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Post by Mollymalone on Nov 18, 2003 11:23:22 GMT
One of the forms Shakti can take is that of Kali...funny you should mention heads: webonautics.com/mythology/shakti4.htmlKali is described as holding a head in her left hand and with lots of blood
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Post by LUCY on Nov 18, 2003 17:10:01 GMT
another thing. i'm not sure whether this has been already covered or not but... doesn't the bottom of this candle have a pic of paul?? i'd swear it looks like paul!! it has the moptop, the black suit and the tie... and the eyes closed... ... thanks LJ. it looks more like a ceramic head with a bowler hat to me w/ a magnifying glass. please note the third eye buldge on the bust figure! who is it?
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Post by JoJo on Nov 18, 2003 21:38:41 GMT
I had this posted in a weird thread in the guest section, (still do actually) but it may belong here maybe? It's the "mirror thing" done with the blond woman at the right. (I forget her name)
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Post by LUCY on Nov 19, 2003 2:41:51 GMT
off topic? "Student: There is an eye, not the physical eye for seeing, but the eye for inner seeing, “the third eye.” This name was attributed to the inner seeing by the elders in association to using insight or the spiritual light, which as exercised by man in the beginning. Student: Ancient spiritual healers, learned men, teachers and loyal devotees of mystic schools also had knowledge of the third eye and the light it has been identified under such names as: a virtue, vital energy, invisible antenna, and a stream of vital power, cosmic energy. Student: I just been reading about it. The third eye is your insight or inner sense that all men were born with, but most have never exercised. This is the sleeping power that one must strengthen. When the third eye is used, the entire body is consumed with light, meaning the etheric body and the physical body alike are attuned with each other Student: All throughout the scriptures, references are made to the third eye, not the physical eye. This is the power that resides within every man that lies dormant waiting for the proper channels to be activated, so that this power can become active. This is a power that must be exercised through meditation, proper diet, discipline and certain daily rituals, which will attune you with your natural supreme state in which man was created" www.zen-forum.com/i13/g2002/j08/h1/
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Post by MotherNaureSon on Nov 19, 2003 8:07:08 GMT
I can't see the face you mention
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Post by Eggman on Nov 21, 2003 18:24:01 GMT
I can't see the face you mention Personaly I see Paul's face profile below in the candle, near the floor.
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Post by Mollymalone on Nov 25, 2003 11:29:13 GMT
I'm still ploughing through this abum cover ;D Tyrone Power and Marlene Dietrich are both on the cover and both appeared in the above film. Is it purely coincidental that the film is called witness for the prosecution? Referring to a crime having being committed? Is the sgt Pepper cover the 'witness'? Are some of the people on it there for their names giving clues to who is behind the crime? POWER...TEMPLE?
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Post by SunKing on Nov 25, 2003 11:33:20 GMT
I'm still ploughing through this abum cover ;D Tyrone Power and Marlene Dietrich are both on the cover and both appeared in the above film. Is it purely coincidental that the film is called witness for the prosecution? Referring to a crime having being committed? Is the sgt Pepper cover the 'witness'? Are some of the people on it there for their names giving clues to who is behind the crime? POWER...TEMPLE? Yes.
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Post by Mollymalone on Nov 25, 2003 12:00:48 GMT
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Post by Mollymalone on Nov 25, 2003 15:04:41 GMT
Ok...this is a little disjointed because references are turning up as I dig deeper. I've been looking at the secret societies angle and any clues on the cover, or with any other recurring themes with the beatles: There are many references to 'Mary' - as in the catholic Mary. There are two Mary's ( ;D) in the new testament - Mary, the mother of Jesus and Mary Magdalene the reformed prostitute, who was the first to see the RESURRECTED Jesus. (how relevant is that? two marys and a resurrection ;D) I don't know the beatles and their material but I know there is 'Lady Madonna' and 'Let it BE- "Mother Mary comes to me" Are there any more references to Mary? Marlene Dietrich's real name is 'Maria Magadelene' Maria being spanish for Mary and the Magadelene is obviously Magdelene The Knights Templars (shirley temple?) built catherdrals that became shrines dedicated to 'Our Lady'. One such 'temple' was Chartres Cathedral which according to some, was a centre for worship of the 'Black Madonna. At Chartres they have a window featuring the 'Rose Of France' with Mary in the centre. The RED ROSE is symbolic of the goddess and so we have the Rosicrucians with their red rose and cross symbols. So a BLACK rose would be the Black Madonna? So the three red roses and one black rose in the Magical Mystery tour video(?) could be tied to this symbolism too? Also, Catholic rosary beads are said to copied from the 'rosary of the mantras' worn by the Indian destroyer goddess Kali as seen in the images in my earlier post
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Post by Mollymalone on Nov 25, 2003 16:11:57 GMT
Edgar Allan Poe:
So here, possibly, we have Poe, Freemasons and decapitation
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Post by Mollymalone on Nov 25, 2003 16:20:44 GMT
This is getting really weird We know at the end of one of the Beatles tracks there is the phrase 'Number 9' well read this
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Post by Mollymalone on Nov 25, 2003 16:43:36 GMT
This excerpt mentions Marilyn Monroe and CARDBOARD CUTOUTS and is quite relevant, one of the people on the cover worked with Kubrick but I can't remember which one.
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Post by Mollymalone on Nov 26, 2003 12:02:11 GMT
More 'Marys' - Mae West was born MAry Jane West and Diana Dors was born Diana Mary.
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Post by DayTripper on Nov 26, 2003 13:41:18 GMT
another thing. i'm not sure whether this has been already covered or not but... doesn't the bottom of this candle have a pic of paul?? i'd swear it looks like paul!! it has the moptop, the black suit and the tie... and the eyes closed... And.... doesn't that look like a skull up above him?
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Post by TotalInformation on Dec 1, 2003 7:27:29 GMT
Excellent connection on Number Nine there, Molly.
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Post by Mollymalone on Dec 3, 2003 10:27:17 GMT
Cheers Totalinformation ;D
I've had a nagging thought going through my head for a couple of weeks now....The grandmother doll that the Shirley Temple doll is sitting on....could it be a real person in a costume? I don't know why it would be...but I get the feeling someone is in it...what do you think? ;D And the Diana dors figure is looking directly at the grandmother and shirley temple doll.
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Post by Mollymalone on Dec 3, 2003 10:41:14 GMT
The mexican candle stick on the album cover. Why is it there? Here's an image of another mexican candle stick : www.mexicanceramic.com/arbol/arboljuan.htmDon't you think that it resembles the sgt Pepper cover in it's elements? - the figures, the flowers, the layers? Is that a clue to reading the cover? From the bottom up? Or could that be turn the cover upside down? And is it a clue to a similar biblical story?
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Post by Perplexed on Dec 4, 2003 7:53:13 GMT
There is a whitish-light area right above the red-pink flowers below the candle. This area is just below the Candlestick.
I see his left profile, eyes shut, in repose, laying in the flowers. He looks prepped for a funeral. His head is at that slight angle as if it was propped up slightly by a casket pillow.
Real subliminal country here.
And Candlestick---Candlestick Park??? Did something happen at the last concert?
Is this a rebus?Picture of candlestick + picture of something else and on and on ,ight make a sentence, like this one:
STR + 8 + 10 Up arrow & picture of bird in flight Right arrow
REBUS interp: Straighten Up and Fly Right.
Pictures that make a sentence.
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Post by Mollymalone on Dec 4, 2003 11:13:42 GMT
Another 'theme' that has been going through my head is the TAROT. Every time someone mentions 'the fool on the hill' I think of the Fool tarot card. Plus the Sgt Pepper album cover is possibly full of symbolism, as are the tarot cards. The five petaled flower arrangement for example- does have symbology in the tarot:http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/6581/chronostarot.html
The four or five magicians in MM tour, could refer to the Magician Card in tarot.
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Post by Mollymalone on Dec 4, 2003 11:14:42 GMT
OMG..yes, Perplexed, I can see it now ;D
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Post by Mollymalone on Dec 4, 2003 11:19:58 GMT
Ok.. back to the Mary's: This is a theme that runs through the 'Holy Blood and the Holy Grail'... please read it ;)http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:558X7zAomTgJ:www.aniwilliams.com/magdalene.htm+five+petalled+flower+and+tarot&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
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Post by Mollymalone on Dec 4, 2003 11:36:01 GMT
I know some of you may be thinking this is all crap...but there is a theory that the 'Holy Grail' is in fact, the children and descendants of Jesus and Mary Magdelene. And that secret societies have been aware of this and have protected the secret. Were the Beatles involved in secret societies? Did they know of the Grail? were they silenced? Did they leave clues to the grail secret? I'm beginning to think so: www.aniwilliams.com/magdalena.htmIs this picture in connection with Mary Magdalene a coincidence? Bearing in mind the egg references in the Beatles material? And the Egg trophy on Sgt Pepper? And THIS Familiar letters to Beatles fans, but here standing for Mary Magdalene "Merovingian grail watermark with fruit of the vine or royal bloodline of MM "
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Post by Mollymalone on Dec 4, 2003 12:22:10 GMT
Just found this
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Post by Mollymalone on Dec 8, 2003 10:26:04 GMT
The W goes from the palm tree on the left to the palm onthe left of the drum, to the palm (hand) above Faul's head, to the palm on the right side of the drum to the palm on the right side of the cover. Coincidence? Plus 'W' is an upside-down 'M'
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