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Post by JoJo on Nov 12, 2003 22:44:25 GMT
I had no idea what you were talking about, so I found it's called "Give My Regards to Broad Street". Did you know you could buy a laserdisk of this? beatleshelp.topcities.com/macca/pm-bro.html I wouldn't waste my money and no laserdisk player anyway. Thanks for the file LongJohn, he does sound like he's struggling! Well of course, right?
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Post by eyesbleed on Nov 13, 2003 2:47:40 GMT
JoJo, don't "waste" money on this, it's faul's worst... and it's sad... i can put links to the others (just for a short time) if you want. and about eleanor rigby, could i send it to you, like we did the other time (splitting into parts) and then you post the link?? what do you say?? and so you'll hear "eleanor's dream" Ya, no point in anybody else wasting their money! I just got a copy cheap on ebay so I could make a comparison cd. It's got studio Faul versions of Good Day Sunshine Yesterday Here There & Everywhere For No One Eleanor Rigby Maybe I could help out & upload some of these to my geocities space? Be happy to if that would help.... whenever I can get a free minute or 2.
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Post by JoJo on Nov 13, 2003 3:41:47 GMT
JoJo, don't "waste" money on this, it's faul's worst... and it's sad... i can put links to the others (just for a short time) if you want. and about eleanor rigby, could i send it to you, like we did the other time (splitting into parts) and then you post the link?? what do you say?? and so you'll hear "eleanor's dream" Yeah that sounds good, go ahead and send it, I'll be happy to put it up. We can keep doing this if you have other stuff, but the older stuff will have to be rotated out as time goes on.
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Post by Curious on Nov 18, 2003 13:17:41 GMT
Just a question for the voice experts here: a lot has been made about pre-66 Macca not having the range of the post-66 Faul. I tend to agree. I did have a question on one song imparticular: What about Hard Days Night where Paul sings the middle bridge section -- the second half ("when I'm home, feeling you hold in me tight...tight...yeah") Seems pretty high for Paul. How high is his highest note in that section? He appears to strain and drop off on "yeah" -- is that another clue that either he a) trained like mad with a voice coach post-66 or b) there is a different higher-singer on the later stuff? Maybe just a strained take? I value you opinions, thanks in advance. SilverBeatle, although a voice coach can help you hit higher notes, if it doesn't work, it just doesn't work. No amount of traning can make your voice hit notes happily when it just isn't capable of doing so. I would say that the later impersonators have naturally higher voices.
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Post by Piggies on Dec 16, 2003 7:40:59 GMT
I listened to both versions of "For No One" several times, an though the later version shows an older voice with some wavering on sustained notes, it sure sounds like the same voice to me.
For Example: Check out the original at about 1:40, and the Broadstreet version at 1:50.
The line : "And in her eyes, you see nothing"
If that's not the same guy, then "Faul" is one amazing impersonator.
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Post by Curious on Dec 16, 2003 10:00:42 GMT
I did the analysis on this a few weeks ago, but never got round to writing it up.
The two versions of "For No-One" are fundamentally different. Remember that, by the time that "Broadstreet" was recorded, Faul would have had around 20 years to work on his impersonation.
The Beatles version is recorded semitone lower than Faul's solo version, which is probably indicative of very little, to be honest.
The voice singing the Beatles' version is VERY English, with a hint of a Liverpool accent coming through. Less of an accent is common when you sing. The "o"s are the big giveaway that this is a Northern voice, as are the flat "a"s and spat-out "t"s. The "r"s are not over pronounced, but have a hint of a Liverpool roll to them. The voice is warm, young and rich.
Faul's solo version is sung by a MUCH older voice. Physically, I would place the singer of this version in his mid-50s, rather than his mid-40s, which Paul would have been. This is displayed by the quaveriness of it - the voice is approaching old age and becomes much less reliable. Your voice changes almost as much at the approximate age of 60 as it does at puberty - usually getting thinner and a little higher - losing much of its character.
The voice also exhibits a lot of Americanisms - rounded "r"s, extended vowels and the tendency to replace "t" with "d". If Paul hd been undergoing voice training, no singing coach would have allowed these nuances to occur. It would work against the whole natural grain of the singer's voice, whch, in turn, would make singing difficult and strained, especially on higher notes. This alone would make the higher songs, that Faul is prone to singing, difficult.
If you work on an impersonation for long enough - even for only a few weeks or months - it quickly becomes accurate and credible. So imagine what you could do with 20 years...
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