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Post by gracemer on Jun 12, 2004 2:26:14 GMT
This avenue hasn't been explored to my knowledge. Paul was sick, he said something wrong, could have been on a bad trip, refused Illuminati control that seemed inevitable and his family would be grateful for any story put out that covered it up. Any takers?
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Post by Perplexed on Jun 12, 2004 6:49:19 GMT
Well, only to comment that suicide would have been a very good reason to cover up Paul's death. Imagine the effect of that news on teens worldwide? Especially English speaking countries?
Would have had a potentially scary effect on many youth populations. That would be news best not told., especially at that time.
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Post by gracemer on Jun 12, 2004 9:08:40 GMT
Yes, a suicide would have been a shameful thing to the family. It could keep them quiet. People in the know also wouldn't have fear or resentment towards the replacement under those circumstances, which could explain why the family continued to look close and loving after Paul's death. Did anyone determine just how sick Paul was the last year of his life?
I admit the suicide theory is weak, but it's not without merit.
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Post by SunKing on Jun 12, 2004 13:30:25 GMT
 ... Just Like Dylan's Mr. Jones ? ! ? ! ? Here it is... You walk into the room
With your pencil in your hand
You see somebody naked
And you say, "Who is that man?"
You try so hard
But you don't understand
Just what you'll say
When you get home
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You raise up your head
And you ask, "Is this where it is?"
And somebody points to you and says
"It's his"
And you say, "What's mine?"
And somebody else says, "Where what is?"
And you say, "Oh my God
Am I here all alone?"
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You hand in your ticket
And you go watch the geek
Who immediately walks up to you
When he hears you speak
And says, "How does it feel
To be such a freak?"
And you say, "Impossible"
As he hands you a bone
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You have many contacts
Among the lumberjacks
To get you facts
When someone attacks your imagination
But nobody has any respect
Anyway they already expect you
To just give a check
To tax-deductible charity organizations
You've been with the professors
And they've all liked your looks
With great lawyers you have
Discussed lepers and crooks
You've been through all of
F. Scott Fitzgerald's books
You're very well read
It's well known
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Well, the sword swallower, he comes up to you
And then he kneels
He crosses himself
And then he clicks his high heels
And without further notice
He asks you how it feels
And he says, "Here is your throat back
Thanks for the loan"
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Now you see this one-eyed midget
Shouting the word "NOW"
And you say, "For what reason?"
And he says, "How?"
And you say, "What does this mean?"
And he screams back, "You're a cow
Give me some milk
Or else go home"
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Well, you walk into the room
Like a camel and then you frown
You put your eyes in your pocket
And your nose on the ground
There ought to be a law
Against you comin' around
You should be made
To wear earphones
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
...there is ANOTHER CLUE for you all....... ....all wriitten in the White Album lyrics (and Poster)... |
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Post by BillyJones on Jun 12, 2004 16:23:41 GMT
You all lost me somewhere   |
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Post by unrepentant on Jun 12, 2004 23:39:52 GMT
paul did not commit suicide [excuse me, i should have said "COMPLETE" suicide]. i
'll believe that john killed him before i believe THAT.
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Post by madtitan125 on Jun 13, 2004 1:05:13 GMT
Hi Everyone!
I was just discussing this possibility with my son Jude (yes, he's named after the song!) the other day.
There is a file-sharing program called WinMx v 3.31 you can download free of charge.
While going through the available Beatles downloads, I noticed there is an unreleased song entitled "Suicide".
Wouldn't be surprised at all.....
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Post by eyeon the truth on Jun 13, 2004 2:34:37 GMT
wow... i just downloaded "suicide"...strange song indeed. Its impossible for me to be sure but at 19 seconds someone (sounds like john) says "Faul". I listened to it about 20 times. It sounds like "Faul" there is no "puh" sounds that i can pick up on. I just listened it 3 more times (as to avoid looking like an idiot) and im convinced. he says faul. wow. here, take a listen. tell me in not crazy. please. www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=1314763&q=Hi - high quality www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=1314763&q=Lo - for my 56k friends. |
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Post by gracemer on Jun 13, 2004 3:02:08 GMT
I have a book that purports to contain every song ever written or recorded by the Beatles. "Suicide" isn't among them even though I just listened to the sound clip. Is it a Lennon song after the breakup? And it did sound like John said "Faul" or "fall."
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Post by PaulBearer on Jun 13, 2004 5:21:07 GMT
Is Mr. Jones actually Brian Jones, who died under mysterious cirumstances? Is he the one that saw something wrong with Paul; something was happening here but he didn't know what it was...? How I have had another thought. Now just remember this is purely SPECULATION but... Was Brian Jones replaced? |
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Post by yellowsub2 on Jun 14, 2004 6:41:59 GMT
Could this song 'suicide' be an unreleased jam or something rather than an unreleased song? or could it be by klaatu?
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Post by BillyJones on Jun 14, 2004 15:00:39 GMT
I'm with unrepentant on this one.
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Post by BillyJones on Jun 14, 2004 15:12:45 GMT
Eyeon the truth - you are NOT nuts. However, I had already researched the "Suicide session " awhile ago. 1st, it's George talking about the Caravelle girls. I believe they were English models in the 1960's. You can hear him going through the pages of the magazine. He sounds so young. So innocent. A little later you can hear a small child say daddy. I believe that child was Julian. The kid sounds no older than 3. John Charles Julian Lennon was born April 8th, 1963. I would guess that this would date the "Suicide session" to sometime after April 1966. It is Paul singing. I listened to what you thought was Faul. I COULD hear the P. It was George talking to Paul about the Caravelle girls in the magazine. Thanks so much for bringing up this song session again. Paul sings that song with such joy. John was being obnoxious & cursing up a storm. Paul just ignored him & started singing his song !!! Paul had such style, such class. We'll never see another like him  |
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Post by BillyJones on Jun 14, 2004 15:15:11 GMT
I don't remember John saying Faul or Paul. I do hear George saying it. I have to listen to it again If John said Fall it has to be a coincidence. I truly believe that it is the one TRUE James Paul McCartney singing that snippet of song. It's not listed in your chronology, gracemer, because they never had the chance to record it as a group |
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Post by SilverBeatle on Jun 14, 2004 15:51:32 GMT
Maybe I'm wrong but isn't the term "Faul" (i.e. "FAlse-paUL") a creation of this forum? It would almost certainly have to be "fall" or "Paul" that is heard on the recording.
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Post by eyeon the truth on Jun 14, 2004 18:11:58 GMT
Maybe I'm wrong but isn't the term "Faul" (i.e. "FAlse-paUL") a creation of this forum? It would almost certainly have to be "fall" or "Paul" that is heard on the recording. yeah i figured this as well, but you never know. im sure it is a coincidence, but i thought it was interesting enough to post about. thanks! |
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Post by SunKing on Jun 14, 2004 18:42:44 GMT
paul did not commit suicide [excuse me, i should have said "COMPLETE" suicide]. i 'll believe that john killed him before i believe THAT. The same here... "Feel so suicidal".....doesn't mean "He committed suicide" Maybe he dared to do a thing forbidden by his physical conditions like.....to brawl the Sylvie Vartan's man on a French hill..... MAYBE..... 2 Wives and Kid to support |
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Post by lorraine on Jun 15, 2004 12:06:54 GMT
From which disease did suffer you it to arrive from there at this committing suicide? a fatal disease undoubtedly....... |
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Post by Palin on Jun 15, 2004 12:27:24 GMT
Maybe I'm wrong but isn't the term "Faul" (i.e. "FAlse-paUL") a creation of this forum? It would almost certainly have to be "fall" or "Paul" that is heard on the recording. No, SilverBeatle, the word "Faul" was taken from the 60IF document where it states that Lennon used to call Paul's replacement "Faul" or "Faux". I'm suspicious about the latter as IMO it's only been used populalry as an alternative to "false" in the last few years. This is one of my gripes with the 60IF doc. |
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Post by SilverBeatle on Jun 15, 2004 13:56:44 GMT
Indeed...you are correct Palin. My mistake.
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Post by BillyJones on Jun 15, 2004 14:11:07 GMT
S.K you TOTALLY lost me. Who is Sylvie Vartan? I thought John wrote that song, Yer Blues. Are you saying that is a James Paul McCartney composition? I can't see Paul writing something like that.
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Post by SunKing on Jun 15, 2004 14:41:34 GMT
S.K you TOTALLY lost me. Who is Sylvie Vartan? I thought John wrote that song, Yer Blues. Are you saying that is a James Paul McCartney composition? I can't see Paul writing something like that. No, it's a FULL John Lennon's composition. He (John) describes the James Paul condition after "that" incident... My mother was of the sky
My father was of the earth
Just James Paul's condition.... Ooh girl you know the reason why....that girl = Sylvie Vartan?   A Sylvie replica? Please note: "The Fool On The Hill" sequence was filmed on French hills......it was THE ONLY ONE in Magical Mystery Tour Film outside England.... Why? "All You Need is Love" starts with the French hymn Why? BTW please check Sylvie's look change after September 1966...... |
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Post by BillyJones on Jun 15, 2004 14:57:04 GMT
S.K. - I won't even pretend that I know a 10th or what YOU know about the Beatles. Still, I can't help but feel that you're not spot on about this. I think that John was describing how he himself felt, after Paul's death. He also was known for calling Paul "girl" because of Paul's delicate features. I think he's singing Yer Blues to Paul !
Just IMHO of course!
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Post by SunKing on Jun 15, 2004 15:06:33 GMT
COME TOGETHERHere come old flattop he come grooving up slowly He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller He got hair down to his knee Got to be a joker he just do what he please He wear no shoeshine he got toe-jam football He got monkey finger he shoot coca-cola He say "i know you, you know me" One thing I can tell you is you got to be free Come together right now over me He bag production he got walrus gumboot He got ono sideboard he one spinal cracker He got feet down below his knee Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease Come together right now over me He roller-coaster he got early warning He got muddy water he one mojo filter He say "one and one and one is three" Got to be good-looking ’cause he’s so hard to see Come together right now over me ....both about THE SAME subject.... ... the eagle picks my eye (not my eyes).... ... He got joo-joo eyeball .....  can you see the " joo-joo eyeball"? ...Don't you thing the joker laughs at you?... from "I Am The Walrus" ...and the " joker smile" " One thing I can tell you is you got to be free...from James Paul's TERRIBLE disease?
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Post by BillyJones on Jun 15, 2004 18:21:36 GMT
S.K. that's just one interpretation. John might also have been talking about his own addiction to heroin. He sure looked bad at that time! Since some of the words are obviously gibberish & some can be interpreted the way you just said, it's really anybody's guess what Johnny REALLY meant.
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