Most official history is false. This forum is dedicated to the untold story of The Beatles.
All of the Beatles and many other people who were close to them had doubles or impersonators who acted as them for varying lengths of time. Our aim here is to expose the differences between the original people and their doubles.
NEW EVIDENCE ABOUT FAUL'S "SECRET" LIFE BEFORE THE BEATLES
We have new information about Faul's life as an SOE agent long before he met The Beatles. Please see this thread for more information and photographic evidence. Many years later on he used the identity of "Neil Aspinall" to position himself within The Beatles circle. Also see here for more evidence that the impersonators for Paul and Brian were actually S.O.E. (Special Operations Executive) agents!
Other celebrity replacements include Sylvie Vartan, Sylvester Stallone, Faye Dunaway, and Marianne Faithful
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Re: Confused about clues from Revolver and earlier « Result #1 Yesterday at 1:57pm »
Listen to The Beatles BBC sessions I heard that Ringo wrote Don't Pass me By before 1966, but it didn't fit in with the early material, as was the case with One after 909. I thought Drive My Car, didn't refer to the crash but showed Paul's preference to not driving himself unless he had to.
Re: Did anyone else find this weird!! « Result #2 Yesterday at 1:48pm »
This is the same footage where he is supposedly asked 'Are you original or are you a double?' to which Faul replies ' It's a secret....I can't tell you' . Maybe the Russian accent distorts the English meaning, or does he assume for security reasons that McCartney has a stand in, like Saddam Hussein used to use.
Re: Brian Wilson and Sgt. Pepper Reaction « Result #3 on Nov 18, 2009, 6:50am »
One PID documentary suggests The Beatles were about to call their album Smile at the time of Paul's demise. It wasn't Pepper that brought Brian's breakdown but bad experiences with LSD that gave him nightmare trips. McCartney was a big fan of Brian's and attended his finished Smile in 2005. The other connection is in 1966 Brian constantly wore a fireman's helmet in the recording studio and in films, and now Paul goes under that name, but claims it from the line in Penny Lane.
Re: Pictures in the life of... « Result #4 on Nov 16, 2009, 7:29am »
My two cents:
Yes we do have plenty of evidence short of just two things which is DNA and Fingerprints. I am on to one of these now. I do agree with your statement to concentrate on what can be proven, but when proven it better be downright authentic or anyone who makes an accusation will be put to pasture indeed broken for life.
We are now up against a Billionaire who is alleged to be a fake, and with that kind of money if he feels anyone are on to him and getting too close for his comfort no doubt some kind of accident will take place to eliminate the threat of exposure.
Besides him being the Billionaire, you also got corporations and recording industry behind him that is also worth multi-billions combined.
This is a colossal empire and its no easy task to bring it down. You will need more than just a few nuke revelations to bring this down. In order for this to happen one would need a hell of a lot of cooperation and you will need to protect all that evidence otherwise it will get destroyed by the seekers to protect the empire. Not to mention it will also take a huge amount of guts to withstand the pressure that will mount upon that person, and one will become a easy target for some bullseye target practice so one will need to have extensive military training, CIA training and a host of survival links to move around especially on the financial side otherwise that person will become a sitting duck. If one makes it that far when it comes to the court showdown, you can bet many will try to prevent the appearance.
Something similar to the past called Chicago Gangster Era.
So for this to happen, you need more than just Interpol, you need more than just a few police agencies to get involved, you will need FBI, CIA and the News Media and all those who know the real true Paul McCartney to step forward and make such announcement together to really make it happen and they all have to have the same agenda in mind. Now you tell me who would be interested to bring down this kind of money making Empire without someone who just might happen to double cross you and put the tail between your legs.
Bottom line is one will need a lot of very private logistics to survive once you begin to attempt to expose the Faul, and believe me with all his kind of connections, and the empires kind of connections they can guarantee your erasure on this planet in short notice.
So as I have said before is this main question: Who wants to make the first move, who has the brains and has the logistics both materially and financially and has the ability to play dodgeball and avoid getting framed for this and for that when it begins and has the mental capacity to withstand intense pressure of many sleepness nites, looking over your shoulder etc and etc and live long enough to show up in court to make the exposure official once and for all. Even if you succeed and is able to expose the fake, now your talking of multi-billions here of a fallout and surely it will go around the entire world like a huge 2012 earthquake. What i am saying here is you will then have a lot of angry investers and money makers so pissed off yes you will be a target for life and they will not rest until they hunt you down and finish you off permanently.
What is the use??? Hmmmmm, with so much at stake here, yes for the sake of our comfort, we know he is a fake, we know he is a fraud and I suppose we can take that as our only means of consolation and bury our beloved true Paul McCartney in our minds in a respectable manner and give him some peace and repose that he deserves.
Well I was only speculating if I was in England etc etc. I know the real Paul's brother is very reclusive and its extremely very hard to even get a photo shot of him. If it was that easy the paprozzi boys would have had hundreds of photos of him to splash around the magazines or whatever.
So I was simply guessing that if he had to meet this fake Paul anywhere he sure as heck is not going to expose himself wide open at least during the day time, and if he was to meet him it would definitely be late at night time under cover of darkness and at some very private area.
My guess on that pic shot, the fake was talking to some business people who might have clout behind them such as involved in the recording or concert industry or something else. I would guess it has to be someone who is important enough to even let them pay him a visit. That pic was taken during daytime. What bothers me is why didn't anyone get a shot of this guy walking around the corner to his car where they could have gotten a snapshot of his face rather than his back???? See what I mean.
Daveyo
We don't have all the best pictures of some things, I guess? But I see what you mean. We aren't just gonna have every image come easliy to us here at the forum; we are lucky to have what we have here and at the JPM site and of course NIR.
Re: Who is the man? « Result #7 on Nov 8, 2009, 5:35am »
Hi
Well I was only speculating if I was in England etc etc. I know the real Paul's brother is very reclusive and its extremely very hard to even get a photo shot of him. If it was that easy the paprozzi boys would have had hundreds of photos of him to splash around the magazines or whatever.
So I was simply guessing that if he had to meet this fake Paul anywhere he sure as heck is not going to expose himself wide open at least during the day time, and if he was to meet him it would definitely be late at night time under cover of darkness and at some very private area.
My guess on that pic shot, the fake was talking to some business people who might have clout behind them such as involved in the recording or concert industry or something else. I would guess it has to be someone who is important enough to even let them pay him a visit. That pic was taken during daytime. What bothers me is why didn't anyone get a shot of this guy walking around the corner to his car where they could have gotten a snapshot of his face rather than his back???? See what I mean.
Re: Paul and Faul « Result #8 on Nov 8, 2009, 5:13am »
Hi nvanity
The examples given to you by SunKing, is quite obvious and really if you watch the Faul closely he really was not singing but lip syncing to the music but the people there, were oblivious to that fact because even as I watched it, he was off key several times and it not match. This is the Faul or the fake one that we today are seeing around the one and the very same fake since the real Paul McCartney died in around September of 1966.
What burns me up is no one has the guts to step forward to expose this S.O. B. Yet at the same time, many people who are alive now would be put in danger of their lives, and the multi- millions of dollars involved and the implications of this fraud caused by this imposter being exposed would be tantemount to the biggest of all time!!!!!
I myself know the real Paul himself, cause I did see him in 66 and 65, but became suspicious beginning in 67 and really could not figure it all out, yet the person all these years did look very strange but could not quite put my finger on it exactly why I had the big ? mark in my head.
When I came into this site, bingo, everything all fell into place and it all made sense.
Ah your only 19, and honestly you missed the biggest era of all time, from mid 64 up to mid 84. Man it was the best time of my entire life and talk about the fun I had in those days and also seeing and being a witness of the tremendous change not only the way society went about its business but how the music industry changed the entire world to what it is today.
The crap today from many musicians and the punk rock and the baggies they have and what they wear today, none of them are any good. They cannot even perform let alone sing right at all. Its pathetic. During the 70's it was one rocking era and the music that came out cannot be duplicated and the groups that came out were so professional it was awesome.
If you not believe me, just check out Earth Wind and Fire and if you get a chance go to one of their concert shows in USA. They are a show group and a performing group and they are so good they will literally blow away your mind and play and sing all the while doing their dancing and movements etc. I myself also was in a band that did the same thing in the 70's and its very difficult to do and be in sync and the timing requiring many hours of practice and practice and practice until it becomes second nature. My band was called the Chicago Express and we were quite popular with sell out crowds for 4-5 years straight hitting the circuit between Chicago and Milwaukee. After that we broke up due to private reasons. One of them was the time so consumed to perfect our performances and etc., and we had to also work for a living too and the demand involved simply wore us out. I played the Bass, and my band members were John as the drummer, Greg as the organist, Mo was the singer, and Hawk was the guitar player. I got pics of myself and my performances too with me, and thank goodness for them because it sure brings back the good ol' days. I can understand why the Beatles quit and said no more concerts after their San Francisco gig in 1966. When I performed I hardly ever looked to see where my left hand was on the fret board. I simply knew it by virtual memory.
In that video you see given by Sun King notice the Real Paul not having to look at his bass as he performed and sang the song and then you see the Fake Faul having to always look down as he places his hands. The real Paul knew that song by virtual memory. This comes after repeatly playing the same song hundreds of times prior and it becomes second nature. The fake did not know that song by virtual memory. Musicians can see this difference quite clearly. Not to mention his face was way way off and not even close to the real Paul himself.
Being as simple as they were as a group, the Beatles when they played at Shea Stadium in 65, with all those screaming fans surrounding them, they barely heard themselves and they had to play based on virtual memory. They only had 100 watt Vox amplifiers around them which is quite small by todays standards, and used microphones next to it to send it out to the stadium speakers which was so poor it indeed was barely enough for the fans to hear them play. Today you can have a 8000 watt or more to boom out the sound if you want and the systems used today to get the sound out is by far one of the best so you not need to have huge wattage speakers yourself. 200 watt speakers is more than enough for any performing group. My 150 watt speakers is so loud itself it rattles the entire house foundations. I have two sets of speakers. One set holds two 15" woofers, and the other set holds 1 15" and 1 12" woofers for a combined total of 300 watts. I hardly use the dual sets but will use them outside because of the power they put out. Most of the time I use the small one which is the 15 and 12 and I keep that volume down.
Anyway enjoy the site, and do more digging and you will find many interesting things about the Beatles. Actually the Beatles were no angels as a group either. A lot of conflicts were involved during their tenure. Its natural for groups to have conflicts, but most of them break up because of the intense pressure and personalities and desires change over the course of time. I am still quite surprised that Earth Wind and Fire are still around but the key to their success is spreading out their performances far apart and allowing them plenty of private time to be home too between such performances. It does take a lot out of you. Like anything else you will get tired of it and get burned out and simply want to just call it quits. Happens all the time.
Re: Hot As Sun / Glasses « Result #9 on Nov 8, 2009, 3:09am »
Hi;
Read some of your comments. Interesting to say that you might have the first album release of Faul and of his voice.
The voice and vocal octave ranges is your first clue. Compare the octave ranges on the vocals itself.
If you have something like Wavepad by NCH or Zulu DJ software, it would be very interesting for you to sort of broach upon the sound tracks itself.
Everything so far from my investigations, show Paul's voice and vocal octave ranges pretty much remained the same from 62 to end of August of 66. When they made their next appearance in January of 69 during the roof top concert, holy cow, the octave range and voice vocals are totally different coming from this alleged Paul who pops into the scene and this person is much bigger physically as well as his face too.
Now when I checked in prior to 67 of John Lennons voice and vocals they too remained pretty much the same during those same years. When I checked his voice and octave range when he sang in 69 it was IDENTICAL almost a dead match to pre 67 back to 62 especially his talking during the 65 Shea Stadium concert. It did not change at all.
This is your first dead giveaway proof that this person in 69 was not the real Paul but the Faul making his first official appearance live but done on a roof top in January during Frigid weather!!!! Very odd that the Beatles would do something like this to avoid a closer means from the public to scrutinize this new Faul up close for better eye contact.
I myself became very suspicious in 67 when they came out with new songs alleged and sung by Paul McCartney. It did not sound right and not even close and when that voice was merged with John Lennon, wow, totally different.
But I did not know it at the time that something happened to Paul after August of 66. I was very suspicious of it for many many years. When I came upon this site, BAM, things started to happen and the missing pieces and questions that I had all those years started to fall right in like a puzzle.
Ah, yep the Real Paul had damn good looks and a very good facial features. No way would a person who looks that good would want to delve themselves to doing plastic surgery and f**k up their face. So it does make you wonder why this Faul had to do a bunch of plastic surgeries to match the former looks of the missing real Paul McCartney. Right???? Now Michael Jackson did in the early 80's and around the middle part like 85-86 he looked damn good. No pun intended but the plastic surgery did make him look a hell of a lot better. Then he continued to mess with it and subsequently after a few more plastic surgery jobs, he looked very freakish and damn nasty and I could not stand even seeing his pics when he died. He became a freak. In other words he destroyed himself and it was a one way ticket and could not reverse the damage.
Yes George Harrison had the chance to blow the lid wide open, but he elected to take the secret down to his grave to protect his family and also protect the last remaining true Fab 4 being Ringo Starr. Odd that with a house so built like a fortress with anti-intruder gizmos this person who stabbed him inside that home was able to break in and enter that house in spite of all that security he had. This tells me that someone who was paid to protect him became the turncoat and it damn near cost him his life, which points to an inside job. It was right after that attack while in the hospital they also discovered he had Brain Cancer that just started. It would not surprise me that Ringo took note of this as well and I am sure he changes his security people from time to time after a complete background and lie detector check is done on such people.
Anyway, continue to do your research, and I am sure you will be finding many things as you go along.
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Hot As Sun / Glasses « Result #10 on Nov 4, 2009, 4:22pm »
Anyone got any info on the "Glasses" part of this track on the McCartney album (P/Faul's first solo release)? It's beautiful and eerie, very avant-garde and yet fits perfectly with the low-key vibe of the album (which is very influenced by what The Beach Boys were doing in 1967-1969 with the albums Smiley Smile, Wild Honey and Friends).
I read that the piano snippet that arises in it is called "Suicide".
And now he's 67. My brother was born in 1944; he's 65, had dark hair that went totally grey, and looks rather a bit younger than his true age. My guess is that James Paul does, too.
But, about the picture. Hmmm. Back of head. Rings a bell. Hmmm....
I see the imposter is facing the person with his back to the camera. So without getting any kind of shot of that persons face it is hard to speculate.
Michael is very reclusive to the public and very few people have any means to see Michael himself. He basically stays out of sight.
So if he ever sees the imposter it definitely will not be in the day time. They will meet at night time under cover of darkness or when most people are in bed sleeping like from 2 AM to 4 Am.
That much we do know of.
Daveyo
2AM to 4AM? Eastern Standard time? Well, it's just after 2AM here! I should run out into the parking lot and check and see if he's lurking in one of the cars, or behind a bush, or jogging for aerobic improvements.
OK I was tacky, but it would be bizarre to run into any sort of McCartney in my parking lot or in fact, anywhere near by. It would be so unlikely, so coincidental, so not in keeping with the day to day flow that I would have to run back inside my house and do a little dance in my living room while singing:
"I saw a Beatle in my neighborhood, a Beatle in my neighborhood."
My goodness that sounds childish. Well, so? The Beatles music always brought out the fun side of me.
Re: THE DEVIL AND PAUL McCARTNEY « Result #13 on Nov 2, 2009, 12:48pm »
While wading through Rotten Apple on YouTube , it is constantly implied that Faul has satanic persuasions from the carefully styled horned moustache to the horns on the Ram cover. The connection with Alistair Crowley seems to be the cause of the Beatles fascination with backmasking. Some of it was very creepy and Faul is made to look very sinister and the very strange Autumn of 1966 where there was a lot of days not accounted for.
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About PID « Result #14 on Nov 1, 2009, 3:13pm »
Hello, I read through most of this forum and a few others, including the websites they use as sources, a few weeks ago. I was first exposed to the PID theories when I was around age 15. It stuck with me for years since as a peculiar thing worth keeping in mind. When I saw many of the facial comparisons I found myself unable to explain the obvious differences.
"Obvious" is a difficult word here. It's obvious to intuition, the first flash of recognition we get, and it tells most of us here (whether we drank the kool aid or not) that there are two different people. It's also related strongly to the apparent loss of his former very handsome face with the gain of an expression at times goofy, a face cartoonish, and a total loss of real boyish charm. It can be seen best, IMO, in the comparison pictures of Paul with Jane and Faul with Jane. She looks like she's aged a year or two, naturally, but Faul looks like ten years have passed, his face sags and looks flabby and loose, his expression is tired and distant beyond the superficial put on. Drugs MAY be to blame, if it has been Paul all along. If that's the case, I'd argue that 1) drugs 2) an accident requiring plastic surgery or 4) celebrity vain and drugs influence Paul to get plastic surgery in various places, probably later to his regret, haha.
The music is the most difficult aspect. Have you all seen the Let It Be film? Paul and John joke about songs from their childhoods, or discuss each other "as they were" meaning more than just the past year or two that Faul was there. For example, Paul jokes that while watching footage from India of John walking with Maharishi, he didn't look anything like HIMSELF (implying that he was sucking up to the guru or just awed by him and playing the role of starry eyed boy), which would be a strange comment for a Faul to make, no?
And it is very difficult to say with a straight face that the conspirators found a lookalike (who may have fooled the entire world except the alternate theoriests like here or those who saw old Paul and new Paul and swore them to be different people) who could play bass and guitar and piano and sing just as well as Paul. Paul was the best musician in the Beatles, he made John & George look like amateurs on guitar and bass, same with piano, and as he proves on his first solo album and thereafter he can drum just as well as Ringo as far as providing a good beat for a song goes. Paul was always, pre-67 and post-67 the best musician in the Beatles.
And singing ... the voice is strange around the Let It Be era. His shouting-singing voice sounds, at least, very aged. But then again, they were heavy cigarette smokers and Paul is a well-known cannabis smoker. Smoke alters the voice tone.
Re: Why I think Pete Best was replaced « Result #15 on Oct 30, 2009, 1:52pm »
The other Beatles blame George Martin as Martin commented on Pete's timing. In Pete's defence , a great drummer doesn't need to keep a beat as long the snare is not hit at inappropiate moments. Keith Moon's drumming was far from organised. At least Pete can take comfort that he is the sole surviving original Beatle.
Re: Brian Epstein True Story « Result #17 on Oct 23, 2009, 5:30pm »
Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller He got hair down to his knee Got to be a joker he just do what he please ( About Ringo )
He wear no shoeshine he got toe-jam football He got monkey finger he shoot coca-cola He say "I know you, you know me" One thing I can tell you is you got to be free Come together right now over me (About Paul )
He bag production he got walrus gumboot He got Ono sideboard he one spinal cracker He got feet down below his knee Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease Come together right now over me ( About Brian )
He roller-coaster he got early warning He got muddy water he one mojo filter He say "One and one and one is three" Got to be good-looking 'cause he's so hard to see Come together right now over me ( About Faul )
If a confession will ever be made until all in the know have passed on. There are still a lot involved within the Beatles inner circle who are still alive .
Ringo, Jane Asher ,the roadies would have spotted the change immediately . George Martin would have seen the difference in musical ability and would certainly spot Faul from Paul.
Ringo was not an original Beatle, and Pete Best fell out with the group ,and I was happy for him to get paid performing royalties on the Anthology albums, as he missed out on a lot of money.
Not much mention of Paul's brother Mike McGear who was in comedy band Scaffold who would have known Faul was not Paul and a public DNA test between the two would be most conclusive.
Hi Steve,
I do agree on your first paragraph, and if that is the case we are talking a few centuries down the line before its ever revealed. Since we are the first generation we have somewhat a duty ourselves to try to get the record set straight once and for all.
As of the next paragraph you mentioned on the quote, I do believe Ringo knows all about it, since he and George H were the two originals that buried the real Paul while John L was still in London. Two live witnesses have confirmed this particular burial which took place on the outskirts of London back in September of 1966.
As of George Martin, and Epstein and other roadies involved with the Beatles either directly or indirectly, obviously knew about it as well but the silence is deafning so to speak as none wanted to spill the beans at the current time due to royalties involved and other things that can become very messy indeed. You have to also remember at the time this started in 1966, no one had the technology like we have today to prove the differences and also once this got started they could not stop it and cultured it for 3 years and trained the replacement quite well until it became a natural for that person to take over as the Fake has up to this very moment today.
Today every single person involved in the coverup will remain silent as they not want to be facing the huge amount of fraud charges and the incredible domino effect should this get out while they are alive. Their families also will be in the thick of it too.
Yes George H had the opportunity to blow it wide open, but opted to not do it for the sake of his family and the future of his family financial wise. So he took the secret to his grave and was cremated and now his ashes float somewhere around the world.
Ringo and Pete Best and Mike McCartney are the only 3 known people still alive that can still make such official statements including but not limited to George Martin as well. Out of all so named, only Mike McCartney holds all the power and all the cards legally since he is a direct decendent of the real Paul McCartney. He will not do it since he has 6 kids himself. If he dies, then the power will go to the next oldest in his family and etc and etc.
Obtaining some DNA from Mike and the faker, is not that hard to do if one uses some finesse like Mission Impossible did during their T.V series. Michael for the most part prefers to remain well behind the scenes, and as long as Michael is alive the faker is free to continue to perform. If you ever noticed Ringo Starr, he avoids the faker Paul as much as possible. Ringo Starr is the quiet one in the entire group.
The faker not long ago got Yoko pissed off when he tried to flip flop the order of names on the recording and records involving John Lennon. As for Yoko herself, I think she is the one who can and will blow this thing wide open someday, since she has nothing else to lose by the time she is old and frail.
With all the physical evidence saying otherwise, and all the voice recording analysis done on the octave ranges and sounds, saying no match, it does make me wonder what more can be done.
I myself did notice a change in 1967 of some of the songs from Paul, and even on the albums too, but I could not put my finger on it for years until I bumped into this site. Back in 65 and 66 when Paul and John sang together they had a very unique voice octave range that was for the most part consistent for a good 4-5 years. When they both sang again in 69 at the roof top concert, it was a huge difference and the voice octave range of that Paul was definitely not the same as in 66 and 65. Ironically when John Lennon spoke at the end by himself, the voice octave range MATCHED his voice from 66 and 65. Go figure......................
I also watched the hand movements of the fake Paul and it was way off and the physical features was totally different. I think when they did that last and final concert, in 69, it was a specific test to see if the fake Paul can stand up to the intense pressure without the crowd facing him and to see if his singing can measure up after all the intense training and facial surgerys for the last 3 years. The other thing is why they did their gig on a very cold day is beyond me and they did it in January!!! out in the open with that cold wind blowing all around. They never gave it a thought about vocal analysis or octave ranges or the latest computer and bone scans that we can do today to verify a persons identity back in 1969.
I also got a feeling that it was Epstein who thought up of how to replace the fallen Paul and keep the group going and intact. Little did he know he would be dead less than a year later, but never the less I think he was the one who put the seeds into this coverup and OD'd on the drugs later in 67. Also when the group finally found out all about the shady dealings he did against the group, this alone fractured the entire group and they were never able to recover from it. Imagine take a penny and divide it by 4 as their earnings for every record sold, while Epstein got 25% of the entire gross receipts of all the records sold. How would you feel if you found out later on if your manager did this to you and your group. I also think George Martin was one of the key players behind the coverup and he definitely is not going to say anything about it at all. The reasons are quite obvious.
Other than that, so I tend to agree that it will go either of the two directions. One it will take centuries before this is ever revealed or one or someone from the first generation will blow the cover sometime within the next 10 to 20 years.
Brian Epstein True Story « Result #19 on Oct 18, 2009, 4:04pm »
August 24, 2004, 09:00 AM
Beatle Mania in Houston By Dan Lovett
I had no idea how big they were becoming, so thought very little of my contact with the Beatles the evening they arrived in Houston on a hot summer night nearly 40 years ago. It was August 18, 1965 when they landed at Hobby aboard a chartered four engine Electra from Miami.
Much has been written over the years in the local newspapers, remember there was a time when Houston had another paper called the Post, about the Beatles concert dates in Houston. Much of it has been amplified over the years and written by a Features reporter at the Chron named Ken Hoffman, who wasn’t even born when the Fab Four hit the Bayou City. Let me set the record straight for Mr. Hoffman and others who have taken the liberty to make up their own stories. It is of course, not as serious or dishonest as John Kerry’s current lies about his military record, that in his mind are worthy of the Presidency of this country.
Hard to believe it’s been almost 40 years now. Also, it’s hard to believe that Harrison and Lennon are dead. But no one gets out of this life alive, not even Lennon, who at one time said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus.
Beatles Party Ticket
Official Beatles Concert Ticket
Over the years the story has been told, many times, how the late Dickie Rosenfeld brought the Beatles to Houston. That is not true. Rosenfeld was, at the time, the general sales manager of KILT and while he was involved in the event, it was in fact, Bill Weaver, the general manager of KILT, who negotiated the deal with Brian Epstein, the Beatles manager.
Back in 1965 KILT and KNUZ were going head-to-head in the Arbitron ratings for the top prize among Top 40 radio listeners. At KILT, we had such great jocks as Chuck Dunaway, Russ Knight (The Weird Beard) and Bob Pressley. Over at KNUZ, they had Arch Yancey, Joe Ford and the powerful Paul Berlin. It was in fact, Berlin, who thought he had the Beatles locked up for their appearance in Houston, until the money vault of Gordon McLendon was opened. McLendon owned KILT and other highly rated Top 40 stations, among them KLIF in Dallas.
McLendon dispatched Weaver to New York City as the Beatles tour was being put together. Weaver had with him a blank check signed by McLendon and was instructed to have Epstein simply fill in the figure, for the Beatles appearance in Houston. The deal took place in Epstein’s suite at the Plaza Hotel. The Beatles manager agreed to do two shows, plus expenses, and filled in the blank for $125,000. Bill Weaver had the BEATLES for KILT!!!!
In 1965 I was working as a newsman at KILT at 500 Lovett Boulevard. I knew of course who the Beatles were, but my favorites were still Elvis, Buddy Holly and Jerry Lee Lewis. I really had no clue how big this event was at the time. All I knew was that the station program director, Bob White, told the news director, Richard Dobbyns, he wanted a news guy to cover the Beatles arrival. I got the assignment.
There was a mob of close to 4000 screaming teenagers when they arrived at Hobby. It was impossible to get them off the plane. We had to use one of those food catering elevator trucks and load them on for a trip to another part of the airport tarmac and then squeeze them into a single Brinks armored truck. Then we were off to the downtown Sheraton-Lincoln Hotel where they were quickly transferred to a freight elevator from the loading dock and taken to their rooms on the 10th floor.
All of the disc jockey’s at KILT participated in the two shows at the old Sam Houston Coliseum with Russ Knight, the ‘Weird Beard’ and also an original member of the Rock N’ Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland and Chuck Dunaway, the MC’s of both the 3:30 matinee and 8:00 pm evening shows. Tickets cost $5.00 for each performance of the Sixth Annual KILT Back to School Series. Additional money came from tickets sold, but not used as well as 1500 standing-room-only tickets to each show, which Epstein never questioned. Hotel expenses were traded out with the Sheraton for advertising on KILT.
Rental of the Coliseum cost $1500 and police security $2500. KILT donated almost $15,000 to the Houston Farm and Ranch Club, a social organization of the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo.
And here’s another sidebar to the Beatles arrival at Hobby Airport that has never been reported.
As the ‘boys’ were being loaded onto that food catering truck, Epstein fell from the plane as the truck lowered its elevated cargo bed and began pulling away from the planes open door. That left Epstein with one foot in the plane and one foot in the air. He fell about 16 feet and landed on his back and had to be taken to the hospital from Hobby in a taxi. He had a severe spinal injury and really never fully recovered from that fall. Epstein died two years later from a drug overdose, although it has never been determined if it was deliberate or by accident.
Oh, here’s something else never reported, until now, about the Beatles 1965 tour stop in Houston. I rode in the Brinks truck with them to the Sheraton Hotel!
Re: Who is the man? « Result #20 on Oct 17, 2009, 10:16am »
I see the imposter is facing the person with his back to the camera. So without getting any kind of shot of that persons face it is hard to speculate.
Michael is very reclusive to the public and very few people have any means to see Michael himself. He basically stays out of sight.
So if he ever sees the imposter it definitely will not be in the day time. They will meet at night time under cover of darkness or when most people are in bed sleeping like from 2 AM to 4 Am.
Re: HI RES COMPARISON « Result #21 on Oct 17, 2009, 8:07am »
the photo of Michael being with the original Paul is definitely a very priceless photo, with his mother there in the pic.
However his mother is officially dead. That woman you see as the insert is the mother of the fake paul and its a definite match, and not the mother of the real paul.
I have a pic of his father and a pic of Michael who is alive today.
I cannot believe this about witherspoon getting involved because what you are doing is changing a womans voice to a male voice and its impossible due to the octave ranges. Not to mention the age factor that comes into play, and of the legitimate questions so posted by michelle ma belle.
yes there are some woman that have a deep voice such as Suzanne Pleshnette that actress that appeared in Hunter movie series.
I cannot quite really put my finger on it, but there is a photo here in this site that I think was very close to the original paul and that person if chosen did not really need much surgery to look almost identical to the real Paul.
I do know this for absolute certain. When the Beatles appeared in 1969 on the roof top concert that person who played the bass definitely is not the real Paul because the voice octaves recognition does not match to the real paul when he was playing in various concerts in 1966. Ironically at the same token a voice analysis was done on John Lennon at that same performance the voice octaves practically matched to the voice of john in the concerts of 1966.
This proves that the real Paul disappeared and its authentic.
At the same token I dug up a bit on Epstein, and that guy literally ripped the beatles financially. He took 25% of the entire gross income of everything they did and forced the band to pay him for any expenses he paid for them while on the road, whereas the beatles made only peanuts per record sold and only got a tiny portion of income like when they performed at Shea Stadium.
The bottom line > the original fab 4 lost possible millions of dollars to epstein. RIP crook.
The big question now is who is going to step forward and prove and expose this fake??? Who has the guts??
Re: Lindsay Lohan replaced in 2004? « Result #22 on Oct 16, 2009, 6:11am »
In the news:
"Michael Lohan Apologizes Publicly to Lindsay Lohan
Michael Lohan will be on E!'s "Daily 10" tonight to issue a public apology to his daughter Lindsay. Some of the words of wisdom he'll be sharing:
“Lindsay, I love you with all my heart. And I’m sorry about being so public about certain things. But when I’m with you, when I was with you, out in LA, and I looked into your eyes I didn’t see the girl I brought up or the girl that was so gifted and talented during the years of ‘The Parent Trap,’ ‘Freaky Friday,’ ‘Mean Girls.’ And I’m not going to stand here and watch my daughter get destroyed anymore.”
“I mean, it’s got to stop. Do you see the same Lindsay now that you saw when she was acting? Do you think she can act like she used to? No! There’s no way, It’s a hollow, vacant body. You hold that body – it’s a broke body, a broken spirit in side. There’s nothing there. Nothing. It killed me. It literally killed me holding her in my arms. No father wants to feel death in a kid that’s always so alive. And I’m pissed – at myself too – for letting us go through a divorce. But that’s what happens to kids when they get divorced. They suffer, not us.”
Of course since the real LINDSAY is gone. One way or another...
Re: Who is the man? « Result #23 on Oct 11, 2009, 2:23pm »
For someone who is trying to prove PIA he is not choosing his words carefully. I found an old interview from last year, and he is still obsessed with cars. Remember 'Helen Wheels' read Hell on Wheels.
Re: About the Real Paul McCartney « Result #24 on Oct 11, 2009, 2:16pm »
If a confession will ever be made until all in the know have passed on. There are still a lot involved within the Beatles inner circle who are still alive . Ringo, Jane Asher ,the roadies would have spotted the change immediately . George Martin would have seen the difference in musical ability and would certainly spot Faul from Paul. Ringo was not an original Beatle, and Pete Best fell out with the group ,and I was happy for him to get paid performing royalties on the Anthology albums, as he missed out on a lot of money. Not much mention of Paul's brother Mike McGear who was in comedy band Scaffold who would have known Faul was not Paul and a public DNA test between the two would be most conclusive.
Well, to each his own but Im 100% sure PAUL is dead since that fateful 1966. As for DANELLI, definitely, he took Paul's place for a little while. At least in pictures if not on the stage or else...
------------ A ----------------------- B ----------------------- C ----------------------- D -----------
Mr. "A" is Paul McCartney
Mr. "B" is the guy among The Rascals on a photo surely taken after 1966
Mr. "C" is the guy called today "Dino Danelli"
Mr. "D" is the guy called today "Paul McCartney"
____________________________________________
Mr "C" could NOT be Mr. "B"
Mr "D" could NOT be Mr. "A"
Mr. "B" could WELL be Mr. "A" just with contact lenses on
I can agree with you khamira.
But now if some "PIA" shows some comparison about Paul after 1966 we KNOW there was ONE quite identical around.
Re: I am he as you are he as you are me « Result #26 on Oct 7, 2009, 3:46am »
Well, to each his own but Im 100% sure PAUL is dead since that fateful 1966. As for DANELLI, definitely, he took Paul's place for a little while. At least in pictures if not on the stage or else...
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Righty vs Lefty « Result #30 on Sept 20, 2009, 3:49pm »
Hello everyone! This is my first time posting to the forum. I have spent the past few days reading this forum and the related sites. I have to say, I find the photographic evidence compelling. I also find many of the postulates made, however, not as believeable. It is an interesting subject, and am much in favor of hard evidence available, in a scientific process of researching it. One such recurring doubt I come across is the issue of right vs. left handedness. It may be a red herring to speculate on the issue, as I can personally testify. Perhaps my perspective can shed some light on the issue.
I am left handed. I write, draw, paint, use a computer mouse, eat, and smoke left handed. In many other facets of life, however, I am right "bodied". I swing a ball bat, punch, shoot a basketball, throw a football, carrying a guitar case, etc. with my right hand. Another interesting point is that I play guitar and bass right-handed. This may be because it is the way I started playing was on a right handed guitar, but it puts my "smart" hand fretting the instrument and my "dumb" hand plucking the strings, which is the opposite of most guitarists. I have met others with the same issues I have, so it occurs to me that the handedness of Paul/Faul in photographs is not a "scientific" method of determining who is who. I know, for example, that on the cover of Abbey Road, Faul is smoking with his right hand. That really doesn't say anything, though, as I have just expressed. What could be done, i guess, is some evidence gathering from photos to document what hand JPM used for different things. Without this, though, it is not striking evidence.
What I immediately think of as a USEFUL experiment to perform regards the catalog of Beatles and Paul songs. What I have read so far is that one professor of linguistics analyzed Mccartney songs and came to the conclusion that he heard 3 Mccartneys on record. He could not determine that they were all the same singer. Then he "clammed-up". This seems like a *relatively* easy experiment to duplicate. The method i would like to see is to set up a control group of John Lennon songs from the early 60's and late 70's. If a forensic voice analyst can determine that these are the same person, then you would begin to looke at Paul songs from different periods. If 2-3 voice analysts came to the conclusion that there were different voices present, I can almost guarantee that you would get a show on television about the subject, and the money for research that would include!!!
I said that this would be relatively easy. I am not sure how to go about starting a project such as this, but that seems to be where connectivity on the internet would help out. I must say, though, that I am happy to be here and interested to read about any new developments as they come up!
I'm as open minded as the next person, I didn't know of this PID stuff until Sunday evening. I'm torn. I think some of what I read (majority of it being in this forum) is just too much. While Others seem to make me believe this is true. I believe that the real JPM is dead. Thanks to you I can believe that without sounding dumb.
But I've always watched the beatles (I'm only 19, so it's been mostly on the internet) and I hate to say I can't see a difference between early paul and the later. Is it possible to actually compare the two in their videos? I've only seen comparisons on the covers, and some images but never of the music videos or live footage.
I would like to be able to make out who's who. It's kind of hard for me at the moment, seeing as they look the same.
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Paul and Faul « Result #32 on Sept 16, 2009, 9:23am »
I'm as open minded as the next person, I didn't know of this PID stuff until Sunday evening. I'm torn. I think some of what I read (majority of it being in this forum) is just too much. While Others seem to make me believe this is true. I believe that the real JPM is dead. Thanks to you I can believe that without sounding dumb.
But I've always watched the beatles (I'm only 19, so it's been mostly on the internet) and I hate to say I can't see a difference between early paul and the later. Is it possible to actually compare the two in their videos? I've only seen comparisons on the covers, and some images but never of the music videos or live footage.
I would like to be able to make out who's who. It's kind of hard for me at the moment, seeing as they look the same.
Re: a few pics « Result #37 on Sept 12, 2009, 8:38am »
Will the real paul mccartney please say something about these photos? I am very worried. I have been your toptist fan for many years and I have always believed in you billy. (I, in no way would imply that billy is a fake as he is a living legend who has outlived all other living legends including elvis, james dean, and that blues guy)
Re: send love to Faul « Result #39 on Sept 12, 2009, 8:01am »
REASONING IF JPM WAS REALLY KILLED: IF SO.. Was Faul aware that he replaced a murdered man? If so, wouldn't this make him guilty of withholding the truth of murder? How can anyone say that a 'stand in' should be forgiven if he ...contributed nothing to beatles in the way of material and continued living a lie while getting filthy rich? If Macca is the true Macca then this reasoning doesn't matter.
Re: Paul & Faul. « Result #41 on Sept 12, 2009, 7:33am »
Paul on the left looks like Sylvestor Stallone/Mathew Broderick whereis Faul on the right looks like someone else. Does anyone have a dental comparison? This is really interesting.
Re: Man who killed John Lennon now heading CIA's c « Result #46 on Sept 3, 2009, 4:30pm »
Well I have to say this. According to the coroners report, Lennon was shot 4 times in the back. He was not shot in the front. Also saw the pic of the deceased. The jawbone is the real McCoy lying on the gurney.
Chapman testified he was behind Lennon and Lennon never saw his killer. The doorman was tending the door and was in front of John.
Therefore reason applies here. No way would the doorman run around John and then see Chapman and then shoot Lennon. Lennon would have turned around to see and wonder why the doorman walked away around him. This would mean Lennon would be facing his killers that evening.
So this has to be not true concerning the report. It simply does not jive with the actual coroners medical report. Therefore Chapman is the true killer of John Lennon and the body of the deceased before cremation is confirmed the real John Lennon and not his double. The jawbone matches. End of story.
Re: Can Anyone Verify This connection « Result #47 on Sept 3, 2009, 8:54am »
Hi
Interesting that these names always have some connection. As odd as it may sound.
Now you mentioned us being a nut case. Well lets put one thing into perspective here. I watched the video very carefully of the Beatles playing their last concert on the roof and listened carefully and watched the moves of this Paul McCartney.
This person in 1969 is NOT THE REAL PAUL McCARTNEY. Totally different damn voice octave range, and when this Paul sang with John again a total different voice octave range. I compared this to their previous performances when they sang together in 1964,65,66.
At the end of the song Get Back, you will hear this Pauls voice as stand alone and its totally different. Then you will see John Lennon speak and his voice does match to 1964,65,and 66.
There is no way a voice will change inside less than 3 years. Impossible.
The forehead of this Paul in 1969 is twice the size that real Paul back in 1966!!! There is no way the skull will grow or the hairline be completely different inside 3 years.
I also watched the demeanor of this guy, and the way he played that bass is different than the real Paul did. Once you develop a specific habit, it stays with you. A lot of it was missing on this alleged paul in 1969.
The probable factor that we today have a fake playing all over the place is a good 90%
All you need to do is investigate and make comparisons and you will see the obvious differences.
Re: Can Anyone Verify This connection « Result #48 on Sept 2, 2009, 11:05pm »
The guy's Name was Leopold Vail Epstein.
1.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Eastman Not related to the Eastman's in Eastman Kodiak film, and camera company. 2.) Conner when declaring facts here cite a source!
3.) Yeah Fab we're nutcases here. What color are your eye's today? The Cover of the Sergeant Peppers Album is just about The Beatles saying how uplifting the discovery of drugs was to Them so they made a burial scene, and the "Lonely Hearts Club" just seemed intellectual sounding and where they were going with the music, "Rock The House man"! Why don't you stay in Your Sane World out there. You aren't doing anything here of value.
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Re: Brian Wilson and Sgt. Pepper Reaction « Result #50 on Aug 31, 2009, 10:48am »
Well, here's what I think since I'm PIA: Whle working on The album Pet Sounds(which was going to be the best rock album of all time), Sgt. Pepper was released and once Brian heard it, he told his fellow bandmates in The Beach Boys, "The best album inthe world has already been made! This will just look like a poor copy," So he stopped work on Pet Sounds and then I guess he needed a break from music.
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