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Post by Uberkinder on Aug 4, 2003 14:36:37 GMT
At some point it's going to have to be a labirynth; there are just so many people posting now it would be even worse if it were all in one category.
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Post by newave on Aug 7, 2003 18:36:41 GMT
Has this "IBS" thing been confirmed by any of the Beatles? Sounds like total internet bull to me, because nor I or anyone I know has heard of it.
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Post by newave on Aug 7, 2003 23:29:13 GMT
No one has yet told me if it was confirmed he had IBS, which would leave me to believe that Paul McCartney never had it. This isn't the first I've asked and it was ignored...
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Post by Renee on Aug 7, 2003 23:34:07 GMT
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 8, 2003 2:42:16 GMT
The circumstantial evidence as I understand are the apparent diapers in "Help!" and his fluctuating weight before his death.
It has also been said that Yesterday is about his detiorating health.
I too urge more info on this matter to be posted.
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Post by SunKing on Aug 8, 2003 9:50:34 GMT
Name: David Wilmont, M.D. Date1/13/01 7:18:21 AM Email: painmanagement@doctor.com Subject: McCARTNEY'S DISEASE ...AND DEATH
The LIVING Paul McCartney suffered from severe symptoms of Irritable Bowell Syndrome. This causes cramping so intense as to require narcotic analgesics (codeine, oxycodone, morphine) to relieve intractable pain in the patient. McCartney's malady was so bad that occasionally, he could not eat. Another result of IBS is Explosive Diarrhea. Young McCartney changed underware constantly he would soil them so often. Not so with Mr. Campbell. Severe IBS sufferers are uniformly habituated to opioids to help control their condition. McCartney WAS. Today's "McCartney" is not. James Paul McCartney has truly passed on. There is no cure for IBS. He IS dead.
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Post by Chris on Aug 8, 2003 12:35:23 GMT
I have a milder form of IBS. Just bouncing back & forth between diarrhea & constipation, can drive a person to distraction. It's obvious that Paul is wearing something under his dungaries during Help !!! In some scenes his face looks swollen. This is not about IBS, but I feel it needs to be addressed. There is one scene in Help !!! that you can see the whole face of James Paul McCartney ( again, you have to acquire a copy from 1987 or earlier. I cannot attest that later copies haven't been tampered with ). It's the scene when he's leaving their flat. He's the 1st one out. The big bad guy tries to give him gold nuggets for the sacrificial ring. The girl next to him says that he's not the one with the ring. Paul turns to her & says " I'm not "... She says no, unfortunately & giggles. The camera then shows you a full frontal shot of Paul. He makes a face of consternation. You can see how flat his face was. How wide apart his eyes were. It's NOT the same face as the man who is Paul McCartney today. If you want to argue that age changes a person's face, then I'll say its' NOT the same face as Paul in Magical Mystery tour. He didn't have a mustache like he did in Sgt. Pepper's. So it's easier to make a comparison. Two different men, two different faces... We've been duped for almost 37 years. This totally sucks !!! However, it's the TRUTH !!!!! Love to all... Chris
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Post by AlexTheLrg on Aug 16, 2003 17:10:12 GMT
Is IBS what McCartney was supposed to have died from? From what I've read, it's not fatal.
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Post by pennylane on Aug 16, 2003 22:42:34 GMT
IBS was not what Killed Paul, it isn't fatal... according to the 601F document, it was a kidnapping attemt that went wrong..
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Post by PaulBearer on Aug 17, 2003 7:39:08 GMT
He didn't have access to his medication to keep it under control (presumably it was left behind in the car) and had a spasm and died. I think it was more than just plain IBS; Paul was severely poisoned in late 64 and I think it ate away one of his kidneys.
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Post by Chris on Aug 17, 2003 12:11:39 GMT
If you watch the Paperback writer video, you can see that Paul looks upset. I think he was very sick when they filmed that. None of them move around very much in it. Ringo looks downright depressed... This was filmed in 1966... Love to all... Chris
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Post by MotherNaureSon on Sept 17, 2003 13:34:37 GMT
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Post by RitaLolo on Oct 18, 2003 13:49:32 GMT
I have a hemorrhagic rectocolite since the age of 14 years today I in have 20. The symptoms that I have (diarrheas, stomach evil, hemorrhages, appetite loss) strong resemble to an IBS. This disease (cousin of the crohn) does not care for itself but medicines allow living with without too to be sick!!! today with a followed uniform with the doctor and a treatment to appropriate I can live to little meadows normally. I think that Paul had to have all simply a Crohn or a RCH. ...
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Post by yellowmatter on Oct 29, 2003 12:13:43 GMT
Apart from a few dubious clues i too don't see Paul having IBS. I do have an open mind on such matters however i have looked at the evidence presented and it just seems a bit unlikely that this fact isn't more widely known.
I would welcome more evidence on the matter
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Post by gracemer on Dec 11, 2003 6:12:12 GMT
My daughter has IBS. It is terribly painful and can cause diarrhea. She also uses a narcotic drug for the pain. I've never heard of anyone dying from IBS, but if someone developed an addiction to narcotics and then had them abruptly withdrawn....well. The shock of that alone could cause convulsions and death. He must have had quite a habit.
As for his fluctuating weight, didn't he smoke a lot of pot? Maybe the munchies got the better of him.
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Post by Perplexed on Dec 11, 2003 7:31:41 GMT
Well, of course, hard drugs can change the tissues in the face and voice, binge eating after pot can cause rapid weight gain; coke and meth can shrink someone away and flatten out the cheeks, the face, and weaken the voice, making it softer, weaker, over time.
Maybe 1966 was a high party year for JP---I'll say alledgedly possible. That could cover a lot of bases..........
Although--I tend to think he might have experimented with it, and gotten terribly terribly bored with it and just stopped. Again, just my opinion.
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Post by PaulBearer on Dec 11, 2003 9:52:34 GMT
But other famous people "experimented" to the extreme, yet the basic skull structure remains the same and they are still recognisable; for instance, The Rolling Stones.
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Post by Chris on Dec 11, 2003 23:39:39 GMT
;D To be honest, you have to consider their lifestyle. In England, Indian food is as popular as Chinese food is in the States. Vindaloo is a very popular Indian dish. It can be prepared VERY hot & spicy. You smoke enough pot, you DO get the mad munchies. If You LOVE Indian food ( which most English people do ), it's possible that you might overindulge in Indian food, most likely Vindaloo. Add to that the fact that you have a nasty case of IBS. All I can say is, EEEEEWWWWWW... That is NOT a pretty picture. It's very understandeable that you might get some raging stomachaches. It would also cause you to drop weight, not gain weight. Any weight gain would be caused by the use of the steroids to try to control the IBS... I have a photo of Paul that he looks like he has a REALLY bad stomachache. I will be posting it right after this. If I go & try to cut & paste the url, I lose what I've just written All I can say is, it's a bugger !!! Love to all.... Chris ;D
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Post by abbey on Dec 12, 2003 5:21:50 GMT
If Paul had IBS, could it cause vomiting? Hating to sound really gross, that could be why the lips and one side of his face was destroyed by animals....especially if he were bound and gagged. However, why do the Beatle songs always refer to a car accident? And what about Jane Asher? Why would she stay with Faul???
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Post by gracemer on Dec 12, 2003 8:01:09 GMT
IBS predominantly afflicts women, with the onset usually being late teens/early twenties. Interesting about the weight fluctuation. My daughter's never changes. She goes back & forth between constipation and diarrhea.
I'm for the poisoning scenario (from whatever source), and the resulting injury to his intestines being misdiagnosed as IBS. Unless....
there's many abdominal illnesses that doctors can't pinpoint without surgery. Who knows what he had really. Some of those things can kill ya if they're not caught.
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Post by Perplexed on Dec 12, 2003 8:51:58 GMT
Transient Ischemia of the bowels.
Blood supply is limited or cut off, intermittently from the intestines, (similar to when the heart has an attackand the blood supply to heart tissue is compromised or removed.) Blood clots, ateriosclerosis, or blunt trauma (say Houdini) can bring this about. Pain, discomfort, cramps, nausea, throwing up, eventually necrosis of tissue (death of intestines) can occur, requiring colostomy(removal of colon) or ileostomy(partial removal of ileum, or small intestine). Hard to diagnose without an exploratory laparotomy. Deadly, in a few days, without medical attention. My mother is a 13 year survivor of this somewhat untalked about condition. She lived for 9 days with this condition in the hospital before it was diagnosed. Very, very painful.
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Post by Curious on Dec 12, 2003 12:05:27 GMT
Chris, I suffer from IBS, have done so for 15 years. I've NEVER lost weight through it - in fact, I've gained weight quite dramatically, and can gain as much as 20lbs during a sever attack. I don't use steroids to control it - I've NEVER heard of that being the case. It's usually controlled by anti-spasmodics, and if they don't work, then strong painkillers, often opiates, are brought into play.
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Post by Darkhorse on Dec 13, 2003 3:08:11 GMT
Paul's favorite foods according to one publication were steak and cheese sandwiches and chips.
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Post by gracemer on Dec 13, 2003 4:42:00 GMT
He might have keeled over from a heart attack before reaching 40 if he ate like that!
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Post by Darkhorse on Dec 13, 2003 20:19:13 GMT
He might have keeled over from a heart attack before reaching 40 if he ate like that! Yeah really! Not the healthiest of diets. This article featured Ringo's favorite foods also and they were very similar to JP's.
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