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Post by googoo on Jan 10, 2004 2:32:23 GMT
    The one of Brian is taken from here. I can't verify it's authenticity. I snagged it because it's huge and clearly detailed. Obviously I had to rotate it and this may cause some distortion to the image, besides any sagging of his features due to leaning his head back. But I think regardless of all that, it's obvious that the ears of these men are quite different. |
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Post by Fwings on Jan 10, 2004 9:18:06 GMT
Ears, nose, and eyes are all remarkably different. You know, I would say they did a better job with Frian's plastic surgery than Bill's, but then Frian was only on the scene for a very short time.
I only wish we had more information on Frian. Who was he? Was he really killed or did they tuck him away in a safe place? He obviously exists, but I'm starting to feel Brian's pain more and more. We're getting closer to proving the truth about Paul and Bill, but it seems like we've gotten nowhere with Brian.
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Post by Perplexed on Jan 11, 2004 10:03:00 GMT
Also, from the hairline to the front of the head on Brian it makes a neat SQUARE. From the hairline to the fron the the forehead on rian it makes a definite RECTANGLE.
GEOMETRY!!!, oh my people!
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Post by Perplexed on Jan 11, 2004 10:07:26 GMT
Brian's features are more delicate and small, less carved. Frian, who is actually handsomer, has heavier features, larger eye sockets,and a much tighter neckline.
Brian's neckline, in other photos too, sags a little bit, not much, but that out of shape kind of sag. Frian has more tone in his facial muscles, and a more in and out hairline, denser darker hair oh for heavens sakes nobody would think these were 2 pix of the same guy.
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Post by The Taxman on Aug 18, 2004 17:32:39 GMT
It is entirely possible but not completely necessary for the Cover Team to use a double for Brian as well as Paul. If the kidnapping scenario is true and I believe it is at least mostly true (still need the names of the girls involved) to the point that Paul and Brian were involved by accident being that Brian was the target with the suspicion that Brian had the claim on the Beatle's money...during that time they had none of the mmillions they would later enjoy, being that Brian sold off rights to their work and appearances for the sake of immediate cash (Sullivan's show paid $10,000 for an appearance that was worth $25,000. Elvis got $50,000 for ten minutes...so you can see that the fellows were getting ripped.) So, I am ready to believe that the IRA was involved probably on contract but not being used to that sort of thing they bungled it and ended up killing them. Anyway, the possibilities are there. But what about keeping Brian's body fronm decomposing until ready to be "discovered"?
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Post by SunKing on Aug 18, 2004 20:59:01 GMT
It is entirely possible but not completely necessary for the Cover Team to use a double for Brian as well as Paul. If the kidnapping scenario is true and I believe it is at least mostly true (still need the names of the girls involved) to the point that Paul and Brian were involved by accident being that Brian was the target with the suspicion that Brian had the claim on the Beatle's money...during that time they had none of the mmillions they would later enjoy, being that Brian sold off rights to their work and appearances for the sake of immediate cash (Sullivan's show paid $10,000 for an appearance that was worth $25,000. Elvis got $50,000 for ten minutes...so you can see that the fellows were getting ripped.) So, I am ready to believe that the IRA was involved probably on contract but not being used to that sort of thing they bungled it and ended up killing them. Anyway, the possibilities are there. But what about keeping Brian's body fronm decomposing until ready to be "discovered"? Exactly. |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Aug 25, 2004 21:23:37 GMT
  .... just a "Frian's ear fiasco" ... |
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Post by Mad John on Jan 12, 2005 23:44:21 GMT
I am confused. What ever happened to Frian? What is the exact date that Brain was killed?
And for what reason was this done?
Love,
Mad John
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Post by PaulBearer on Jan 13, 2005 5:48:34 GMT
Brian was killed about the same time as Paul. The original story was that Paul & Brian were both in the car when they were kidnapped and that Brian was actually the target, not Paul. They (perhaps the KKK or whoever they represent) needed a sacrifice to their god for the jewish new year (which was Sept 14th-15 in 1966). "JUDE" was found painted onto the side of the abandoned car hence the inspiration for "Hey Jude". It was tragic that Paul was in the car at the same time; deprived of his medication which he needed for his failing health (partly or even fully brought on by being poisoned in late 64) he died pretty quickly. Under this story, Paul's death was possibly accidental or unnecessary.
There have been other variations to the story that have come out since however, such as Paul was deliberately killed and that Brian actualyl had a tragedy in a plane soon after; however I am suspicious of these other variations; for me, the first story still holds true.
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Post by Mad John on Jan 13, 2005 6:18:36 GMT
But when did Frian die? Was Frian around in 1966?
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Post by PaulBearer on Jan 13, 2005 7:34:15 GMT
Frian was around in late '66. Brian was relatively easy to replace compared to Paul. We're not sure that Frian really died but rather that the death was faked so that Frian could disappear from the scene and go back to his own life or perhaps start a new one? There's some reference to running off to sea and joining the navy somewhere as I recall but it may not be referring to Frian. This is my speculation.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 2, 2005 11:47:10 GMT
Don Knotts performed Faux-Brian Epstein For sure.
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Post by TPIMaster on Sept 2, 2005 14:41:38 GMT
I can't see what you're seeing...
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Sept 2, 2005 14:50:33 GMT
well, I do admit that the nose, eyes, mouth, and chin are very very similar.
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Post by TPIMaster on Sept 2, 2005 14:54:28 GMT
His ear is almost double the size of Frian.
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Post by TheDZ on Sept 2, 2005 15:37:57 GMT
I did a little compare for my own amusement and the
ears are exactly the same size...
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Post by TPIMaster on Sept 2, 2005 15:46:45 GMT
What about the giant earlobe?
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Post by TheDZ on Sept 2, 2005 16:10:53 GMT
Don Knotts has a detached earlobe and Frian an attached one.
We've all seen the ear makeup work done to Bill,
perhaps a little tape and filler..
The only caveat is the apparent ear positions...
Although that may be a difference in camera angles..
just my 2 cents
a stunning similarity to my eyes..
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Post by Red Lion on Sept 2, 2005 17:07:05 GMT
Don Knotts performed Faux-Brian Epstein For sure. Good work BP, no question about this one! Maybe you should get a voiceprint on Andy Griffith, he was most probably a vocal imitator. |
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Post by defhermit on Sept 2, 2005 23:14:51 GMT
Brian Epstein was replaced by Don Knotts?
F*cking Don Knotts, man... <some movie quite... I forget which movie>
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 3, 2005 0:52:22 GMT
Brian Epstein was replaced by Don Knotts? F*cking Don Knotts, man... <some movie quite... I forget which movie>  YESGood work BP, no question about this one! Maybe you should get a voiceprint on Andy Griffith, he was most probably a vocal imitator. Yes I think so. He worked with Foris Day on Move Over, Darling (1963). Was he from the same Foris' agency of lookalike/imitators?  |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 3, 2005 9:38:32 GMT
  EXPOSED!Well, now we all know that Don Knotts was the man who performed Faux-Brian Epstein. And now we start to understand WHAT the presence of the White Volkswagen on Abbey Road and on the White Album poster meant.... |
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 3, 2005 11:41:39 GMT
Now at last I understand everything, sadly. It's because of this man: www.strangecelebrities.com/images/content/106178.JPGwww.timmollen.com/comedy_sketches/knotts_in_space_sketch.htmIt's all coming clear now. We are part of an alien invasion------where Entities from the planet Zortan came with their leader, Don Knotts, to take over the internet. Which is why we have web sites devoted to Knotts Landing, and Knott's Berry Farm, Knott-Stalgia, Knott E. Baby, Knee O. Knottzi's, and Knotts in Whotte Sottin. Yes, never reaching the end. Am I in this for laughs? Knott so much. Is this post over? Yes, and Knott a second too soon. Except: BP--now you've lost me. You had, pretty well, until this. Don Knotts as Frian Epstein? OK there are interesting similarities between the two. But actually one and the same? My turn I guess. I am Knott seeing what your seeing. Age, cranial dome mismatched, and scowl lines too exagerated in Knotts to hide for Frian's smooth, 28-ish complexion. Body---too compact. Eyes--too popped out (yet wonderfully comic) for Frian's reserved, taciturn eyes. Call me blind, call me closed minded, just don't call me Phyllis. |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 3, 2005 13:36:11 GMT
BP--now you've lost me. You had, pretty well, until this. Don Knotts as Frian Epstein? OK there are interesting similarities between the two. But actually one and the same? Absolutely yes. Not about "similiarities". |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 3, 2005 20:31:29 GMT
Well I'm with Phyllis - er - I mean Perplexed. It's not that I don't see the resemblence, it's just too OBVIOUS. I mean, if I were going to replace Brian, I wouldn't replace him with someone who, whenever anyone saw him, they would say, "Say! Isn't that Don Knotts?!" And "Herbie Goes to Monte Carlo" came out years after Abbey Road. (Maybe it's a CLUE!  ) The "Love Bug" went out on 1968. |
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