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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 17:17:41 GMT
LENNON: "Yeah. 'Sgt. Pepper' was Paul's idea, and I remember he worked on it a lot and suddenly called me to go into the studio, said it was time to write some songs. On 'Pepper,' under the pressure of only ten days, I managed to come up with 'Lucy in the Sky' and 'Day in the Life.' We weren't communicating enough, you see. And later on, that's why I got resentful about all that stuff. But now I understand that it was just the same competitive game going on."
Damn, that "Faul" sure is a good song writer/musician!
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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 18:14:27 GMT
PLAYBOY: "Did it trouble you when the interpretations of your songs were destructive, such as when Charles Manson claimed that your lyrics were messages to him?"
LENNON: "No. It has nothing to do with me. It's like that guy, Son of Sam, who was having these talks with the dog. Manson was just an extreme version of the people who came up with the 'Paul is dead' thing or who figured out that the initials to 'Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds' were LSD and concluded I was writing about acid."
He laughed at you then, and he's probably still laughing now.
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Post by Eggman on Aug 18, 2003 18:16:38 GMT
Mmmmm.... I'm not sure about it, I think he's still crying now  |
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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 18:18:11 GMT
PLAYBOY: "'I am the Walrus.'"
LENNON: "The first line was written on one acid trip one weekend. The second line was written on the next acid trip the next weekend, and it was filled in after I met Yoko. Part of it was putting down Hare Krishna. All these people were going on about Hare Krishna, Allen Ginsberg in particular. The reference to 'Element'ry penguin' is the elementary, naive attitude of going around chanting, 'Hare Krishna,' or putting all your faith in any one idol. I was writing obscurely, a la Dylan, in those days."
PLAYBOY: "The song is very complicated, musically."
LENNON: "It actually was fantastic in stereo, but you never hear it all. There was too much to get on. It was too messy a mix. One track was live BBC Radio-- Shakespeare or something-- I just fed in whatever lines came in."
PLAYBOY: "What about the walrus itself?"
LENNON: "It's from 'The Walrus and the Carpenter.' 'Alice in Wonderland.' To me, it was a beautiful poem. It never dawned on me that Lewis Carroll was commenting on the capitalist and social system. I never went into that bit about what he really meant, like people are doing with the Beatles' work. Later, I went back and looked at it and realized that the walrus was the bad guy in the story and the carpenter was the good guy. I thought, Oh, shit, I picked the wrong guy. I should have said, 'I am the carpenter.' But that wouldn't have been the same, would it? (singing) 'I am the carpenter....'"
More tidbits.
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 18, 2003 18:20:56 GMT
Lennon knew the penalty was for talking was death. What would you expect him to say?
Of course, he was killed by a CIA "lone nut" operation later that very day. Despite his efforts to play along during that interview, it was evident to the cryptocracy he was becoming more and more the loose cannon.
Hope this helps.
EDIT - Lennon was doing some other interviews that day, the Playboy interviews were a few months before.
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Post by Eggman on Aug 18, 2003 18:22:15 GMT
He never told directly the truth, that's why he placed the clues |
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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 18:24:12 GMT
lol, i think you give credit where credit isn't deserved. Why would with CIA give a rats ass about The Beatles? They have never given a rats ass about any other band. I have to say, after reading countless interviews with John, I'm convinced this is all a sham.
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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 18:30:53 GMT
LENNON: "It's fear of the unknown. The unknown is what it is. And to be frightened of it is what sends everybody scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, all that... it's all illusion. Unknown is what what it is. Accept that it's unknown and it's plain sailing. Everything is unknown... then you're ahead of the game. That's what it is. Right?"
Enough said.
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Post by Eggman on Aug 18, 2003 18:30:56 GMT
John never was a common man |
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 18, 2003 18:37:27 GMT
LOL, I think you need to study history and look at how intelligence agencies engage in mass mind-control using any and all tools possible, including popular culture. Lennon talked about it in the very same interview you're pasting quotes from.
I also suggest you study the facts of the case in the Lennon assassination. There's a thread on the "other Beatles" board that can start pointing you in the right direction.
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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 18:41:44 GMT
I think you make life seem more exciting than it really is.
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Post by Eggman on Aug 18, 2003 18:42:03 GMT
Look into the FBI files |
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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 18:45:30 GMT
Oh, and one last thing? Why wouldn't the intelligence agencies do anything about this website? They could kill Lennon but not get rid of a couple of fanatics behind the computer, rehashing a conspiracy? I'm sure if they wanted to, they could track all your IP's, and know where you live.
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Post by Forum Manager on Aug 18, 2003 18:51:25 GMT
they dont view us as a threat... yet
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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 18:54:34 GMT
I just found this searching for "Lennon's death" on hotbot.
Find out the Truth about John Lennon's
assassination with this 24 page booklet
Reveals government codes in major magazines, Including the killers face, and true identity. Mark Chapman's name attached to a letter to the editor printed weeks before the murder and more that proves a Nixon, Reagan, and yes, Stephen King conspiracy.
As John would say; "DON'T LET ME DOWN." Please support me. I can't do it alone. Let's confront the media or they won't tell.
(The picture caption shows a magazine with big bold letters, "STEPHEN KING SHOT LENNON")
So there we have it, folks. You can all go to sleep comfortably now.
Btw, I suggest you guys check out Weird Al's song "One of those days"
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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 19:12:32 GMT
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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 19:20:11 GMT
(quoted from the webpage listed above)
"Who Authorized The Assassination Of John Lennon?
It took me almost 22 years to figure out who most likely authorized the assassination of John Lennon, the greatest singer songwriter and the most influential political artist of our time. I believe it could have been the CIA that manipulated the assassin of John Winston Lennon, but more likely, I believe a new army of old school CIA, which was let go under President Carter, manipulated the assassin. I believe the assassin was a mind-control experiment, like all their old tricks of MKULTRA, only much more sophisticated. I believe their old boss authorized it. The person the CIA building in Washington D.C. is named after. I believe he was the same person who tried to assassinate President Ronald Wilson Reagan on his sixty-ninth day in office -- March 30, 1981. He is the person with the most to gain from both of these assassinations. So, who authorized the assassination of John Lennon? I believe it was the 41st President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush. "
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Post by SunKing on Aug 18, 2003 19:33:27 GMT
Booom!  [glow=red,2,300]WARNING![/glow] This forum will be closed because..... |
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 18, 2003 20:00:58 GMT
Zappaboy:
A) I think you have been programmed to see little beyond a carefully manufactured reality.
B) You obviously still have not checked out the Lennon assassination thread on this forum.
C) I said nothing about Stephen King. Bringing this notion into the picture is called a "setting up a straw man" and is indicative of someone in a debate not having the facts to back his position.
D) If you study the Lennon and Reagan assassination/attempts, you will indeed see the modus operandi are very similar. I get into this some on the Lennon assassination thread I referred you to. You obviously are not familiar with, for starters, the long friendship between the Bush and Hinckley families.
E) Killing a whole bunch of people who are publicly and explicitly talking about your complicity in a crime is the best way to EXPOSE yourself. Just to give an example, Gennifer Flowers said this a number of times when asked why she wasn't whacked like a number of Clinton's other associates.
F) I have the Wierd Al album in question.
Cheers,
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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 21:07:30 GMT
TotalInformationboy, you seem to think that I was posting comments in reply to your own. I just took one word which was "CIA" from your post and used to for a gag. I posted the Stephen King in attempt to bring some humor to this, because I find all of this very funny! I assure you that I have been in no-way programmed except with survival tactics and spotting bullshit. (there's some over there!) I've been collecting comparisons from other PID websites, and none even match up to 60IF. Plus, who's going to actually believe a conspiracy started by a radio DJ? If anything, those are the ones who are programmed. Until the CIA or FBI invades my life and privacy, I don't have much to worry about. I guess this just goes along with all the people that read tabloids.
For everyone else: Ok, so for a second, we stop and pretend that Paul IS actually dead. How will that change YOUR life? I know it wouldn't change mine at all. So there's a cover up? It's not like it's anything new. I don't trust what my government hands to me, and nor do I trust what I read on websites that claim to be conspiracies. I've looked at everything (up until now) with an open mind, and I've come to the personal conclusion that it's a fraud. By whom, who knows.....and who cares. Won't change the fact that I can still wake up tomorrow.
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 18, 2003 21:20:28 GMT
Yes, you find it "funny" because that's how you've been programmed by the government schools and Operation MOCKINGBIRD's mass media.
It's also evident you've been programmed so as to be incapable of stringing together a coherent paragraph, so I'll just let the rest of your ramblings stand with no reply.
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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 21:37:10 GMT
What does it matter how I form my words? As long as communiction is made and understood. You seem to be reading my comments fine. Plus this is the internet. No need to be all formal and pompus.
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Post by Zappaisbest on Aug 18, 2003 22:16:46 GMT
Oh, and if I was programmed by government schools, why didn't they program me to form a coherent paragraph? Seems like they forgot that one.
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 18, 2003 22:48:23 GMT
Sorry buddy, but it's nigh impossible to make sense of half of what you're saying in the first paragraph of the post in question.
If you're apporaching this forum with the attitude that "this is the Internet," and therefore you have no obligation to be informed on the subject you're discussing, and to have something coherent and worthwhile to say, you're violating the clearly-posted rule that this forum is for intelligent discussion -- and you'd just as soon leave.
Furthermore, the educational system is NOT designed to turn out people with critical thinking skills. You should read up on the history of American education and how it's been shaped by weasely groups such as Skull & Bones and the Department of Defense. Charlotte Iserbyt's "deliberate dumbing down" may be a good place to start. It's not a matter of forgetfulness so much as intent.
Anyone who can look at the stark photographic and forensic evidence that McCartney was replaced and continue the doublethink and denial. . .
Weasels ripped their brain. Buzz.
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Post by Revolver on Aug 19, 2003 0:33:21 GMT
SunKing has but a warning on this thread. As far as I know, skeptics and believers are all welcome, but NO FLAMING.
I was not aware that the date of the Interview was the day he was shot. Is this true? From the interview itself is appears John debunks the 'Paul is dead' theme. Would anyone on the outside or inside have known the content of the interview itself on the day he died or when the plane of MDC departed on Dec 2nd?
As far as what difference does it make if Paul is alive or not, it is callous to think that it would not. I grieved for a week at how much pain such an incident would have caused for the Beatles and their fans after finding this site and considered the possibility more seriously. The JFK assasination altered the mood of the earth worldwide, as Paul's death most certainly would have in retrospect.
I am not convinced that Paul was subbed, and the interview suggests that Paul had been working on Sgt Peppers. Nice to know some source material was compiled as it accounts for the quality of the Album, the vocals of which could have been performed by the Scottish individual. Possible, yes, probable? Not sure. But after seeing Paul with a razor in his right hand preparing to shave, not something a lefty would ever do.
Concerning the death of John himself, I have my own take on this. A couple weeks before he died I had a premonition that he was shot. I was shaken and prayed for him. In all honesty I do think he is spiritually alive in his son Julian. I find consolation that "Operation PDUMP' was a success, and will discuss this no further.
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