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Post by daveyo on Feb 23, 2010 8:12:32 GMT
As a matter of fact the last known video of the Beatles playing together is from L.A Hollywood Bowl, and that one is not really very good but never the less its all we got because from there they went to San Fran within 2-3 days. Also I think a couple of some outfits besides the corporate giants actually has the Live Master Videos of the Beatles playing in all the concerts and over the years have been trying to figure out a way to get it released but to my understanding Yoko, Faul, Ringo and the late George Harrison blocked it and refused to allow it to be released. So if it is ever going to come out, it will be after the DEATHS of Yoko, Faul and Ringo.
The reason Yoko is in the picture here, is she obtained everything John Lennon ever did all the patents and copyrights and agreements by default because John Died and they were married and apparently must have had it written as well the beneficiary to all his works. John Lennon himself started to get second thoughts of about his wife, and was trying to get away from her, and was planning to get a divorce, and if Yoko was divorced from John, she LOSES EVERYTHING AND MONEY and I think Yoko found out, and there is your suspected motive of why John Lennon got killed before the Divorce papers every got filed to the Courts. There was reported some strange things going on between Yoko and Sean as well. I think John Lennon got himself into a bad situation and it was very difficult for him to get out of it. Even the late George Harrison expressed this part in so many different ways and has spoken about it from time to time over the years.
Also in concern of about the Abbey Road Studios, I don't understand why England does not make it a National Landmark Status, and perhaps build a Museum nearby pertaining to the Beatles and even if possible (which I think should be done) to hold the graves of the worlds most renowned group that was able to change SOCIETY and MUSIC almost overnight.
America themselves took and bought a master copy of Michael Jacksons Thriller (1984 I think) and made it a National Archive being technically the most popular Musician for the American Heritage since America itself began. Hmmm, wonder why Elvis was not, but at least they buried him at his hometown and viewable by the public to visit his gravesite. There are other bands that is even better than Michael Jackson coming out from America and Two of them come into mind being Earth Wind and Fire, and Commodores. Both are very good bands, but EWF is even better due to their fantastic showmanship and the ability to move around while playing which is extremely very difficult to do and still maintain the same beat without messing up.
The Beatles itself as a group made just TWO very huge mistakes and in my opinion, they had to be idiots to not have the foresight to keep it and it was the sale of the Beatles Catalogs and Songs. Today those catalogs is worth over 500 million dollars as the first one and the Second one was selling out Abbey Road Studios which I think today is PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!! All the Beatle Songs came straight from that place.
Daveyo
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Post by romanruins on Feb 24, 2010 18:50:06 GMT
Something I want to add about the Midget in the Magical Mystery Tour is that He is the only one using a Camera in the Film. This could be because Paul still had problems speaking a year after the accident.(The Van Window Reflection in the 1995 Free as A Bird Video). Taking a picture, and writing about it was a way to help him communicate his thoughts with Others.
Another clue about Paul's possible injuries is that before George preforms Blue Jay Way some of the face's of the passengers of the Bus are shown in the sky after an explosion making exaggerated chewing motions with their jaws. It is part of the Story line of the film.
His segment in the Song "A Day In The Life" could be something He recorded before the Event/Accident, and they added in January, and February of 1967. Thanks Michelle!
Cheers, Ruins
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Post by daveyo on Feb 25, 2010 6:24:17 GMT
Hi Roman
You speak of an accident. Is it possible that the Real Paul Lost His Voice from that accident? If so then it sounds like a reasonable and plausible explanation for his disappearance since the fall of 66. I can understand this part really well. With no voice and maybe perhaps a damage face or some paralysis etc, I then can understand why he cannot play anymore. But then again why disappear into oblivion, which makes no sense, and all they could have done is simply announce that Paul was involved in a accident and cannot play anymore and has decided to retire.
Instead they went to great lengths to keep the cover up going which is still ongoing as of today.
Magical Mystery Tour? Mystery is the key word. Nothing magical about it except that he magically disappeared forever thus leaving us the mystery to figure out what happened to him to this day.
Maybe he is not dead, but is someplace well hidden and out of sight. What do you think?
Daveyo
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Post by romanruins on Feb 25, 2010 17:53:33 GMT
Hello Daveyo, if you want to direct questions to me Please call me Ruins, as I have asked.
In an investigation of this type the Body is, and contains the Best Evidence! I, Sun King, or You were not there when any of these events were happening. I am not that interested in open ended, unreferenced speculation about what people's motivations could be from the repercussions if the far left Guitarist is the Real Paul in the Coming Up Video. If the MMT Film is an explanation of George, John, and Ringo's acceptance of Paul's replacement then they were Eye Witness's to what was going on. The Magical part is the "Four or five Magicians in the sky" (Maybe Musicians).
Cheers!, Ruins
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Post by Paul Bearer on Feb 26, 2010 3:23:28 GMT
This looks extraordinarily like JPM. But so did the impersonator in Yellow Submarine wehn they were talking about green meanies. There could be a number of possiblities here but the last one IMO is that is the real Paul. A pretty close impersonator is one. Another is digital trickery which is what the whole video is in any case or the digitally altering of the face. This may have been put in as a clue to remind us what the real JPM lookjed like. It wouldn't even surprise me if it was real footage of JPM montaged onto the video somehow, Forest Gumpish like.
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Post by romanruins on Feb 26, 2010 17:18:01 GMT
Hello Paul Bearer,
There are two "Pauls" in the Music Video dressed in contemporary clothing. One is the far left Guitarist, the other is the "Paul" with the mike singing. Do they look the same? Why wouldn't they if their portraying the same time period (1980). What would be the point of it? Why not have the singer have a guitar? There is no reason the singer "Paul" needs to hold a mike in studio.
Any Professionally made Music Video attempts to tell a message to make the time watching it worthwhile. If you study the Bass Paul dressed from the Fab Four time period in your post he looks, acts, and has the characteristics of a teenager. He could be around 14 year old. He is "Coming Up" on cue as the lyrics describe!
Cheers! Ruins
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Post by daveyo on Feb 27, 2010 9:49:45 GMT
Hi Ruins
Ok now that I have addressed you properly, I hope its OK with you. As to your comment, on the second paragraph to paul bearer, hmmm, we all know he was way older than 14, and the character of Paul during the Fab 4 years would be considered quite natural and really Paul did enjoy performing in front of the crowd, as it was his personal high or something and enjoyed playing the music. Also remember at this point, after playing it so many times it is like second nature and when that happens its really easy to do all kinds of things and have fun playing in front of the crowd. There was just a small incident during the Shea 65 concert where he sort of was mumbling and kinda froze and snapped out of it when John Lennon stepped up in front of him almost to his face and from then on he had no other problems. John Lennon was the guy who kept that group together solid. The chemistry is so obvious and it flowed from one to the other. When I saw the Get Back Video concert in 69 the chemistry was not even there at all, between the group and that imposter Paul. It was there between the other three George and Paul and Ringo. You can really see that.
So I think during the Fab 4 years, Paul actually had a lot of fun playing and it showed on the stage during their performances. In the Japan video George finally came out of the closet so to speak and started to have fun too. Ringo by this time was all burned out and it showed on his face. John pretty much was still business like action wise. Paul was literally aggravated because of the mikes that moved away constantly. Towards the end he did not want to play anymore and left pissed off.
Bands have emotions too Ruins. I also played on a band for 5 years doing the circuit between Chicago and Milwaukee doing gigs at various places. Its hard and not very easy and yes I do admit there were many times I really felt burned out and did not want to play but had to because we had contracts to honor. Towards the end we started to make good money, but the woman started to get in the way and began causing friction and problems to my bandmates. Eventually we broke up for good.
Yea I had many girls but I kept one thing quite clear for myself. Not get involve with any of them lest they cause me problems. So it was nice to stay single and play it like a player which was a lot of fun for me. It was a good thing that I stuck to my goal because when I saw what happened to the rest of the guys in my group, it really got bad and even some of their girlfriends started to get on me and it piss me off too, and sheeeeeeeeesh the arguments was unreal.
The Beatles too were beset with many many problems and the pressure was enormous. This is easily seen from all the statements they made over the years. Also the way their schedule was it was insane, and it can burn out any band very quickly. Take a look at EWF today, they really space it out and allow room for relaxation between their performances. That is the way to do it properly. That is why they are still around and still very popular.
Daveyo
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Post by Sun King™ on Feb 28, 2010 10:16:24 GMT
This looks extraordinarily like JPM. But so did the impersonator in Yellow Submarine wehn they were talking about green meanies. There could be a number of possiblities here but the last one IMO is that is the real Paul. A pretty close impersonator is one. Another is digital trickery which is what the whole video is in any case or the digitally altering of the face. This may have been put in as a clue to remind us what the real JPM lookjed like. It wouldn't even surprise me if it was real footage of JPM montaged onto the video somehow, Forest Gumpish like. The video inside video technique was applied for all Faul and Linda characters and so for that "real Paul" too.
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Post by daveyo on Feb 28, 2010 12:05:40 GMT
So, Sun King, can you verify for me if Ruins is correct if you examine the player he speaks of possibly being the real Paul? The only thing that throws me off is that Adams Apple, and I do know the Real Paul did not have one at all. If he did which most males have, it was indeed very small, whereas on others it sticks out like a sore thumb as you can see the photo shot that Ruins is talking about.
Would like to hear your version
Daveyo
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Post by Paul Bearer on Feb 28, 2010 13:01:15 GMT
Actaully, in the photo, the "real" Paul looks a little off. Could it be Danny or somesuch?
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Post by romanruins on Feb 28, 2010 17:09:51 GMT
James Paul and Brian in post 17 of this thread I believe suggests that the Bass player is Paul's Son. If thats so I am in agreement. Alice is the Singer, his Grand Mother. It looks that way to me. Buddy Holly is playing a right handed Guitar! Were they in a hurry when they filmed the Music Video? Is there any evidence of the Real Paul playing a right handed Guitar to an audience, Daveyo, or anyone else? Could Buddy be another offspring of Paul. I know Paul wasn't 14 or 18 as a Fab Four member thats the point. He barely makes it thru some of His Hoooh cue's in the song Coming Up! Like a young teenager would!
A Good look at Tara/Billy is in the Official "Hello, Good Bye" Video. I see no "video Inside video technique" applied to his face. To my eyes He is also Paul in the "My ever Present Past" Video. Interesting Lyrics that one! "In a Flash" "The rain exploded in a mighty Crash".
I enjoyed your post on Bands Daveyo!
Cheers, Ruins
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Post by daveyo on Mar 1, 2010 5:29:27 GMT
Hi Ruins
Thanks for enjoying my band days, and if you want to know more let me know.
The Real Paul having any Children? I do not recall that any exists, and if he did, it definitely was kept very secret and very quiet. You would think someone would have mentioned it one way or another as nosy the media is and always have been when they deal with celebrities.
Hahahahahaha, I do recall one occassion when a woman approached me and told me I was a father of a child, and it did surprised me. It was during the time I was a band bass player. I gave it a small thought and had several other people around me at the time, and then told her its impossible because we never dated and never had sex and I did not know what she had between her legs such as a tatoo etc., and if she wishes to pursue it, then take me to court and that she will have to PROVE IT. She then muttered something and then left and I never saw her again. That is why when you become popular be it in any band or in some movies or in some other shindig that a lot of people get exposed to etc., I made that rule for myself not to get involved with woman as it is very dangerous to do such. It does not take much for them to claim rape as one did to a L.A. Basketball player named Kobe etc, and others or one to claim they got assaulted. Easy to charge in America but very difficult to defend against such accusations.
Look what happened to the Bass player from Kiss, Ok he gives out his autograph to a aging couple, and then those people claimed he assaulted them etc. At that time he was by himself at a shopping mall. Well known people become vulnerable and it is very simple to file a lawsuit for just about anything now a days because people are desperate to find ways to get money due to financial hardships. Now if he had some witnesses who were with him these people would not have filed such suit. Understand. That is why its very important to always have good people around you no matter what you do or where you go. Just protect yourself.
When I was playing on the band, yes I did acts very similar to EWF and its not easy. My band was called Chicago Express. I always made sure I had people around me for as a witness to anything I did in case some sleaze tried something on me. I had to be smart to play it safe. The bands today for the most part SUCK, and they cannot do anything right and they also have no choreography worth my time to even bother to watch or listen to them. Their music is AWFUL. If I was to get my band back together again, being a low brand type band, with the similar show actions that EWF does, my band would beat them by a mile instantly. We certainly would not be dressed like bums either. These other bands have no class.
Anyway hmmm you did give us something to think about here.
Daveyo
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Post by khamira on Aug 4, 2010 8:38:31 GMT
Ure funny with ur "PAUL" after 1966 thing. Kinda hard to understand or accept that, ha?
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Post by romanruins on Aug 8, 2010 3:12:15 GMT
Hello Michelle1, I enjoy reading you posts, and info!
I don't have a lot to add to my position on this Thread. At least without using conjecture, and inference. I will add that I have come up with two points that back my position that the Corporal Paul survived, and recuperated from when the "rain exploded in a mighty Crash" in September of 1966.
1.) The Midget (Paul, Post Sports Car Crash) in the MMT film is a physical being at times pushing the bicycle in the sand! Not representing a Spirit!
2.) The Midget takes pictures through out the Film working the camera not something a spirit would do!
As an aside one of the clues that I felt supported the Paul Is Dead position are the words in Band on the Run "as we fell into the Sun". (thats a bad a$$ explosion I thought) No one survives falling into the Sun. Until I took another look at the context the lyrics of the song where creating, and that is a New situation, a different Day. A more relaxed time. "and the first one said to second one there, I hope your having FUN." The band was different. Paul, and Billy (Tara Browne) were working in Tandem. With Billy (Tara) doing the preforming.
The clues in MMT Movie suggest Paul Severely injured his lower Jaw, and maybe throat, and He probably didn't have the singing ability He had before, even after He recuperated. " Paperback Writers" don't preform they write, (and in this context direct) and is a indication of where Paul wanted to go (or wished for) even in the Spring of 1966.
Also Billy(Tara) and Paul were not Identical Twins who's physic's aged alike. A problem under the spotlight, and being one of the World's most recorded Persons (Hah). TPTB settled on Billy as Faul before Tara's fatal sports car accident, and before He was to receive his inheritance! 28 if Living in the Material World.The White Beatle License Plate LMW 28IF on the Abby Road Album Cover. (Would that be Five Beatles in the picture?)
Cheers, Ruins
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Post by khamira on Aug 9, 2010 7:49:00 GMT
LOLZ. If u believe this longfaced dude is the real PAUL, then theres nothing left to add. Keep it like that!
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Post by Sun King™ on Aug 9, 2010 15:55:10 GMT
LOLZ. If u believe this longfaced dude is the real PAUL, then theres nothing left to add. Keep it like that! You are right, Khamira, and please SEE neck thikness differences too! The problem is that "Crossover False Paul" carrer started with the Real Paul one. A counterpart made up to protect the Genius.
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Post by khamira on Aug 10, 2010 20:13:28 GMT
Pauline? LOLZ, what a bad joke!
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Post by Sun King™ on Aug 11, 2010 20:32:42 GMT
You are right, Khamira, and please SEE neck thikness differences too! The problem is that "Crossover False Paul" carrer started with the Real Paul one. A counterpart made up to protect the Genius. sunking, which one is Pauline? It's not me who decided which one was Pauline... ... the sign on the chin.
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Post by romanruins on Aug 17, 2010 6:30:33 GMT
If you go to YouTube and enter "ARE3RA-TheRottenApple 2010" in the Search Box, and go 2:05 into Iamaphoney's Video I hear Faul saying " I was saying this to Paul. I am trying to help you, but I always feel as if I'm annoying you" to George. Does anyone hear that or not?
Cheers,
Ruins
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Post by romanruins on Sept 26, 2010 7:38:20 GMT
If anyone wants to go to Youtube and put in "Beatles-The End-Bladesteve2007" in the search box it is 38 seconds long. In the Clip from their last song together Ringo walks by Faul as Tara lifts his head. It has no meaning by itself. Why would it be in the Official Video? Two possible meaning are;
1.) Its a message of the area of the Real Paul's injury from the Sports car crash, and supports my Thesis of the area of injury. At least main injury area, the Throat. Where the vocal cords are.
2.) Its a message Paul was beheaded or nearly beheaded (outright killed) in the crash.
I have presented my case in this Thread.
Cheers, Ruins
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khepri
Welcome new member
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Post by khepri on Sept 27, 2010 20:18:23 GMT
Hi In that video "Beatles-The End-Bladesteve2007" Throughout the whole video Faul does the Hidden hand sign of Freemasonry. 'The hidden hand lets the other initiates know that the individual depicted is part of this secret Brotherhood and that his actions were inspired by the Masonic philosophy and beliefs. Furthermore, the hand that executes the actions is hidden behind cloth, which can symbolically refer to covert nature of the Mason’s actions.' More on that at vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2536
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Post by romanruins on Sept 29, 2010 5:20:31 GMT
Hi, Something easy for people wishing to explore the issue of whither Paul died in a crash in 1966 is to go to Page 2 of "Sadly .... James Paul McCartney Was REALLY Bald" Thread in the "Essential Section", and scroll down the Page looking at the Posts that intrest them.
Cheers, Ruins
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Post by psmith1728 on Oct 6, 2010 22:33:49 GMT
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Post by LUCY on Oct 7, 2010 12:23:14 GMT
Get Back!
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Post by LUCY on Oct 7, 2010 12:36:45 GMT
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