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Post by abbey on Mar 25, 2005 17:33:11 GMT
I am still in the process of researching this. I am far from convinced that it is indeed a "spoof"
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Post by abbey on May 20, 2005 17:08:16 GMT
ERIC FERIC ERIC FERIC ERIC FERIC ERIC FERIC ERIC FERIC ERIC FERIC ERIC FERIC More coming, stay tuned
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Post by abbey on May 20, 2005 17:51:01 GMT
When I was going back over these pictures, it appeared that in some Eric's nose looked bent a bit to the right while Feric has a bump in his...... ?? Maybe it was just that particular photo or maybe not. It made it easier to replace Eric because he was already wearing the beard and longer hair and so Feric could have a bit of plastic surgery and it was less discernible
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Post by TheDZ on May 21, 2005 1:07:49 GMT
Good stuff Sister Mary! Listen to the guitar on While my Guitar Gently Weeps. Guitarheads should note that this is a truly excellent performance by Eric. What a great lead guitar player! Blues doesn't quite encompass it. Here's a link to a french website that has loads of pics, with some video and audio as well. ericclapton.free.fr/and a link to an mp3 I thought was rather revealing.... ecvideos.free.fr/beck_clapton_crossroads_cweal.mp3Jeff Beck lays it down like only he can and Eric? comes in with sloppy pentatonic scales... Huh? If that was a duel then Jeff slapped that guy silly and then gave him an atomic wedgie.;D Check out the videos on that site too, quite revealing as to Eric's? mediocrity. Eric Clapton was a guitar genius, but the guy who plays Eric Clapton today is not. When did the change come? It came when the lead guitar player/vocalist became a vocalist/rhythm player with a dependancy on pentatonic scales.SG to Strat?. The drug thing is good way to cover, no? Just like with the Beatles.... Sorry to have momentarily played the devil's advocate, but we have to do more than speculate...we have to anticipate the reactions and respond to them. Kudo's to SMA for sticking to this. Too bad about that ding dong Floydfan though Psyche!! Sister, Cream disbanded in November 1968. Eric performed on Rock and Roll Circus in November/December 1968. White Album was released in November 1968. I believe the guy with the afro is Eric. And that Yer Blues on the White Album is Winston Leg-thy and The Dirty Mac... After that ... (F)Eric, like Faul , does not live up to the legend. Definitely worth investigating IMO
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Post by TheDZ on May 22, 2005 6:49:32 GMT
Derek and the Dominoes is still Eric.... Jimi Hendrix dies.... ...so after that...Duane Allman gone too...at age 24 in Oct. 1971. Shortly after/around the demise of Derek and the Dominoes is when Eric goes. IMO.
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Post by cavendish on May 23, 2005 15:45:12 GMT
DeZom, thanks for the info. Sometimes, it's hard to tell with the photos. Eric was definitley a smaller man than Feric. Just like Paul was a smaller man than Bill is. As far as talent goes, I'll take your word for it. I also belive that this whole subject is VERY worthy of further investigation. In fact, I've seen photos that say Eric Clapton, but don't look like Eric or Feric. Maybe SMA can post a few
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Post by TheDZ on May 23, 2005 19:17:53 GMT
DeZom, thanks for the info. Sometimes, it's hard to tell with the photos. Eric was definitley a smaller man than Feric. Just like Paul was a smaller man than Bill is. As far as talent goes, I'll take your word for it. I also belive that this whole subject is VERY worthy of further investigation. In fact, I've seen photos that say Eric Clapton, but don't look like Eric or Feric. Maybe SMA can post a few We should keep in mind what the Faul Operation has shown us.... Plastic surgery, temporary facial modifications and makeup can and do cause a persons looks to be difficult to pin down. Also , more than one impersonator could have been used in the beginning . We need to study timelines in order to establish certain things. Clapton was in... The Yardbirds John Mayalls BluesBreakers Cream Eric Clapton and the Powerhouse Plastic Ono Band Blind Faith Delaney and Bonnie Derek and the Dominos Listening to the guitar playing tells me this( I'm listening to a bootleg of Derek and the Dominos [Fillmore Double Night]) Articulate and expressive guitar(tone!), excellent vocals. Great Band! Now 461 Ocean Boulevard and after is a different story... Sim-Eric of today sings differently than Eric did. His voice is lower and of an inferior tonal quality. Sim-Eric also does a growl sound that Eric never did. just to clarify.. these are the real Eric. Clapton influenced large numbers of potential guitar players because that boy could really play....but don't just take my word for it... type in 'beano album' on google/google image search. Listening to a boot of the Sim-Cream reunion concert earlier this month, I know that Feric blows. Stevie Ray Vaughn once commented that Eric really knew where he was going when he played lead. Feric doesn't have a clue...poor sod. Really Really Dead should do some face comparisons.... Are you listening...RRD?
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Post by cavendish on May 23, 2005 20:04:37 GMT
1st off, it's obvious that the eye orbits were closer together on Eric than they are on Feric. As BP has made abundantly clear, eye orbits do NOT change. Eric's eyes were NOTICEABLY closer together than Feric's are. That makes their situation the opposite of Paul & Bill. If I know SMA, there will be more photo comparison's coming in the near future.
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Post by peoplescommittee on Jun 1, 2005 18:48:38 GMT
Somehow, I don't see a difference. With Paul, there's an immediate difference. With Clapton, I see the same man who rocked hard and made that guitar wail its ass off on "Layla" today.
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Post by TheDZ on Jun 1, 2005 21:23:41 GMT
Somehow, I don't see a difference. With Paul, there's an immediate difference. With Clapton, I see the same man who rocked hard and made that guitar wail its ass off on "Layla" today. Quoting myself peoplescommittee , most people don't see what we see about Paul/Faul....You yourself are 'on the fence' right? Time reveals the details to our awareness, and then we come to understanding the truth. This process requires time and study. Not to mention an open mind... If we steadfastly refuse to consider what we ourselves deem as too fantastic to be true, then we are bound to miss big parts of the picture... Provocative OperationLateral ThinkingLearning the truth requires that skepticism be put in it's proper place. BTW I've played/built/repaired guitars off and on for over 20 years now. I have some knowledge of 'style' and I would certainly like to know why Eric abandoned his. The clear connections to the Beatles and other facts have caused some to speculate that Eric was killed and replaced because of his knowledge. Quoting TKIN/60IF Feric (like Faul), inspires me to yawn, but the real thing inspires me to play. What's up with that...? Seems too familiar...
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Post by defhermit on Jun 1, 2005 22:14:12 GMT
anglo-centric behind-the-scenes power dealers usurp rock icons that conform to the pro-anglo beliefs that they hold, keeping them in the spotlight past their prime... ones that are anglo but don't go along get replaced, ones that don't go along AND aren't anglo get killed....
see, I can be cryptic too....
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Post by TotalInformation on Jun 3, 2005 2:01:42 GMT
good point. even if the doppelganger is French-Canadian, he plays an anglo on tv. I think it's the Fair Isle sweater that does it.
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Post by TheDZ on Jun 3, 2005 7:02:32 GMT
AHa... Thanks Total www.fairisle.org.uk/Crafts/arts_crafts.htmThis probably belongs on another thread though.... Defhermit you certainly succeeded at the cryptic part Would the real Eric Clapton use Lace Sensors at any point in his existence? Oops I crypticated again....Please help this poor guitar guy... Too much Eric Crapton is bad for you! ;D
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Post by defhermit on Jun 3, 2005 16:23:45 GMT
what are Lace Sensors?
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Post by TheDZ on Jun 6, 2005 6:26:52 GMT
Sorry def, Lace Sensors are electric guitar pickups. I understand if electric guitar minutea are a bit esoteric ;D Lace Sensors are marketing hype in action.... Thin enameled copper wire wrapped around magnets. You would think they discovered the Holy Grail by the way they go on about their products. No wait that's what they called one of their models.... The Holy GrailPut those babies in your axe and the Holy Spirit shall flow through you! Hallelujah! I haven't heard these ones but their older stuff is junk IMO
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Post by defhermit on Jun 6, 2005 16:51:14 GMT
Ah... I've never been enough of a guitar freak to learn about the new and exciting guitar parts... I'm always like "I still haven't heard a guitar player better than Hendrix, so those pickups must have been just fine".....
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Post by TheDZ on Jun 6, 2005 21:25:40 GMT
Yeah , I've arrived at the same conclusion . The stuff designed by Leo Fender and Seth Lover ( Gibson ) still works the best today, because it was designed to work with the tube/valve driven amplifiers of the time. Vintage design sounds better, more organic. More inspiring. IMO Clapton knew this, heck he pioneered that sound, along with Jimi. Both gone , such a shame.
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Post by TheDZ on Jun 15, 2005 19:41:49 GMT
www3.telus.net/public/bene8/Eric%20at%20Apple%20Opening.aviA short clip of Eric at the Apple Boutique opening .. and a pic of Real Eric from Derek and the Dominoes bootleg Fillmore Double Night The other guys pic on that bootleg... Derek and the Dominoes covered Little Wing shorly after Jimi's death. The bootleg sleeve tells of how Eric had bought Jimi some lefty Fender Stratocasters to play and was going to meet up with Jimi at a concert. Jimi didnt show and died that night, supposedly after aspirating vomit after a binge...
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Post by peoplescommittee on Jun 23, 2005 23:10:22 GMT
What I'd like to know is who the hell Marisa, Luigi, and Dalida are. And if Eric was added, then that was quite an idiotic thing to do. That's one thing I've noticed lately...every time a new angle has been brought up, before there's even any concrete proof, it's been automatically added to the 60IF summary. Hopefully, the document won't be as interchangeable.
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Post by TheDZ on Jun 24, 2005 9:44:23 GMT
This is OT but may I ask, peoplescommitee, are you plural, like SunKing was, or singular like BeatlePaul is?
Just curious....
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Post by peoplescommittee on Jul 4, 2005 15:00:31 GMT
What does that mean? I have serious doubts when unproven angles or angles with little evidence to support them are then presented as fact.
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Post by TheDZ on Jul 9, 2005 13:21:16 GMT
I have a few points to make.. 1. This is an investigation in progress. 2. The process is unfinished. 3. It takes time to process evidence. 4. I'm one person. 5. Your heckling is useless. 6. You've been hinting since your arrival who you actually are. 7. I know why you use a proxy. 8. This is Dalida9. This is Marisa10. This thread is about Eric Clapton. If you have legitimate questions, I'll do my best, otherwise....
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Post by peoplescommittee on Jul 16, 2005 23:53:37 GMT
1. I understand that. Our (the People's Committee on Assassinations) investigation is still in progress as well.
2. I understand that. However, this process (from what I've seen) isn't the best way to be going about things. It seems that this theory (which appears to have started off as a spoof) is now being accepted as fact by many, including the writers of the 60IF summary, without a lot of evidence.
3. I hate to be repetitive, sorry, I just can't find a better way of expressing that I understand that. However, I'm still unsure as to the legality of such evidence -- I decided to actually check with people to see if the 60IF case could hold up in court, and the lawyers are still checking to see if there is any precedent for using audio/video/photograph/etc. comparisons. Fingerprint comparisons have a precedent; they're still checking for a case that has used anything else.
4. I see that you are one person. One person made one post.
5. I am not heckling. I am raising doubt. And it is clear from the differing opinions as to which pictures are Eric and Feric that not too many people have a clue which one is which or that there even is a Feric. I think there is reasonable evidence that he was not. Chiming in with one's opinion is not considered heckling.
6. Who I actually am? If this is about the Open person, I told Paul Bearer all I knew: he happened to be on the same committee as me. They suspected me because I shared many of the same opinions about the Kennedy assassination based on what our group had uncovered. I know Open returned once, as a fellow named 'Sir60if' -- a friend told me to check out his posts on the forum, because the general consensus from the others was that this was a forum of tin foil hatters. That's where I saw the photo comps and got interested.
7. Yes, and I say why right under my name. "My IP is a proxy because I can't stand pop ups." Switching from proxy to proxy often helps me avoid pop ups, at least for a little while. I don't necessarily trust pop up blockers, since a few are quite notorious for not working. That, and I often use the computer at my workplace. Being that I work at an Internet cafe, it is very easy to save my stuff on one of the spare computers there.
8. Okay, now that I know who Marisa is, why does she have relevance to the case?
9. See above in regards to Dalida.
10. I can see that.
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Sept 29, 2005 10:51:59 GMT
so... WHY DOES ERIC/FERIC CLAPTON NEVER LOOK INTO THE CAMERA???
I would go looking for pics like that myself, but I can't tell the differance between the two well. Can anyone help me?
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Post by bxv on Oct 19, 2005 14:44:36 GMT
I didnt know there was a Clapton thread here, I just visited the Blind Faith website to show my GF the famous album cover - and noticed how different he {Clapton} looked. Here's the UK cover for you foreigners www.angelfire.com/wi/blindfaith/index.htmlWhat is going on? How many bloody Eric Claptons were there? Don't know if this has been mentioned - but wasn't Layla actually dedicated to George Harrison's wife Patty(?) whom Eric was madly in love with and later went on to marry? Layla was "inspired" by Robert Johnson's Love in Vain, it get's a nod in the lyrics. Steve [Frankenstein2] Winwood played with Jimi on Electric Ladyland/Voodoo Chile (long version) and he also played with Eric in Blind Faith. This stinks.
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