TheDZ
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Post by TheDZ on Feb 2, 2005 20:50:28 GMT
oops thats Sylvie not Sylvia. You might also note that the "signpost" with the word join on it is itself a 'T'.... However there's still more to this decipherment. As I parse the Lyrics to Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds I am struck by the fact that it is in and of itself a join(t)ing of the elements of air and water. Sky(air) in the chorus and water (ocean) in the verses. I cant' help thinking that : Cellophane flowers of yellow and green, Towering over your head. is referring to seaweed or sea kelp , which would tower over your head if you were on the ocean floor... and that : Where rocking horse people eat marshmallow pies, is about seahorses and the marsh mallow ((Althaea officinalis)Salt Marsh Plant ) is referring to the sea coast, where seahorses mostly live. www.ct-botanical-society.org/galleries/althaeaoffi.htmlourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/BMLSS/seahorse.htmbut wait , there's more.... Perplexed referred to a helicopter and that got me thinking...what kind of helicopter? This is the same type as used in the end of A Hard Day's Night www.helis.com/50s/h_h19.phpThe Sikorsky s55 However there is another helicopter more suited to longer flights , The Sikorsky s58/h34 Aka The SeaHorse. www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/sikoruh34.htmWhich was also used as an air taxiHow about this Where rocking horse people eat marshmallow pies, is Where the Seahorse helicopter crashed into the seacoast where the marsh mallows and seaweed grow. but yet more Newspaper(pause) taxis(pause) appear on the shore(crash into the water near land), Waiting to take you away.(clearing for takeoff) Climb in the back with your head in the clouds,( in a helicopter) And you're gone. (paul, brian and sylvie (the girl with kaleidoscope eyes?) are gone) Is this song going backwards in time? hmmmm...... The girl (Sylvie) with the sun (son=nicolas) in her eyes. How's that twirl your noodle? |
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 2, 2005 22:24:25 GMT
So, fascinating. Deep. Yes, I think John could elect to "go that deep" in his writings. Logically, he couldn't write in a thinly veiled style very often......... It would have to take major ferreting out. ferrets.htmlplanet.com/photo.htmlAren't they cute! And, I feel "helicopter" and I don't quite know why!......... Pilchard as a small fish, smaller and rounder, semolina as connected to Jewish meals, and a pasta item, and processed left over wheat at that..... Crabalocker--thank you! Fishwife, don't they hem and haw and scream and make a loud fuss about everything? A la, "The Taming of thr Shrew" see Liz Taylor (sic)- a mideival Virginia Woolf?  .......a la Andy Capp's wife?/// Join? Dangled a carrot? A la "made an appealing offer, one hard for the rabbit to resist?" The magnet? A magnate? Oil magnate? tycoon? Semolina can be Spaghetti---and the fat old aunt eats what? John serves her too much spaghetti? And the guard, or soldier, or Weimar Republic era policeman with the barbed helmet and the fishing rod? With a piece of paper on the hook---is that a contract? currency? f a b , m r . d e z om b i f i c a t o r |
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TheDZ
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Post by TheDZ on Feb 2, 2005 22:53:21 GMT
Perplexed , I am lol so much so that I'm nearly rotflol.! Thanks so much....  I'll be waiting in the SeaBat ...Glub glub....  Squeak! |
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Post by beatled on Feb 2, 2005 23:49:46 GMT
How's that twirl your noodle? I'm twirled, twisted and shouted! Wow, amazing DZ.. ![]() http://*banned link*/smilies/bowdown.gif[/img] |
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Post by TotalInformation on Feb 3, 2005 1:49:09 GMT
Is semolina a common Jewish dish?
I've always associated those four lines to be what the four were up to that fated night.
Semolina pilchard -- Ringo eating dinner
climbing up the Eiffel Tower -- John in France working on How I Won the War
elementary penguin singing Hari Krishna - George in India with the Maharishi
them kicking Edgar Allen POE - Paul being murdered
So, anyway, that would be another tip that Ringo and his schnozz are Jewish, despite the denails out there. Though semolina pilchard sounds like a dreadful British meal, regardless; the kind of thing Ringo might have been eating after he got that first call from Paul about his mishap.
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 1:52:28 GMT
I think the Beatles sang it this way: (don't take it the wrong way, these lyrics are not meant to be some kind of a strange web "come-on"....just sharing The Beatle's nostalgia...)
You make me DZ, Miss Lizzie,
The way you rock'n'roll.
You make me DZ, Miss Lizzie,
When we do the stroll.
Come on, Miss Lizzie,
love me fore I grow too old.
Come on, give me fever,
Put your little hand in mine.
You make me DZ, Miss Lizzie,
Girl, you look so fine.
You're just a-rockin' and a-rollin',
I sure do wish you were mine.
You make me DZ, Miss Lizzie,
When you call my name.
O-o-o-o-oh baby,
Say you're driving me insane.
Come on, come on, come on, baby,
I want to be your lover man.
Run and tell your mama
I want you to be my bride.
Run and tell your brother,
Baby, don't run and hide.
You make me DZ, Miss Lizzie,
And I want to marry you.
Come on, give me fever,
Put your little hand in mine.
You make me DZ DZ Lizzie,
Girl, you look so fine.
You're just a-rockin' and.a-rollin',
I sure do wish you were mine.
DZ! You make the board want to party......
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 2:25:56 GMT
Perplexed , I am lol so much so that I'm nearly rotflol.! Thanks so much.... I'll be waiting in the SeaBat ...Glub glub.... Squeak! Meet you there. Wow. Hmmmm. Hey, you spend a lot of time down in that join(t)? theminiaturespage.com/man/seabatreplicas/Man, what a dive! Well, we have "flying"(it's always PanAm)----"a bus"----"an helicopter"---"an Austin-Martin(or Healey?)", a "limousine", a "Beetle", a "police van", a "skilift", a "submarine", "taxi's", a "yacht"(after "Help!" PR shooting) , "trains" (HDNight) "bicycles", a "moped accident", "horses"(PennyLane), other "little boats"(Help! finale), and, now, a "seabat". My point? Lifestyle of the Beatles. A John said, Life consisted of a hotel rooms, limos, quick meals, and travel to the next town. Makes sense that if calamity would befall them, it would happen while travelling. They were nearly always together for 2 and 1/2 years. My big question? The week directly following the final Candlestick Park concert. August 31st-September 10th is the dark hole of Beatle history. When did they REALLY fly home to London? Who met the 4? of them at the airport? They played San Francisco and then went, by helicopter, if I am not mistaken, to Los Angeles. This is when the murkiness begins.....Blue Jay Way......next post....... |
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 2:44:16 GMT
Blue Jay Way IS in Los Angeles. Near Mulholland Drive.
A road which inspired the title of one of David Lynch's creepiest movie ever......"Mulholland Drive"......
Blue Jay Way
Harrison
This song was written by Harrison in August 1967, while on a visit to California with his wife Patti and friends Alex Mardas and Neil Aspinall. Upon arriving in Los Angeles on August 1, they were taken to the home of Robert Fitzpatrick, a music business lawyer, who was away on vacation in Hawaii. His cottage had been rented for Harrison and was located on Blue Jay Way high in the Hollywood Hills above Sunset Boulevard. They were expecting a man for dinner, their friend Derek Taylor, who formerly was The Beatles press officer. Harrison, concerned and somewhat irritated that Taylor was quite late in arriving, used this time for writing this song. In Taylor's defense, Blue Jay Way was difficult to find, as one could be close, yet still separated by a ravine. This song, which began as a short, rather simple ditty, was transformed later in the studio for the film. Harrison's vocals were altered to sound as if they were ghostly, and backwards tape, droning organs and a cello were added to achieve the desired effect. The Beatles attempted to attain again that Eastern atmosphere, and with studio magic, did so, without using any Indian instruments.
There's a fog upon L.A., and my friends have lost their way
We'll be over soon they said, now they've lost themselves instead
Please don't be long, please don't you be very long, please don't be long
Or I may be asleep
Well it only goes to show, and I told them where to go
Ask a policeman on the street, there's so many there to meet
Please don't be long, please don't you be very long, please don't be long
Or I may be asleep
Now it's past my bed I know, and I'd really like to go
Soon will be the break of day, sitting here in Blue Jay Way
Please don't be long, please don't you be very long, please don't be long
Or I may be asleep
Please don't be long, please don't you be very long, please don't be long
Please don't be long, please don't you be very long, please don't be long
Please don't be long, please don't you be very long, please don't be long
Don't be long, Don't be long, Don't be long, Don't be long, Don't be long
Don't be long, Don't be long
So, I take it from the song, that Derek Taylor didn't find the house
till "the break of dawn."
Hmmmm........
I've driven all over LA and the Hollywood Hills and been up and down the whole length of Mulholland Drive. (in the 80's)
And, the ravines are QUITE steep. There are dangerous intersections, coming back into the road, from the side streets, as I remember, from 1988 or so. There were a couple of places that, due to very poor road visibility, and that even on a very clear day,
one turns into the road very carefully.
There were even a couple of hazard signals, entailing,: "Oncoming Vehicle Approaching". A red traffic signal would change to green when it was safe to turn into the incredibly winding, narrow, roller-coaster ride that is Mullholland Drive.
I remember the BMW's and Mercedes' and little Farari's of the "natives" that would come up from behind me and want to pass.
Cars zip around ferociously on this perilous road. I remember driving at night once. And, you can get lost. It becomes hard to see the street signs, which would have been small in the 60's. (I think in the 80's they replaced them with big giant ones, all over LA.)
I think Capital Records has long had that cylindrical tower in Hollywood as its LA headquarters. That's just down the hill on the "basin" side of the Hollywood Hills.
Up the hill; down the hill. There are many roads to egress to the rim of the long, meandering ridge upon which Mulholland Drive winds. Laguna Canyon, Coldwater Canyon. etc, etc. It's really a several mile long system of hair-pin turns.
At many points, a driver must be careful along this road. Steep
cliffs and sudden fall-offs abound. There are two lanes. Meeting speeding, sloppy drivers head on was once a hazard associated with this road. I don't know. Maybe it still is.
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 2:52:31 GMT
www.filmfodder.com/movies/reviews/mulholland_drive/David Lynch wanted to make this a series, but crammed the whole season long plot line into one 2 hour movie. It's a real interesting, haunting film. The main charator? Rita. She has a car wreck on Mulholland Drive, seems to survive it. She gets amnesia, and wanders all around not knowing who she is. Turns out, she's somebody else from who she thought she was.... Very complicated, eerie, and twists back and forth as much as Mulholland Drive does itself......
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 2:54:51 GMT
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 3:17:31 GMT
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 3:19:49 GMT
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 3:27:45 GMT
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 3:51:17 GMT
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 4:32:27 GMT
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 5:36:27 GMT
part of The Fool on the Hill DAY AFTER DAY ALONE ON A HILL THE MAN WITH THE FOOLISH GRIN IS KEEPING PERFECTLY STILL BUT NOBODY WANTS TO KNOW HIM THEY CAN SEE THAT HE´S JUST A FOOL AND HE NEVER GIVES AN ANSWER BUT THE FOOL ON THE HILL SEES THE SUN GOING DOWN AND THE EYES IN HIS HEAD SEE THE WORLD SPINNING ´ROUND AND NOBODY SEEMS TO LIKE HIM THEY CAN TELL WHAT HE WANTS TO DO AND HE NEVER SHOWS HIS FEELINGS BUT THE FOOL ON THE HILL... HE NEVER LISTENS TO THEM HE KNOWS THEY´RE THE FOOL THEY DON´T LIKE HIM BUT THE FOOL ON THE HILL... OK, those are wrong, some web site where they mix em up a little, but, think of it: "see the sun going down" -----corpse was facing west. Or, was in the land of the going down of the sun--California. "eyes in his head, see the world spinning round." Corpse was found with the eyes rolled up into the sockets. "keeping perfectly still" as a corpse "day after day" who can sit still day in day out who's living? "the foolish grin"---there is no brain power behind his expression. His face frozen into his typical, innocent, "Paul" grin. A Paulish grin. {Spelling wise: A fricative becomes a plosive. P becomes F. And two vowels. "A,U', vs. "O,O."Have we heard that before? Pool? Paul? And, P switched for F? Then "L". Easy substitution. (Sidenote: Polythene Pam: Paul(y) the NE MAP........) back to the main ideas: "he never gives an answer" like a dead man "he never shows his feelings" like a dead man "the sound he appears to make" he makes NO sounds "he never listens to them" dead men don't listen Fool---on the Hollywood Hills. Somewhere. Not all the way at the bottom. Just having fallen, or rolled, or was placed halfway down. Sitting up. Looking out. Eyes wide open. Paul's signature cheeks set in a half smile. Not in a car. Not found for several days. (Day after day....) At least 3 days, then. Found alone. (Alone on a hill.) Not at the bottom of the canyon. Maybe above street level, on a hillside....Undoubtably in the brambly, dry southwestern, wild hillside brush typical of those canyons. Paul on the Hills. They had a rental houses to stay in. George had one. Paul must have been in another rental house, perhaps, in a near-by neighborhood. They were not staying together. Paul required directions to get there. Why assume they always stayed together--after a tour? Because, "and it only goes to show, for I told them where to go..." And, George does not sing: "They've lost their WAY instead, he sings, "They've lost THEMSELVES instead." How do you lose youself? You perish. George gave Paul the address and directions on the phone. Maybe, Paul and Brian...... The fog was thick, the road dangerous.... Something happened. This would be a giant hole. Car went over cliff. Or, car was pushed over cliff. There are higher roads on these Hills, in spots, these higher roads have houses on them that look down TO Mulholland Drive. Mulholland itself is in no way level, it vaires between sea level and 400 feet in places. It is also a LONG AND WINDING ROAD. Maybe Paul was also renting another house up in the vast real estate of the Hollywood Hills. He could go 10, 15, miles in fog along a treacherous 2-lane winding road to find George on a little stub of a street....... Leaving the House(rental) of Paul, for the House(rental) of George. The body lay undiscovered for 2 or 3 days. A resident, perhaps on whose extreme property he fell, found him. Calls were made, neighbors, and police came. A crowd of people sttod and stared. Without ID, or a car, and with his hair and skin in poor condition due to exposure, no one new for sure who he was. He looked sort of like..... Missing for 48 hours, LAPD was secretly searching the Hills in the area between the two rental houses. George must have called someone at dawn in a tearful panic..... Someone kept it out of the local news....... Call the "wife" in, the one who "assumes your name", the first double. He's been waiting in the "wings." But, he isn't Bill. Bill is not even a glimmer to all this yet..... 3 Beatles, Brian, and a double, who has been quickly flown in, fly out together to London. Paul isn't found yet. Ringo and Brian fly back to Los Angeles. George goes into seclusion. Lennon flies to Los Angeles. Paul is found. The corpse is loaded into an American police van. Ringo, John, Brian, and suits from Capital, EMI, and an intelligence official or two rendezvous with police. They view the body in the van. The car from that last awful night, has been found, brought and towed to impoundment, and is examined for evidence of foul play, etc. Next, a very famous plan. Well, not so famous. For now, the Paul's double and Ringo must appear at the Melody Maker Awards in less than two weeks to support the idea of Paul being alive. George, now on the verge of a nervous breakdown, is put under care. This evolves into his desire to meet the Majarishi, whom he had been studying about, and going to India. John makes a movie. Ringo tries to cope. What a fliggin' mess.  |
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 5:50:55 GMT
www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?ovi=1&zoom=7&mapdata=OE4WNszgW9x4eNyhQ4MFyTMvRJx4V0IhAIdk 1mNObUcv1H%2fPOyahuKJ4HPYhZ00h3JVRL8w7xnX9bkzn wxKMR3GXeNj2H44ZvZ5F285z44MMLvamE3eC41embyXe2r Yhs0aum8p4urtDgkfqWeeqH1ko1hqy9lQvi7%2fbuk8swCre 7QFb5114jZOQibO7vrgEHJjp04r29paeDdcYS%2bFyABdU0E GCQ4qMTXUxkbXbeRQjQJDjHIJH84kg9wSptmQF5EVOG1dZ zoMvFtQ7FSSVrAkHo6OrX0br8ycwKimDRO25DvKOfmd7gJ 1Het4dCzNT14Z4gQc%2fbyG4HHSV6fgGSgYOEHUg%2fcks 17FfugtzQQPfmcD9ychzli6SJbtB8l61S4w1Gridc0MnXFkDK3 G8siYZsfUoXv66mCY4bLo6YBEIF0xMkuk%2fwtb0wEeuqD8 LaVMeMxarqMckF0X2UuAMNSKrNUPUzeJg0%2buxATqbrG6FY WNbbRpTcavx3ACMgGN5lCfkz6b4LR6KO5Espp7XMw%3d%3d Map of Blue Jay Way. Zoom in or out. Hightlight it all and put in your http.......
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 5:58:03 GMT
www.poeforward.com/madtomb/cemeteries/flhh/flhh.htm"I told you 'bout the fool on the hill. I tell you, man, he's living there still." Check it out. Paul is still in the Hollywood Hills. He's livin' there, STILL! In other words, he is absolutely STILL, not moving. He's living there STILL, as a dead man. Oh, John, good gosh you always had a weird way with words, baby! and the website is POEforward... Look and see who all else is buried there.........how many are on Sargent Pepper's....
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 6:10:03 GMT
About EA POE: www.greenspun.com/bboard/index.tcland scroll down to the life of Edgar Allen Poe....... Well, he was buried in Baltimore....... But, there is linkage to him on Sgt Pepper.....why? one girl said, on the sub thread called, "This is how Poe died", says this terse reply to the idea of Poe dying of rabies: (quote)Poe died the same way his mother did. He died of Tuberculosis I have resurched poe all my life and all the evidence I have found says he died that way. He was found in Baltimore and taken to Washington College Hospital he died four days later at 5 a.m. in the morning. if you don't agree check for your self. Rabies ya right, thats what they all say. -- tina lawrence (londongirl7@aol.com), April 07, 2003. 5AM in the morning? |
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 8:24:01 GMT
www.thecemeteryproject.com/fdp-forest-lawn.htmThere are 5 Forest Lawn Cemetaries in LA. Burbank, GLendale, and Hollywood Hills and others. Click the Glendale branch to see who's there for Sgt. Peppers. Hollywood Hills has several......
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 8:52:55 GMT
Also, isn't "Kali" the Indian god on the cover, down in the soil? On Sgt Peppers?
Kali? or Cali-fornia?
In the soil.........
John. OMG. Kali-4-Knee-Ah.
Well, look for a "4" , and well, I don't guess he went that far with it.
Is there a rebus in the names , and in the objects?
Rebus. MMT. re-BUS................what is a rebus........
Meanwhile, back at Sgt. Peppers...lessee, John has a french horn, or, usually in scores, called simply
"cor." COR means horn in French. Has a conical bore. Coeur is French for "heart", and is pronounced the same. LONELY HEARTS BAND!
Lonely COEURS. The instruments, by virtue of their names, symbolize HEARTS. Rebus.
Who is the genius that thought this up? Lennon? Ringo? Martin?
And, oh, yes, Kali has FOUR (4) arms. KALI FOUR--NYAH.
There's a "Nyah" or a "Knee-ah" on their somewhere. Lennon.
THere are Five Forest Lawn cemetaries in LA.
Five points---where the "stars" are buried.
And, the "hookah" forms the letter "P". The tuba makes an "A".
Whatthe heck are those weeds, those ferns around the bass drum?
\And, Diana Dors? Doors, dressed in Gold?
and, Ringo has, a trumpet, is that right? I have to find my copy.....or does he have a COR-net? Which is like a trumpet but with a conical bore.....
And, Paul has an English Horn, or a "Cor Anglais", again, with the
"cor".......and uses a DOUBLE-REED. Oh, great merciful Lord, a DOUBLE READ!!!!!!!
Read: Double!!!!!!Holy Moses great jumpin' hollygoshenz.
but Geo. has a flaute........or, flute.
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 9:24:51 GMT
OK. Now, Strawberry Fields. Yes, yes, the orphanage next door to where John grew up. Pluasible, and true. Double application. www.hotelsatanywhere.com/usa/ca/los-angeles-hotels/0-54343/ Highlight and drag into your browser. So, Hollywood, west Hoolywood, etc, probably Forest Lawn Cemetary--used to be---what--giant strawberry fields. So, Strawberry Fields--Forever. |
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 9:31:23 GMT
Brief Description
The Roosevelt Hotel is Hollywood's only historic hotel still in operation today - having just celebrated its 75th anniversary with a $15 million renovation. At the dawn of Hollywood's golden sound era, the Roosevelt Hotel sprang out of sprawling strawberry fields to become world-renowned as the "Home of the Stars" and as the first home of the Academy Awards. Our legendary Blossom Room remains a favored place for movie and television industry events. Come experience why the leading lights of the silver screen have returned here time and again for more than 75 years. We're easy to remember... and hard to forget.From down-filled duvets to dual-line phones, this nostalgic Hollywood landmark is a rare combination of old-fashioned glamour and the latest technological conveniences. The Roosevelt Hotel's 302 newly renovated guest rooms and poolside Cabanas are designed to accommodate your individual style and taste. With a host of on-site amenities, your stay here will make you feel like a star. Some guestrooms offering views of Grauman's Chinese theater, the Hollywood sign and the Hollywood hills, some facing Downtown L.A., and some offering balconies or patios overlooking our swimming pool.* Including 24 one-bedroom suites (eight of which can be joined with another room to become two-bedroom suites)* Including 56 junior suites with either king bed or double bed configurations (some with two bathrooms)**THE POOL IS CURRENTLY CLOSED FOR RENOVATION.**
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 3, 2005 9:48:17 GMT
Go here: www.hollywood-underground.com/articles.htmto read this: In Death, He Wants to Be Celebrated By Geoff Boucher Times Staff Writer January 15, 2005 Lions of literature and war heroes get grand memorials, but rock stars usually get scruffier send-offs — consider the years of vandalism inflicted on Jim Morrison's grave in Paris or the fact that Kurt Cobain is celebrated in his hometown by a papier-mache statue in a muffler shop. Johnny Ramone wanted better, and on Friday the underground rock hero got it. The 55-year-old Ramone, who died four months ago in Los Angeles of cancer, spent the final weeks of his life buying legacy insurance in the form of a $100,000 bronze statue of himself, which was unveiled Friday on a prime plot at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery. The gleaming statue, which shares real estate with the headstones of Tyrone Power and Rudolph Valentino, arrived with a star-studded ceremony, some R-rated eulogies and about 1,000 cheering fans. Ramone, for the uninitiated, was the former construction worker who as a young man taught himself to play guitar, and in a band called the Ramones played deliriously fast and loud music that was at the center of the American punk movement that rattled the 1970s music scene. That legacy brought a crowd to the proceedings Friday unlike that usually seen among the reflecting ponds at Hollywood Forever. There was even a T-shirt sales booth and roaring Harley-Davidson engines that gave a rare fright to geese that skim the pond behind the statue. Ramone had been inspired to craft the entire event while he watched the state funeral of former President Reagan from his bed at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. His widow, Linda Ramone, said she repeatedly assured her ailing husband that the price tag was worth it because it would be "bigger than Jim Morrison's grave." Ramone is not the first musician or even the first Ramone in the cemetery; bandmate Dee Dee Ramone, who died of a drug overdose in 2001, is nearby. But Johnny arrived with the loudest moving-in party and the most dramatic architecture. "He's in very good company," said Theodore Hovey, who nodded toward the more sedate masonry marking the plots of Ramone's nearest neighbors, among them Fay Wray and Hattie McDaniel. Ramone's path to Hollywood Forever was an odd one. He was a blue-collar kid who used his military academy background to become the drill-sergeant figure in a band whose members had pre-music hobbies such as sniffing glue and bombing New York pedestrians with televisions dropped from rooftops. He was hailed at the proceedings by film and music stars, among them Oscar-winner Nicolas Cage, who imagined young children skipping over the headstones of Old Hollywood and going straight to the Ramone plot. "Who's the guy with the guitar and the leather jacket and the funny-looking haircut? I want to be that guy." The guitarist, born John Cummings in Long Island (all the band members adopted the surname Ramone, which they had heard Paul McCartney used as an alias while traveling), was full of attitude. That was reflected in the ceremony.Actor Vincent Gallo struck a frequent theme when he described his late friend as intellectually fierce, stridently opinionated and always confident in his status as a rock legend. "What good things can I say about Johnny Ramone that he didn't say about himself?" Ramone was famously right-wing in a rock scene that always exits stage left, and that, along with his crusty exterior, made him an intimidating character to many. But Eddie Vedder, lead singer of the band Pearl Jam, in a halting voice, described him not only as a "strict teacher" but also as an affectionate father figure. Three of the band's four original members have died in recent years, even as the Ramones' music enjoyed a renaissance. Grammy-winning producer Rick Rubin, who sat near members of the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Lisa-Marie Presley during the proceedings, said the music of the Ramones was as influential within the rock world as the Beatles, but the mainstream didn't notice. "There was the music before them and the music after," he said after the event. Earlier in the afternoon, the last survivor from the original line-up, Tommy Ramone, mused that the memorial was not for the man as much as it was for the idea of Johnny Ramone. "He wanted the fans to have a place to come and a way to feel in touch with this music that got so many things right." But punk rock was counterculture; how can its hero end up amid manicured hedges? The question was met with a friendly shrug by Steve Jones, the former guitarist of the Sex Pistols and the British punk equivalent to Ramone. "It's all show business. I want a statue over there. Only a bigger one." |
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Post by Jilli on Feb 3, 2005 10:38:42 GMT
Wow Perplexed that fits good. I couldnt get some of these web pages...like the one for the mayor...but guess what...it was edited 2/2/05.
i couldnt get the hotels web page either but i did look up the Roosevelt Hotel. Awesome job
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.......a la Andy Capp's wife?///
Squeak!