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Post by PaulBearer on Aug 31, 2004 5:01:28 GMT
He can't see Other Conspiracies.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on May 26, 2006 18:48:33 GMT
shirley temple 3x on sgt pepper "shirley temple" portrayed as an adult in MMT (movie) she plays a key role.......in the tent show, she's picked up by the courrier and held before the crowd (cheering) , then is dropped like a hot potato..... Someone who is familiar with MMT, please elaborate on this scene for us who haven't seen it. Is there any doubt that this person is supposed to be Shirley Temple in the movie? What is the point of this scene in the movie? Is there more to it? How does it tie in with the rest of the film? Someone please explain. Thank you.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on May 27, 2006 19:17:45 GMT
Anyone? I know it's a holiday weekend here in the States, but please, if you can elaborate on that scene, please do!
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Post by beatled on May 29, 2006 2:24:05 GMT
That's a real interesting take on that scene, never would have thought of that woman as representing Shirley Temple. She appears elsewhere, notably when Bill makes his comment about looking younger due to the "fair argyle sweater" he's wearing. That tent scene is just that, the crowd goes into a small two man tent and emerges in a room big enough to hold them all, then after a brief scene where the courier picks up the woman then drops her, they all watch the Blue Jay Way video. You really need to watch MMT Byrds, required viewing in this line of work... (I can help out if you want) I'm not sure that the woman as Temple is a connection I would make, but who knows? maybe Faul was a child actor in the late 40's/ or early 50's........Now that would be a mind blower!
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Post by byrdsmaniac on May 29, 2006 18:34:26 GMT
Thank you for that response, JoJo. It clears things up a bit. I've been trying to get my hands on MMT for quite a while. The computer I have access to has dial-up internet, and is too slow to download any lengthy files. And presently my finances are in disarray, to say the least. (I'll PM you.) While the tent scene was, undoubtedly, absurd - with a stream of people filing into a small tent, it reminds me of John Fuller's book about UFO abductee Betty Andreasson. It's called "The Watchers". There's a similar situation described there-in, where she goes into a twenty-foot craft, only to find the inside "enormous". Believe it or not, such accounts aren't rare in UFO literature. I'm not saying that that's what the tent scene represents. I have yet to see MMT.
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Post by sweetlorettamartin on May 30, 2006 18:16:46 GMT
Maybe Bill was a "little rascal"...
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Post by LUCY on May 31, 2006 4:38:57 GMT
Shirley temple 3x on sgt pepper "Shirley temple" portrayed as an adult in MMT (movie) she plays a key role.......in the tent show, she's picked up by the courrier and held before the crowd (cheering) , then is dropped like a hot potato..... Someone who is familiar with MMT, please elaborate on this scene for us who haven't seen it. Is there any doubt that this person is supposed to be Shirley Temple in the movie? What is the point of this scene in the movie? Is there more to it? How does it tie in with the rest of the film? Someone please explain. Thank you. On the bus there is an exchange that casts the woman early on as an ex child actress. Bill or whatever his real name is flubs the title of one of her movies in chit chat( obviously scripted scene) The Blue Bird, says Blue Jay, which is one of Temple's later films. It all ties in, and there's a more detailed thread around here someplace. Seek and ye shall find. See MMT, it's required homework. "When Darryl F. Zanuck's arrangement to loan Shirley Temple to MGM as star of The Wizard of Oz fell through, Zanuck hastily assembled a lavish Technicolor vehicle for his diminutive star which, he hoped, would match Wizard in popularity and appeal. The result was The Blue Bird, adapted from the allegorical stage play by Maurice Maeterlinck (previously filmed by director Maurice Tourneur in 1918). In emulation of The Wizard of Oz, The Blue Bird was bookended with black-and-white sequences, reserving Technicolor for the fantasy "body" of the film; similarly, Gale Sondergaard, who had been the first choice to play the Wicked Witch of the West in Wizard, was cast as Blue Bird's nominal villainess............"
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Post by beatled on Jun 1, 2006 1:24:05 GMT
Faul: Well you know when I saw your first film..
Gabriella: (her name in the film) Oh yes..
Faul: I really thought you had something.
Gabriella: But I was only about six then!
Faul: Wasn't it Blue Lady? Lady in Blue, something like that?
Gabriella: How old are you?
Faul: You were..you were..I myself am 30, but I look a little younger due to a fair isle sweater which allows you....
(Interruped by Little George, who wants to take a picture of Gabriella)
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 1, 2006 12:59:03 GMT
Thank you for those posts Lucy and JoJo! Lucy wrote: "...The result was The Blue Bird..." Hmmm. JoJo wrote: "I myself am 30, but I look a little younger..." Double Hmmm.
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Post by JamesPaul & Brian on Jun 3, 2006 6:30:19 GMT
Faul: Well you know when I saw your first film..
Gabriella: (her name in the film) Oh yes..
Faul: I really thought you had something.
Gabriella: But I was only about six then!Sylvie had a part in a Bulgarian film at the age of six. www.aplmusique.com/vartan/vartanf.htmThe film name means " Under the Yoke" Faul: You were..you were..I myself am 30, but I look a little younger due to a fair isle sweater which allows you....A fair isle yoke sweater? The lady in blue
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Post by pleaspleaseme314 on Oct 18, 2006 13:04:24 GMT
Many of the clues on the albums are visual puns rather than symbols of death. I think that the 3 images of Shirley Temple refer to the 3 Masonic Lodges or TEMPLES (RED, BLUE and EASTERN)!!! Another visual pun we`ve seen in several places is the well-known upraised hand over McCartney`s head... think of it like this: Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia...or...HAND OVER THE HEAD OF PAUL MCCARTNEY!!! Get it? The single consistent theme I see in everything related to PID is the representation of various methods and symbols used by the Illuminati, everything from USE OF MIRRORS TO FIND CLUES, to having the images of famous people belonging to secret societies (POE, CROWLEY, LEWIS CARROLL) on the Sergeant Pepper Cover. My feeling is that John and George perpetrated the placing of the clues to tell the fans that it was Paul who had been specifically solicited for recruitment into the Illuminati through a lodge called the Order of the Black Rose* and, upon joining, realizes that the Beatles were being sold out, with the co-operation of Paul! He had sold his soul and was now SPIRITUALLY DEAD to the rest of the band! If my friends on this board are familiar with the writings of Fritz Springmeier. then they should be able to get the gist of what I'm saying; it could be merely that McCartney lost his soul as the result of lluminati black magic ritual of Initiation, and the story of the car accident might have been the proverbial "red herring" to get the fans to look below the surface at what was happening in the band....these are some of my thoughts, anyway. I'd really like to know what you think...I also feel there is a strong possibility that he could have indeed been replaced, as there is much in Springmeier's writings on the USE OF DOUBLES within the Illuminati......
*more on this later
LOVE, PEACE & TRUTH TO ALL...LOTS MORE WHERE THESE CAME FROM, MY FRIENDS!!!
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Post by Paul Bearer on Oct 18, 2006 20:38:41 GMT
I thought three Shirley Temples meant she'd been replaced twice! Or does it mean both?
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Post by Sun King™ on Oct 18, 2006 22:11:40 GMT
I thought three Shirley Temples meant she'd been replaced twice! Exactly..... Doubles are the best weapon. Mikhail Gorbaciov was he replaced too?....
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Post by ezwizard on Oct 19, 2006 0:13:59 GMT
To pleaspleaseme314,
Nice post. I think you've got a good handle on what was really going on with the post Pepper Beatles. I'll be awaiting your follow-up on this subject.
My take on the open palm so often seen over Phaul's head is the acknowledgment that this is the 5th Beatle (5 fingers). Also, I've long believed that he is a Rosicrucian - although I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the Order of the Black Rose - it might make sense of the Magical Mystery Tour black rose/carnation clue.
At one point I considered the "spiritual death" aspect also...but now I'm of the opinion that he was permanently replaced due to a ritualistic murder - most probably a decapitation.
EZ
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 19, 2006 2:52:01 GMT
To pleaspleaseme314, Nice post. I think you've got a good handle on what was really going on with the post Pepper Beatles. I'll be awaiting your follow-up on this subject. My take on the open palm so often seen over Phaul's head is the acknowledgment that this is the 5th Beatle (5 fingers). Also, I've long believed that he is a Rosicrucian - although I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the Order of the Black Rose - it might make sense of the Magical Mystery Tour black rose/carnation clue. At one point I considered the "spiritual death" aspect also...but now I'm of the opinion that he was permanently replaced due to a ritualistic murder - most probably a decapitation. EZ This may be so obscure a reference as to be comic, but the hand over Paul's head is that of Issy Bonn, yes? www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006DICP/infoline0f-21Note: Album's first cut is :"Pal Must Be A Pal Forever". (Pal=Paul?) Well, in a manner of speaking, yea! Now, Issy is a Jewish nickname, probably from the first name "Israel", or perhaps another name. But it is a close cognate and related to this name: www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/3/1161225530-7771.htmlYishviy, which boils down to in KJV to Ishui, which renders very close to "Issy" in certain Hebrew speech patterns. Ishui means: "he RESEMBLES me." If you read about early Hebrew pronounciation, you may encounter the Bible story of the Israelites who pronounced "s" different ways. One tribe said "S" for the letter "s" (shin) like we do, the other tribes all said "SH" and in fact had great difficulty forming the pure sound of "s". Likewise the other had trouble with SH. (Similar to the way "Sinead" is "Shinade" to the Irish, but "Sinaid" to the English, though in Modern English we say both.) Anyway, Issy is for this reason, very close to the Hebrew dialect in certain cases (Ishui =(Issuey). "Bon" in French means "good", or "well". So, the name could be taken as : "He well resembles me.", with the outstretched hand a hand of endorsement of such. Of course, the fact that neither Bill nor Paul look anything like Issy goes without saying.
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 20, 2006 3:28:56 GMT
Still, Issy Bonn. Hmmmmm....... But, then again, I don't know. Old pictures, rather distorted. Still, the smile is a comic, clown, make-everybody-have-a-good-time kinda of expression. I don't know. Still, about Issy Bonn: www.chelsea-lodge.org.uk/masters.htmWhat is the Chelsea Lodge? Is this a Masonry page? And imdb trivia on him says only this: poll.imdb.com/name/nm0094771/bio"Retired from performing to become a theatrical agent.
Noted comedian, famous for his BBC radio shows, and in the music halls."He appeared in just two movies, "Thank You", and "Discoveries." Anyone?
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Post by Paulythene Paul on Oct 22, 2006 1:58:53 GMT
Issy Bonn... Is he gone? Issy? No. A Paul must be a Paul forever.
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 22, 2006 5:05:01 GMT
Issy Bonn... Is he gone? Issy? No. A Paul must be a Paul forever. I just had a horibble name occur to me for a rock and roll headliner. Iggy Issy Bono. OK that's lame, Just wanted to Cher. D'oh. Press the "eject" button.
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Post by pleaspleaseme314 on Nov 6, 2006 8:12:38 GMT
more for you guys, 'just a couple of quick ones" for now...being magically attacked as I write this by the low level Illuminati slaves who belong to the covens in the town where I live...consider if you haven`t already, why on the Revolver cover Paul is REALLY rendered in profile...not necessarily because he`s dead, but rather his possible allegience to A SINGLE & ALL-SEEING EYE... number two...look at the position of his hands and legs, how his body is posed on the front cover of Hey Jude...also what he & the others are wearing...predominantly black...Paul`s body looking as though it`s been lying in state, had its eyes opened before being propped up against the door, hands positioned like the body in a coffin, & then the picture was taken... his suit looks like something definitely that would be worn by a dead man...also note how glazed his eyes look...the hoax broke in the media on Aleister Crowley`s Birthday, & I recall someone on the board posting the info that Fred LaBoer got a lucracative recording contract from PETER ASHER SOMETIME AFTER THE STORY BROKE... number three...are you ready... everybody on the board needs to see the Outer Limits episode "THE HUMAN FACTOR" to find some very important pieces to our puzzle...study the episode in all aspects from character names to location, from plot specifics to onscreen visuals, & hang on tight! I saw the unedited episode on Crowley`s birthday, October 12 2006...note templar/masonic/magick related plot concepts...note lastly, that John, while stuck in american hotels from`64 to`66, was constantly watching t.v., and the Outer Limits was a program that referred to the Illuminati by name in another first season episode about TIME TRAVELLERS/MANIPATION starring Carroll O`Connor...IF JOHN DID KNOW ABOUT TAVISTOCK & THE ILLUMINATI EVEN BEFORE 1965.... PREPARE TO HAVE YOUR WORLD ROCKED OR YOUR MIND BLOWN IF YOU CATCH THIS EPISODE BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE AN ENTIRELY PROFOUND MEANING & AN ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE RELEVANCE TO OUR SUBJECT OF THE" ILL-OMEN-NAZIS"....PLEASE PRAY FOR ME & LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK...THANKS. LOVE PEACE TRUTH JUSTICE FOR ALL...O-U-T SPELLS OUT!!!
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Post by linktgf on Nov 6, 2006 21:36:09 GMT
Why do YOU think Shirley Temple appears 3 times on the album cover? because all the beatles made lists of famous people that they like and each one had shirley temple on it (Ringo didn't make a list) As I remember, George's picks were the gurus and John picked people such as Jesus and Hitler (Hitler being in an early proof, as well as someone else who was airbrushed out)
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Post by plastic paul on Nov 7, 2006 3:05:18 GMT
I reckon that's a bit naive to believe that Ringo chose no-one and John and George picked only the afforementioned, along with Shirley Temple, I understand that it was mentioned as if it worked that way, but I believe it was paraphrased.
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Post by linktgf on Nov 7, 2006 4:22:51 GMT
I think I have their entire lists somewhere - Ringo wasn't too interested in making a list and just said he was fine with whoever the others chose - George didn't choose only the gurus but he was definitely the one who listed them along with others - John's list was filled with alot of odd choices as I remember, alot of people that could have been taken as offensive (to some) I know Aleister Crowley was his choice and I think Lenny Bruce as well... Paul chose Mae West ...
/me goes to find my "Complete Beatles Chronicle" book
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Post by pleaspleaseme314 on Dec 17, 2006 13:18:54 GMT
Hey gang! Got some more stuff that I hope will "illuminate" your understanding further, but first I'd like to relate a recent personal incident : One night in late October, I was having a conversation with a friend about PID/Crowley/Illuminati manipulation of the Beatles where a mutual friend of ours was bartending. We were out on the patio alone & halfway through our conversation, this Ringwraith wannabe comes up a few feet behind us, complete with a black hooded sweatshirt on concealing his face & just stands there giving off really bad vibes until I yelled something directed at him; then he walked away. About 9 or 10 days later I went back to see my bartender friend; when I got to the bar, the friend who I had the talk with came out & said: "Oh my god, dude! Have you heard? Yotam (the bartender) hung himself last night!" (it may have even been at 5am, but it was definitely WEDNESDAY!!!) Two days later, it hit me- MY FRIEND COMMITED SUICIDE 40 YEARS TO THE DAY, OF THE POSSIBLE MURDER OF MCCARTNEY...11/9/06!!! I believe my friend was driven to suicide on that precise day, because the assholes who control the demons knew I loved him like a brother, and they wanted TO SCARE ME INTO SILENCE REGARDING THE BEATLES & THE ILLUMINATI!!! THE GUY IN THE HOODED SWEATSHIRT WAS ONE OF THEIR LOCAL SPIES!!! I'M NOT SCARED, THOUGH, JUST REALLY REALLY PISSED OFF...because of my work on PID and related subjects I am constantly being demonically attacked myself, but I have some very good methods of self-protection, so they go after the people I love, or create chaos in my life, or throw me into total despair to paralyze me...his suicide was was the negative peak in an extremely bad year for me; it happened in the same 60 day period that my glasses broke, I lost a wallet containing $600, & my powerchair broke down...in a future post, I'l tell you guys TRUTHFULLY more about myself & my own family's Freemasonic involvement...this subject is very close to home for me because of that fact... Now let's get to some more clues: in the final animated scene of Yellow Submarine, Head Meanie says to Blue Max: "Did I ever tell you that my grandfather was the Blue Bird of Happiness?" Anyone recall Shirley Temple's last film? Yep...it was THE BLUE BIRD!!! Not to mention that really cheesy Mac song "I'm A Bluebird"...the Illuminati crap also tells me that it wasn't coincidence that the 2 major movie soundtracks he did were "SPIES LIKE US" & "LIVE AND LET DIE"... I also found out while rereading David Icke that the Order of the Black Rose is located in CANADA!!! In my next post I'll explain how the MMT album & film are designed to be a massive Illuminati tip-off...until next time, TAKE CARE STAY AWARE & DON'T LET THEM MAKE YOU AFRAID, MY FRIENDS...THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. LOVE PEACE TRUTH JUSTICE ...O-U-T SPELLS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!
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