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Post by SunKing on Oct 24, 2003 21:27:53 GMT
George Harrison Brainwashed Any comment? |
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Post by nash on Oct 24, 2003 21:58:44 GMT
Four crash-test-dummy's and one "half a man" (no arms nor legs). Only three of the dummy's plus the "half a man" have a star on them. But probably I'm seeing to much into it.
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Post by SunKing on Oct 24, 2003 22:08:58 GMT
Nash: [glow=red,2,300]WELCOME![/glow] Not too much. You haven't seen the turned off television 
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Post by JamesPaul & Brian on Oct 24, 2003 22:53:12 GMT
It seems to me a parody of "Sgt. Pepper" front cover. The turned off television is the bass drum |
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 25, 2003 1:44:03 GMT
Well, I see a "nuclear" family of sorts, some seated on those God-awful uncomfortable folding chairs, and expressionlessly supporting the very beast that renders them spiritually incapacitated. The primary lighting, in amber, orange-reddish hues, appears to come starkly from the right, our right. The stars are created by use of a Gobo, a small insert panel that attaches to, I think it is, either a fresnel lighting instrument, or maybe a lico lighting instrument (spelling may be wrong). The panel has tiny cut outs of star shapes, which are then usually filled with a colored gel (or not). The light that goes thru the open or gelled areas forms the stars on the subjects in the picture. The panel is usually no bigger than a few inches either way. Distance makes the images spread out hence bigger by diffusion. That picture, I estimate, is without post-production effects. The stars were shot as seen in real time. They probably just wanted to make sure that a couple of them hit the TV screen.
I guess the symbolic message is "People can be brainwashed about "stars" by the media.
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Post by raymi46 on Oct 25, 2003 4:01:48 GMT
Perplexed
That was a good interpretation.
I wonder why the tv is turned screen outward however...like they were trying to project their lifeless(souless selves) thru it? It's definitely a cool image.
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 25, 2003 4:21:58 GMT
The crash dummy manniquins hold it up for display.
"Stage" license. We, as the audience to the picture, need to clearly see the dummy and the TV. If it were turned away from us, a lot of viewers of the picture wouldn't know what it is.
Like actors in a stage play, they often turn and face out, delivering their lines directly to the house, the audience. Even if the actor they are addressing is beside or behind them. It is "staging" license for clarity. Sometimes things are presentned to us so that it is assured that most everyone GETS IT. Positioning and such like that isn't always a clue. The back of the TV might just look like a "box"to some people.
"Hey, Eunice, why are they holdin' that box?"
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Post by SAPA on Oct 25, 2003 8:46:46 GMT
Also only 4 SHADOWS  Is this shadow for real or is the result of post production?  |
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 25, 2003 9:59:09 GMT
Well, of course the seating arrangement coupled with he lighting design prevent dummy on the right from having a wall shadow. He has some partial shadows on his dummy friends however, and floor.
Gosh, though, the lighting IS haunting. A good lighting tech could read that scene down right. Any present? Just a layman's guess--I think the shadows are natural. The eerie quality comes from the single light source. They found a Psycho angle for the light to hang at though!
And just what is holding up that TV??? Certainly not the dummies!!! Those are real special dummies then. The two end ones appear to be balancing the TV, sharing the weight on their legs!!!Ha ha ha.
Which just goes to show that any souless, mindless dummy can manipulate a television.
Perhaps the two dummies seated are two people in dummy costumes.
Perhaps they were two regularly dressed humans, who became computer-generated cyber-dummies.
Perhaps the two standing are also humans,(made dummies by CGI) and only the central standing dummy without arms, is a dummy dummy, who didnot need CGI because, well, its already a dummy.
Could CGI make a dummy out of me?
Or shall I just make a dummy out of myself?
Post Script. If t he dummies are CGI, then the shadows have to be as well. So I overrule my first conclusion. SO, the lighting issue is therefore partially artificial, as there are only concocted shadows in the picture, or altered.
Good God..a world where even our shadows are phony.
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Post by Curious on Oct 25, 2003 13:23:45 GMT
If you look carefully, the TV is actually floating a fraction in the air. I think the whole pic is CGI.
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Post by Eggman on Oct 25, 2003 14:57:49 GMT
I see five dummies (five Beatles?!!!!), the dummy in the middle is taller than the others  Suspicious..... |
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Post by JakesBrie on Oct 25, 2003 17:00:19 GMT
I see 5 dummies also. If you look carefully you can discern what appear to be three sets of legs behind the seated dummies (maybe not all 6 legs, but the illusion is there).
Althought the title is titillating, I don't think George was referring to the PID mystery, but to the greater mysteries of life that so many miss because they are brainwashed by the grab for cash, the material goods and the dreck we are fed by the media.
That's my take anyway.
Brie
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 25, 2003 23:17:05 GMT
Yes, maybe Faul is only the tip of the iceberg (as far as issues) that George was thinking about.
Yes, maybe the whole picture is CGI. The Gobo effect is curioys, though, because the stars to "lay upon" the three-dimensional surfaces of the picture in an analog, realistic kind of way.
Virtual dummies. My head is spinning.
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Post by joejoe on Oct 26, 2003 4:41:40 GMT
Stars are being projected on the dummies from some source. They are holding a TV, perhaps symbolizing the media giving them a false prominence. The shadows in the background do not match the positions of the dummies, indicating that an illusion is being presented. This represents the BS we are sold every day, and believe in spite of our senses, and power of reason.
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 26, 2003 5:43:00 GMT
Yes, I see what you mean. Sureal shadows--kinda twilight zone.
Leaves you with a funky feeling.........
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Oct 26, 2003 16:14:58 GMT
My impression is, the five mannequinns mean the real Beatles and Faul. The TV is the universal symbol for the "Boob Tube," the idiot box, the brainwashing machine.
The stars and color hues could mean the American flag. We are the most violent nation, haven't ya heard?
I feel it isn't CGA, George probably preferred to work in 'real time' with actual items. Unless the cover was designed after his death by Dhanni, working from George's instructions.
The five characters have GOT to be a Beatle reference...with the tantilizing 5th character added.
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Post by SunKing on Oct 26, 2003 16:49:23 GMT
My impression is, the five mannequinns mean the real Beatles and Faul. The TV is the universal symbol for the "Boob Tube," the idiot box, the brainwashing machine. The stars and color hues could mean the American flag. We are the most violent nation, haven't ya heard? I feel it isn't CGA, George probably preferred to work in 'real time' with actual items. Unless the cover was designed after his death by Dhanni, working from George's instructions. The five characters have GOT to be a Beatle reference...with the tantilizing 5th character added. -perfect as always!-  These were EXACTLY my thoughts too. I need NO MORE E-TRANSLATOR ! ;D |
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Oct 26, 2003 19:17:35 GMT
"anytime at all....
anytime at all, all ya gotta do is call, and I'll be there!"
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 26, 2003 22:41:16 GMT
Ian must be correct.
Very effectively lit realtime image.
Even so, the weight of the TV on flimsy impotent manniquins...
Well, no matter. They figured out a way.
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Post by Darkhorse on Oct 27, 2003 1:21:02 GMT
The question is, is which mannequin is Faul? |
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 27, 2003 2:14:04 GMT
The center one in the back has a neck like a department store manniquin. Does it have legs? Can't tell.
The other four have workable joints.
Maybe this means nothing--maybe it is all they could find to photograph.
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Oct 27, 2003 5:47:34 GMT
Even so, the weight of the TV on flimsy impotent manniquins... Well, no matter. They figured out a way. A very simple but effective effect accomplished with clear plexiglass custom-made stand....makes items appear to 'float' |
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Oct 27, 2003 5:48:18 GMT
The question is, is which mannequin is Faul? The one with no arms; the 'damaged' one... |
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Oct 27, 2003 5:50:50 GMT
The center one in the back has a neck like a department store manniquin. Does it have legs? Can't tell. The other four have workable joints. Maybe this means nothing--maybe it is all they could find to photograph. No way, Jose. EVERYTHING means something on such a monumental album cover such as this; George's last will and testament musically forever. Rest assured this looks EXACTLY as he wished it to. Everything for a reason... AND he's telling us we were 'brainwashed' by the Beatles too, via the FAUL impersonation and the cover-up of Paul's death. He is coming clean; owning up to it. He expects his listeners to be sharp and clever enough to work it out for themselves...  |
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Post by Scatterdome on Oct 27, 2003 7:30:27 GMT
No way, Jose. EVERYTHING means something on such a monumental album cover such as this; George's last will and testament musically forever. Rest assured this looks EXACTLY as he wished it to. Everything for a reason... AND he's telling us we were 'brainwashed' by the Beatles too, via the FAUL impersonation and the cover-up of Paul's death. He is coming clean; owning up to it. He expects his listeners to be sharp and clever enough to work it out for themselves... Absolutely. I think the Beatles all wanted us to learn the concept that powerful people really can brainwash entire populations through the media; that is why they were willing to risk their reputations by gambling on the Faul plan, and that is why they intentionally gave us Illuminati-style consistent, symbolic clues throughout the years. They believed they were saving the world! And here's evidence that George did in particular: "With our love we could save the world / If they only knew" -- "Within You Without You," 1967. (Check out the rest of the song! Posted in the fourth post of the thread at this link: 60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=paul&thread=1063892646&start=45 ) Nobody in the Beatles' inner circle has come forward to this day because they know that part of the Beatles' plan was that the longer the Beatles could successfully fool the world with Faul, the more powerful the lesson would be for the world. AND they knew the truth of the switch would eventually come out, ensured as the years passed by their numerous clues and the inevitable improvement of technology! "All things must pass..." My impression is, the five mannequinns mean the real Beatles and Faul. The TV is the universal symbol for the "Boob Tube," the idiot box, the brainwashing machine. The stars and color hues could mean the American flag. We are the most violent nation, haven't ya heard? The five characters have GOT to be a Beatle reference...with the tantilizing 5th character added. Hmmm.... John, George, Ringo, Paul, and tall Faul depicted standing together.... AWAY IN THE SKY, beyond the clouds, live 4 or 5 magicians. (from the MMT inner booklet, next to the "Little Nicola" clue.) There is an-depth discussion about the "4 or 5 magicians" who the Beatles themselves told us created the "Magical Mystery Tour" album in another thread at this link: 60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=paul&thread=1063892646&action=display&start=15 |
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