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Post by defhermit on May 6, 2005 16:09:09 GMT
that pic you posted of Viv with his wife in 1980, where he is like "guffawing" with laughter?
that ain't Bill... I don't care how many fat injections you get...
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Post by cavendish on May 6, 2005 16:18:18 GMT
He's wearing the fake teeth that Bill used for his impersonation in MMT. I'm with you on this one, def. After looking at all of these photos, I'm having a hard time believing that Bill took over Viv's life. At this point, I honestly don't know WHAT to believe  |
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Post by abbey on May 6, 2005 17:22:30 GMT
Just a thought: Could Viv/Bill have had a twin brother, not just the brother shown with the family. Could Bill have lived two separate lives? The only way he could accomplish that would be with the assistance, approval and help of the British government  I am as confused as Cavendish...... BTW could his daughter have been the so=called Nicola on MMT? Also, did anyone notice that hairy chest. There is a picture of Bill taken on the farm in Scotland that shows him with a hairy chest.....I will see if I can find it and include it in here later....except Viv's is red and Bill's is black. A small note here, Paul did NOT have a hairy chest. Questions, questions, always more questions....wait what was that bit about Paul McCartney as Apollo C Vermouth? ?? |
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Post by BeatlePaul on May 7, 2005 0:27:39 GMT
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Post by BeatlePaul on May 7, 2005 0:29:47 GMT
that pic you posted of Viv with his wife in 1980, where he is like "guffawing" with laughter? that ain't Bill... I don't care how many fat injections you get...  Have you ever heard about dentures? ;D |
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Post by BeatlePaul on May 7, 2005 7:56:48 GMT
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Post by abbey on May 9, 2005 13:59:29 GMT
Is it possible that Bill and Viv are related? There is a definite resemblance between the two. I don't see how Bill could have lived two separate lives, nor been married to two separate women. Isn't that called bigamy? And isn't bigamy illegal? Since we don't know Bill's background, which has no doubt be erased as much as possible, could Bill and Viv be twin brothers? Cousins?
I see your point about why "Paul" decided to become a painter. Didn't he do this in the 80's or so? He said he'd never tried before because of John......yeah, blame someone who is unable to make a retort. He was afraid he wasn't as good as Lennon, but now finds he has wonderful talent!
Too bad we don't have anyone working in Canadian government offices who could do a little undercover research about the birth and "death" of Bill Shepherd/Campbell and see if he had any brothers, cousins, nephews that bore a very strong resemblance to him.
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Post by BeatlePaul on May 10, 2005 9:27:26 GMT
No one has noticed that at the center top of the wall there is a "Faul" mask. |
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Post by Michelle66 on May 10, 2005 9:41:15 GMT
No one has noticed that at the center top of the wall there is a "Faul" mask. And Superman...  |
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Post by BeatlePaul on May 10, 2005 11:09:15 GMT
And Superman...  Was Bill/Viv the author of Magical Mystery Tour Comics ...then ? |
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Post by Michelle66 on May 10, 2005 12:48:34 GMT
Was Bill/Viv the author of Magical Mystery Tour Comics ...then ? The man who draw those comics is Bob Gibson. This is another example of his work.  "Each Beatle disguised as a famous person ..." Paul is a crying Hamlet (talking to a skull). |
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Post by abbey on May 10, 2005 13:57:37 GMT
Excellent find, Michelle! The picture didn't come through for me, but you did find the MMT comics' author. Why would Viv have a "Paul" mask? Wait is that the one worn in Free as a Bird video where it was obvious Paul's face was a mask and not the real person? |
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Post by defhermit on May 10, 2005 17:57:13 GMT
The man who draw those comics is Bob Gibson. This is another example of his work. "Each Beatle disguised as a famous person ..." Paul is a crying Hamlet (talking to a skull). John is Groucho Marx Ringo is Charlie Chaplin Paul is Hamlet George is Charles Manson? strange choices, huh? am I wrong about George, is he supposed to be someone else? Charles Manson is the only one who is not a fictional character? Paul/Hamlet is the only one who is not a real person of some sort? Yeah I know Groucho and Charlie (the tramp) are essentially fictional characters too but they were known as their characters primarily, making them basically real people. edit: perhaps George is supposed to be Rasputin? I guess so, with the vodka (russian)... edit#2: wow am I stupid... like most of the public, I didn't notice the backwards messages... |
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Post by plastic paul on May 10, 2005 23:27:11 GMT
Lol yes that is rasputin, and no (whether the mask represents it or not) it is certainly not the type of mask u put on your face. It is a "half face"profile mask, i certainly wouldn't pinpoint it as actually being a paul/faul mask but it remains a possibility. Going back to rasputin, from memory he was nicknamed the "mad monk", he was very religious, made predictions, told people what they didnt like to hear and "died" more than once. That certainly sounds like george - speaks his mind, religious and perhaps, without speculating too much told people stuff they didn't want to know eg. he always looked at faul with some contempt, even years after, eg. circa 95 when they met up again on anthology etc perhaps he let bill know what he thought of him, plus he was stabbed fairly badly but survived, many lives? I dont know thats purely conjecture but it kinda makes sense, id love to know when those pics were drawn (probz contemporary to MMT) but if they were drawn post georges death, i repeat it kinda makes sense |
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Post by LovelyJulia on May 10, 2005 23:42:58 GMT
Hmm doesn't actually seem convincing. I don't see how Viv could possibly be Faul in the movie. Faul may impersonate Paul well but this seems a bit of a stretch.
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Post by BeatlePaul on May 11, 2005 8:25:15 GMT
No one has noticed that behind "Hamlet Paul" someone is digging a grave.....  The author "hand" seem to be a little different. |
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Post by Michelle66 on May 11, 2005 8:56:13 GMT
I dont know thats purely conjecture but it kinda makes sense, id love to know when those pics were drawn (probz contemporary to MMT) but if they were drawn post georges death, i repeat it kinda makes sense I think they were drawn in 1968, but I will tell you exactly as soon as I've controlled. |
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Post by cavendish on May 11, 2005 14:54:59 GMT
I think it's very possible that Bob Gibson did author the MMT comics. BP, do you have an example of Viv's artwork that you feel "illustrates" that he is indeed the author of the MMT comics Argh, Argh ;D  |
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Post by defhermit on May 11, 2005 18:06:57 GMT
No one has noticed that behind "Hamlet Paul" someone is digging a grave..... That's just part of that scene in Hamlet. He is holding the skull because he meets the gravedigger who is digging (or was he robbing I don't quite remember) the grave of Yorick... |
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Post by plastic paul on May 11, 2005 19:13:47 GMT
If this is the same fella that drew the MMT comics then perhaps there are some hidden clues. Not just the obvious ones ie. Map alignment etc.
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on May 11, 2005 19:50:18 GMT
Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow
of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath
borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how
abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rims at
it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know
not how oft. Where be your gibes now? your
gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment,
that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one
now, to mock your own grinning? quite chap-fallen?
Now get you to my lady's chamber, and tell her, let
her paint an inch thick, to this favour she must
come; make her laugh at that. Prithee, Horatio, tell
me one thing.
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Post by Michelle66 on May 12, 2005 6:28:52 GMT
Bob Gibson drew the cartoon quiz in 1968.
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Post by BeatlePaul on May 20, 2005 11:39:13 GMT
 Pay attention to BOTH pictures ..... and you will find that... |
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Post by plastic paul on May 20, 2005 11:52:42 GMT
BP thats the best example yet, most interesting.......
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Post by cavendish on May 20, 2005 14:40:42 GMT
It is very interesting. All I can say is that if he WAS Vivian Stanshall all along, he was a bigamist. Check out this website: www.gingergeezer.net/home.htmlThere are many photos there of Viv, his wife & daughter. |
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