11, 2006 19:06:15 GMT
Synchronicity. I think I need an aspirin.
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Post by Ludwig on Jul 11, 2006 19:27:48 GMT
Think ..... Johnny Halliday killed Sylvie for jealousy..... Paul killed Johnny as revenge ... Quite a revelation if it's true. Do we know this? Or are we just thinking it? Yes, good question.
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Post by Ludwig on Jul 12, 2006 0:06:02 GMT
Ludwig wrote: "and his droid supposedly went missing last year." Under the light of a full Harvest moon it came to life, and got into a car..... rented an apartment in Boston, was seen at Goodtyme Charlie's with a beer and some wings, talking to a waitress. works the night shift at 7/11. This is stupid. Gasp! Well, uh, okay. The droid thing was mostly meant to be funny but with a grain of relevance in that it, imo, exemplified the birth/death/transformation thing at it's darkest...or weirdest. A Phillip K. Droid vs. a Fillip. F. Fick.
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Post by valis on Jul 12, 2006 0:51:39 GMT
I think to us Beatlefans the Beatlemystery means exactly the same as the scarab/beetle incident Jung had with a patient. To get us to break thru our rational thinking and programmed beliefs of how this reality is working.
I have been noticing for a while that the things we love offer us a way out of this maze. Music, movies, books they all seem to point to the way out...even cartoons I loved when I was a kid now start to make real sense and reveal their imbedded wisdom..reflecting on them after all these years. The things we love are mostly works of fiction...art is lies that tell the truth. However it seems that we take the things we don't like much more seriously...the authorities telling us the facts about what is real..whether religious, scientific, political or in the media.
None of us really know what is going on..so anyone claiming to know the truth is heading out for disaster.
In a way our reality is so unknown that anything can happen...everything could be very explosive. That brings us back to the basic rule. "Love outer reality as you love inner reality and the nondual source of reality above all"
Ofcourse we have to investigate reality and bring up truth in order to heal all the lies that have been presented to us.
All big events are huge outside projections of our own mental state, a lot of times in our lives we are still behaving like Beatle Bill and the people behind the replacement, only it doesn't seem so bad because we think our misdeeds are insignificant in the face of the huge horrors of this world. But that is not the case...the world is a reflection of our minds..not the other way round.
There's also two ways to look at this mystery 1.It's a crimescene and all the evildoers have to be tracked and punished (and it's getting a bit out of hand with all the people involved in all the replacements) 2.Reality is not what it seems..linear history doesn't really exist..and the growing amount of doubles and doubledoubles is just a sign that our minds are adapting to the idea that all of reality is fluid and changeable in any moment including the past. Maybe it's time to grow up and realize that beneath the superficial differences we are all the same and we all want the same. All You Need Is Love...KnoW..YES.
Synchronicity gives us some big clues that outer realiy is a direct reflection of our inner reality..that our mood at any given moment even dictates the biggest "seemingly uncontrolled"events in our lives..even as far as global politics and climatechanges.
If causality is just a programmed illusion..we also can see that any moment we can start anew. I think that's the esoteric meaning behind the story of the Christ. By believing in causality it's easy to hang onto old mistakes, and repeating them because we are identifying ourselves more and more with those mistakes. If we let go of the idea of causality we can be freed from our regrets of the past and fears of the future. Jesus already died for our sins..meaning we are free..as long as we start to care and be our true selves instead of hanging onto and believing in our own shortcomings and thereby perpetuating those mistakes. True faith is not believing someone's word or book..it's about understanding the story of (a) Man. Finding out that we all made our mistakes but underneath the beauty shines thru more and more. I think it's important to understand the teachings of the Christ..not to believe his existence...what if you came to a schoolexam and wouldn't know any of the answers but just proclaim that you believe in yor teacher..that doesn't make much sense..I think that's the problem with religions..Belief Vs Understanding.
The story of BeatleBill is like all our life stories...when we grow up we lose all the childlike qualities and become a shadow of ourselves...opportunistic, greedy, vain. For us researchers it's easy to see that difference between James Paul and Bill...James Paul is the pure child whereas Bill is the egoistic "Grown Up"
Now is a time for all of us to really grow up, to combine the joy of youth with the experience of the grown up into a sort of global wise old wholy man.
All these mysteries are essentially pointing their fingers back at ourselves.
Still have a lot of peace to make
All Love Jan
I hope I didn't derail this thread too much
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Post by Ludwig on Jul 12, 2006 2:30:58 GMT
"All these mysteries are essentially pointing their fingers back at ourselves."
It's clear from your response and some of the other responses that just about everyone here is seeking a release from the confines of this "real" world. Some believe that they have already reached a certain level of transcendence where things like this mystery are projected manifestations of inner strife. I myself am a recent disciple the "Holographic Universe" but, even under those auspices, I don't believe we are released from the universal responsibility of fending off that which attepmts to control. The Beatlemystery is a microcosm of a greater human dillemma and one cannot allow oneself to become complacent or else it really is all lost. If apathy is a viable solution, then it serves no one except those that perpetrate such dilemmas. BTW, I apologize if this feels like an attack, it is not. It is a call to all that see and hear to keep going. There is more to the story. There really are no coincidences. Once the collective unconscious understands this then REAL changes can be effected. This universe and everything in it is worth fighting for.
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Post by unrepentant on Jul 12, 2006 2:40:59 GMT
"If apathy is a viable solution, then it serves no one except those that perpetrate such dilemmas...."
BUT.....apathy is the greatest virtue of this holographic universe you mention. if it had an agenda, where would that leave you and me? i think an ambivilent universe serves all of us.
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Post by valis on Jul 12, 2006 3:22:07 GMT
Dear Ludwig,
I'm not offended, since you're at a board like this you must be among the top of questioning people. What I meant is that we are completely responsible for everything..a scary thought..but the good thing is that it also releases us from all the bullshit fantasy powertrips the authoroties have laid on us for ages, we are completely free as long as we respect the integrity of the total of creation. Apathy and complacency have led us into this shithole...but it also has been necessary. We had to experience duality and strife to the extreme..to really start to understand the consequences of the choises we make. How can one create a pure light without knowing all the effects of darkness?
In a way the darkness is a blessing, waking us up. In the golden 90s era everyone made lots of money and there was no reason to think or care about another..the last few years we have harshly found out that we only have eachother..and that abstracts like religion or politics will never save us.
I think the whole G W Bush era is a big gift..it shows us to not trust authorities and teaches us to take our own responsibilities..create our own community (on and offline). Outwardly it may seem a drama..but when we look inward the neocons regime is a perfect mirror for the corruption programmed into all of us. On the one hand you have to smile and be nice..underneath it is KILL OR BE KILLED. We have all been raised (programmed) with that schizophrenic mindset.
That schizophrenia between being good and putting your own gain at the top of the list is one of our major diseases today. Our efforts at being good are very regularly being erased by our own apathy/egotism which keeps us running around in circles. One step forward two steps back.
But I like to think positive..and we'll get it right bit by bit. Truth builds..lies implode on themselves sooner or later..this is not a fight between good and evil..it's between truth and delusion. If you look at it this way it's much easier to see why the liars never will succeed in the long run, they buld their castles on the quicksand of their perverse dualistic fantasies.
Finally we are released from the burden of being at the whims of god or government..it however creates another seemingly burden..that of being responsible for everything. And that idea really scares the hell out of me..I've been struggling with that thought for a long time. But with it comes a complete freedom..most of what we've been told has been bullshit..so we are free to do whatever we really want when we respect the complete reality and don't cut it up into subjective notions of right and wrong.
We are completely responsible and completely free
All Love Jan
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Post by Perplexed on Jul 12, 2006 3:41:59 GMT
If causality is just a programmed illusion..we also can see that any moment we can start anew. I think that's the esoteric meaning behind the story of the Christ. By believing in causality it's easy to hang onto old mistakes, and repeating them because we are identifying ourselves more and more with those mistakes. If we let go of the idea of causality we can be freed from our regrets of the past and fears of the future. Jesus already died for our sins..meaning we are free..as long as we start to care and be our true selves instead of hanging onto and believing in our own shortcomings and thereby perpetuating those mistakes. True faith is not believing someone's word or book..it's about understanding the story of (a) Man. Finding out that we all made our mistakes but underneath the beauty shines thru more and more. I think it's important to understand the teachings of the Christ..not to believe his existence...what if you came to a schoolexam and wouldn't know any of the answers but just proclaim that you believe in yor teacher..that doesn't make much sense..I think that's the problem with religions..Belief Vs Understanding. The story of BeatleBill is like all our life stories...when we grow up we lose all the childlike qualities and become a shadow of ourselves...opportunistic, greedy, vain. For us researchers it's easy to see that difference between James Paul and Bill...James Paul is the pure child whereas Bill is the egoistic "Grown Up" Now is a time for all of us to really grow up, to combine the joy of youth with the experience of the grown up into a sort of global wise old wholy man. All these mysteries are essentially pointing their fingers back at ourselves. Applause.
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