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« Result #1 Yesterday at 8:57pm »

I get that. But why no one else? There are a lot of people out there with access to Beatles music and if the reach of these shadow organizations is as great as a lot of people around here say it is, why aren't more people getting triggered? It seems to me that it would be impossible for any governmental or other shadow agency to be able to restrict access to Beatle music for all potential operatives. What I want to know is have there been other cases of people being triggered? Two out of millions is so statistically negligible that it really weakens the triggering argument.
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This one comes from their third LP "Lizard." The following song is about the Beatles. The Beatles are also part of the cover artwork for this album as well. It seems interesting to me that King Crimson decided to make a reference to the Beatles on their third album. (3 Beatles, third King Crimson LP...very strange.)

The names are:
Judas = Paul
Rufus = Ringo
Silas = George
Jonah = John


"Happy Family"
(Fripp/Sinfield)
Happy family, one hand clap, four went by and none come back.
Brother Judas, ash and sack, swallowed aphrodisiac.
Rufus, Silas, Jonah too sang, "We'll blow our own canoes,"
Poked a finger in the zoo, punctured all the ballyhoo

Whipped the world and beat the clock, wound up with their share of stock.
Silver Rolls from golden rock, shaken by a knock, knock, knock.
Happy family, wave that grin, what goes round must surely spin;
Cheesecake, mousetrap, Grip-Pipe-Thynne cried out, "We're not Rin Tin Tin."

Uncle Rufus grew his nose, threw away his circus clothes
Cousin Silas grew a beard, drew another flask of weird
Nasty Jonah grew a wife, Judas drew his pruning knife.
Happy family one hand clap, four went on but none came back

Happy family, pale applause, each to his revolving doors.
Silas searching, Rufus neat, Jonah caustic, Jude so sweet.
Let their sergeant mirror spin if we lose the barbers win;
Happy family one hand clap, four went on but none came back

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Happy Family

Happy family, one hand clap, four went by and none come back.
(The Beatles were tight, like brothers. One hand clapping doesn't make a sound. The dead don't make sounds. There were four Beatles but that time has passed. There is no going back.)

Brother Judas, ash and sack, swallowed aphrodisiac.
(Faul's admitting to using LSD.)

Rufus, Silas, Jonah too sang, "We'll blow our own canoes,"
(Ringo, George and John didn't want everyone to know about their LSD use.)

Poked a finger in the zoo, punctured all the ballyhoo
(Faul's remarks put an end to the fun that everyone (ie the London rock establishment) was having with LSD)

Whipped the world and beat the clock, wound up with their share of stock.
(The original line-up made the money and Faul ended up with a share of their stock.)

Silver Rolls from golden rock, shaken by a knock, knock, knock.
(Although the Beatles have material goods, all of that is an illusion that is shattered when the group is notified about the death of Paul, hence, "knock, knock, knock.")

Happy family, wave that grin, what goes round must surely spin;
(The Beatles have to act like everything is fine and normal. The rumours that go around have to be spun by PR people so the truth isn't revealed.)

Cheesecake, mousetrap, Grip-Pipe-Thynne cried out, "We're not Rin Tin Tin."
(The Beatles and Faul state that they are the Beatles.)

Uncle Rufus grew his nose, threw away his circus clothes
(Ringo was replaced for safety.)

Cousin Silas grew a beard, drew another flask of weird
(George wanted to be such a fringe character than no one would bother with him.)

Nasty Jonah grew a wife, Judas drew his pruning knife.
(John, who wasn't taking the cover-up well, gets a handler by the name of Yoko Ono. Faul breaks up with Paul's fiance Jane Asher.)

Happy family one hand clap, four went on but none came back
(Beatles were like family. Death. No going back to the original four.)

Happy family, pale applause, each to his revolving doors.
(After the death of Paul the positive reception of Sgt Pepper was lost on the Beatles because they were in mourning. The three wanted out.)

Silas searching, Rufus neat, Jonah caustic, Jude so sweet.
(George used his eastern religion kick to cover up his search for Paul's killers. Ringo stayed quiet--he didn't want any trouble coming to Maureen or his sons. John got angry and temperamental because he had to live a lie. Faul put on his happy public face to charm the public.)

Let their sergeant mirror spin if we lose the barbers win;
(The Sgt. Pepper drum clue and the new haircuts/mustaches that went along with the album. It seems to say that if people don't believe PID then the forces that did the make over on the Beatles to hide the replacement of Paul win.)

Happy family one hand clap, four went on but none came back
(Same meaning as before.)

It seems to me that there are a lot of clues about PID in this song that is supposed to be about the break-up of the Beatles. Then again, the Beatles broke up because PID.
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« Result #4 Yesterday at 7:49pm »

No, Im not missing the point, but whatever.... MANSON was strongly MK-ed/CIA asset, so was MDC (2 convenient scapegoats, isnt it?) and its not so hard to connect the dots on why "Beatles' " music had this effect on these guys...
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Here's a lyrical clue from King Crimson that I find to be a much better allusion to PID than "Life on Mars" by B/Fowie. This song is from 1969 and King Crimson is from the UK. Also, the PID theory came out in that radio interview in '69.

21st Century Schizoid Man

Cat's foot iron claw
Neuro-surgeons scream for more
At paranoia's poison door
Twenty first century schizoid man.

Blood rack barbed wire
Politicians' funeral pyre
Innocents raped with napalm fire
Twenty first century schizoid man.

Death seed blind man's greed
Poets' starving children bleed
Nothing he's got he really needs
Twenty first century schizoid man


Okay, let's break it down:

Cat's foot iron claw
(The metal at the accident that injured Paul. Either the car itself or something at the scene of the accident.)

Neuro-surgeons scream for more
(The doctors need help operating on Paul. Paul had head injuries and it's neuro-surgeons needing help.)

At paranoia's poison door
Twenty first century schizoid man.
(Because Paul's care was forced off the road and he didn't actually die in the accident itself, the paranoid Beatles needed to replace Paul. As the replacement has to become someone else they become a schizoid man.)

Blood rack barbed wire
(a fence that the car went through, part of the metal represented by the first line in the song that injured Paul.)

Politicians' funeral pyre
(It would be the end of the politicians if the secret of their involvement in the cover-up was revealed.)

Innocents raped with napalm fire
(Everyone (ie the public) gets burned by this giant fraud)

Twenty first century schizoid man.
(Faul)

Death seed blind man's greed
(The death of Paul and the successful cover-up have lead those who perpetrated the cover-up to feel invincible...and greedy.)

Poets' starving children bleed
(This is a reference to everyone hungry for a PID clue.)

Nothing he's got he really needs
Twenty first century schizoid man
(Faul may have a life of indulgence and luxury but he doesn't have truth or honour.)


The fact that it is 21st and not 20th Century is, to me, a reference that the Beatles were ahead of there time as so many commentators have said.

I just thought that this song actually has a lot to say about PID.
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« Result #6 Yesterday at 6:33pm »

Wow, I looked at the time of the original post where I stated it said "clue," and it wasn't late at night...I must have been having a really off day, either that or I was just too excited to take part in the forum. :P
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Yeah, sorry, my bad. I made that post late at night and was really tired. I've actually shown people that it spells "Code." I've also pointed out that the hole in the "O" has been fixed to look like the cardboard mustache included with the original Sgt. Pepper LP. The interesting thing--to me anyway--about this clue is that you have to do the mirror trick the opposite way that you do for the cover of Sgt. Pepper. Now is that a clue in and of itself?
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« Result #8 Yesterday at 6:22pm »

Khamira, you completely missed the point of the post. I am not talking about the Beatles/Featles. What I am getting at is the EFFECT of their MUSIC on certain segments of the population. If Manson was "told" to kill by the Beatles and so was MDC (apparently) how come no-one else has? There are a lot of unbalanced people out there and I just figured someone else cold be triggered by the music. If their music does trigger people, what are the main songs that trigger? I just used the Manson angle as a starting point.
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The point is that those whom u call BEATLES are actually FEATLES/FALSE BEATLES. Even I repeat myself, after 1966, BEATLES were never the same. They were replaced. All of them. Ringo probably for 2nd/3rd time. BEATLES became FEATLES. The boys from LIVERPOOL were no more... Their place was taken by imposters involved subsequently in all kind of troubles like this MANSON murder...
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Aug 29, 2010, 3:26am, mistermustard wrote:
what? Like the way the way iamaphoney's videos on Youtube showed the obvious (in retrospect) clue of using the same mirror trick with the Love album cover? Y'know, the way it spells out "Clue" and everything. Too bad it's like most of his clues...it ends up not meaning much than being a way to get you to watch the videos of him playing with suitcases...and hyping his own music.


Actually, the artwork mirrors the word "code", as in love/code.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Db55ruGGJo
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Okay, I found some other stuff already posted...but they are all fairly old. Anyone have any new thoughts?
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Munner:

It should be a sure thing that the Beatles were entirely aware of what they were doing with the backmasking. Aleister Crowley was a huge champion of backwards writing and speaking. He also appears on the Sgt Pepper cover multiple times. I find it to be more than a coincidence that the backmasked PID clues come after Sgt. Pepper even though the Beatles first started backmasking on "Rain."
So to answer your question, no there was never a rational explanation that I am aware of. That said Lennon always like to say (and this is a bit of a paraphrase) "Nothing ever happened by accident. We were always aware of what we were doing." Kind of interesting.
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In Vincent Bugliosi's book "Helter Skelter" about the Tate/LaBianca murders committed by the Manson Family, there is a theory stated that Manson was receiving messages from the White Album. It was stated that Manson interpreted the song "Piggies" to mean the wealthy, upper class. "Blackbird" was about the oppressed African/Americans that would take over after a huge race war. "Helter Skelter" was to be the race war. "Revolution 1" has the clue "If you talk about destruction/Don't you know that you can count me out...in." Manson apparently saw this as the Beatles' and John's wavering on the race war and then deciding to take part. "Revolution 9" was said to contain messages that it was time to start the war (ie "Rise, Rise"). "Healter Skelter" (it was misspelled) and "Rise" were both written in blood at the LaBianca murder scene. At the Spahn Ranch, were the Family lived was a door that had "Helter Skelter" and "1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 6, 7, All good children (go to heaven?)" written on it. Now, what is interesting about the last quote is that it does come from a Beatles lp, but one that wasn't yet released when it was photographed by the police on the August 16, 1969 raid at the ranch.
What interests me about this Manson/Beatles connections come down to two things. One: did the Beatles (any or all) and Manson know each other through Dennis Wilson? After all, Wilson hosted Manson and members of the Family to the tune of a rumored $100,000 in damages to property and other expenses. Two: if there is a strong Illuminati connection with the Beatles (I'm not saying there is or isn't) could the Beatles have actually been trying to trigger people into automatic actions? This is a technique that gets used by groups like the Illuminati, right?
It should also be said that Manson drew parallels to the Book of Revelations and the coming of the end times with the Beatles. He apparently saw the Beatles as the four horsemen of the apocalypse whose "breast plates of fire" were actually electric instruments.
Could it be that Manson was finding some of the PID clues and badly misinterpreting them?
Anyone want to weigh in on this?
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« Result #14 Yesterday at 8:21am »

Ever hear of marijuana use by the Beatles? It too is a psychedelic and was widely used by the Beatles during Help! Anyway, what difference does it make? The Beatles always used some for of intoxicating agent from alcohol and "prellies" in the early days on through to psychedelics and eventually cocaine (Paul/Faul) and heroin (John). But if I stay on the topic of acid rock, I'd have to say that the quintessential acid rock moment in the entire Beatles catalog has to be Tomorrow Never Knows. JMO.
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I have just joined, so please forgive me for repeating what I am sure has been said many times before. I had a friend who was a DJ at a local station. We would often join him late at night on his shift. After, we put the Beatles LPs on the turntable and spun them backwards. The messages there were very obvious, moaning "Paul is dead" and "Poor Paul",etc. Has there ever been a reasonable explanation for this? To me, it was proof that Paul was indeed dead, and I have believed that ever since. Did any of the other Beatles ever give a rational explanation, other than laughing it off??
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« Result #16 on Aug 31, 2010, 10:12am »

Fair enough. I tend to go with the idea that he was replaced for security reasons in public/semi-public appearances after '66. It would also have been simple enough for John to have been pushed off to the side with mega doses of LSD if he didn't like the situation. Really, that would have been an obvious extension of MK Ultra.
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LOLZ, it was always a mystery to me how MADONNA mastered the guitar so well...
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Im not talking in vain. My and others' evidence is here:
http://*banned link*?board=aloha&action=display&thread=2081&page=1
Even without going to this link, notice that his face changes after 1966 (when PAUL died) and is a far cry from what JOHN LENNON used to be.
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« Result #19 on Aug 30, 2010, 11:01pm »

I am going to have to assume that there aren't many actually musicians commenting on this because any guitarist can see that she plays two chords for most of the song (a G major barre chord and a C5 power chord). This is simple, simple stuff people. As a guitarist I also know that you can move around a heck of a lot more than she did at the Live Earth performance and still sound way, way better.
It is legit. (Oh, and yes, any flashy stuff was played by the other guitarist).
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« Result #20 on Aug 30, 2010, 10:47pm »

"Slowhand" is/was a totally IRONIC nickname. Just like calling a huge guy "Tiny."
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« Result #21 on Aug 30, 2010, 10:17pm »

Where is your evidence Lennon was "long gone...by the time of Imagine"? We must be careful of throwing out random theories because the PID theory is hard enough for people to believe and there is a great deal of proof for PID.
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what? Like the way the way iamaphoney's videos on Youtube showed the obvious (in retrospect) clue of using the same mirror trick with the Love album cover? Y'know, the way it spells out "Clue" and everything. Too bad it's like most of his clues...it ends up not meaning much than being a way to get you to watch the videos of him playing with suitcases...and hyping his own music.
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« Result #23 on Aug 29, 2010, 2:18am »

Someone at the top of the page listed the Bowie track "Life on Mars" as "Is there Life on Mars." Now, I don't really want to be "Mean Mr Mustard" here but if a detail like this can be blown it really undermines any further arguments to be made about obscure clues alluding to Bowie's connection with the PID idea. And the fact that no-one else seems to have caught that makes me wonder about the sleuthing going on around here.
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Well, download a copy of Audacity (it's free and legit), load "I am the Walrus" and run it backwards. This should be old news but if you say "Turn me on dead man" and reverse it it comes out sounding a lot like "number nine." I know because I've tried it. Backwards masking is actually fun and easy.
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I'm just going to through out the fact that Lennon said in an interview that "eggman" is a reference to Eric Burdon. This is because Burdon, apparently, loved to crack open eggs on the bodies of women he was having sex with.
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I just re-read my last post. The second paragraph should read:
I agree with the PID idea, but not all of the theories. Too many people had a vest interest...

Just a minor correction. ;)
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Why was he replaced? What was there to gain? If it was something as simple as Bowie sending out a doppelganger because he didn't want to tour, fine. But I repeat my above statement...Bowie was/is not as important socially/culturally/musically as the Beatles. Who benefits from this switch from Bowie to Fowie?
I agree with the PID idea, but not all of the theories because too many people had a vested interest in the continuation of the Beatles whether or nor Paul met his end accidentally or through more nefarious means. I don't see those same interests at stake in the Bowie situation.
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Sorry to disappoint u, but DAVID BOWIE is long gone. All u have to do is research carefully and keep ur mind open.
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« Result #29 on Aug 28, 2010, 5:44pm »

I believe that Bowie is still the real Bowie. It has been well documented that Bowie was mostly strung out on cocaine and anti-social during the time period speculated as his switch to Fowie. I've known people that have become strung out on hard drugs and they do turn into someone else. Their physical presence is greatly altered and their creativity almost always dries up. I think saying Bowie was replaced just sounds like a way to excuse a lot of bad material that he created/performed. Bowie didn't have the same far-reaching cultural impact that the Beatles did. Oh sure he may have been popular, even very popular. However, there wasn't the cross generational appeal to Bowie that the Beatles had. That is why the Beatles were infinitely more important culturally and socially.
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« Result #30 on Aug 26, 2010, 3:09pm »

Since you guys have studied Paul and Faul so much i thought that you might would enjoy this. It's a man who does amazing impressions of musicians, among others Faul, Ringo.3, George Harrison, John Lennon, Bee Gees, Jeff Lynne, David Bowie, Elton John, Bob Dylan, Queen, Ozzy Osbourne, Roy Orbison, Marc Boland, Elvis Presley, Elvis Castello, Tom Petty, Rolling Stones and Oasis. Even Brian Epstein, George Martin and Pete Best...

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At least it proves that it is not impossible to "be" another person, when this guy is able to do like twenty people perfectly


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There is no way a voice will change inside less than 3 years. Impossible.



Are you being serious? In puberty for human males alone, less than three years is ample time for a voice to change, and a voice continues to change as one grows older. It's a biological process. Opening one's mind to the idea that Paul McCartney might be dead and replaced with a double is one thing; completely throwing the laws of biology out the bloody window and making the case as a whole look stupid in the process is another.

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Hello Michelle1, (Our Bell),

To be Honest I was referring to "ARE3RA-TheRottenApple 2010" at YouTube.

The Song "Band on The Run" does direct my attention to a official Clue showing President Charlies De Gaulle on the floor with outstretched arms (like some one got away?) looking at a upside down Lad
in the seat behind a seated Faul (Tara). The floor rug of the Bus is blue maybe representing the English Channel. Is President De Gaulle the "County Judge who Held a Crudge". (I'm just saying.) If we carry on with this point we should go to the Real Paul thread. I can't bring the drawing over but its the first post of " Magical Mystery Tour Booklet Comics" (an Apple Product) thread in the Essential Section. Why would President De Gaulle be drawn in a unflattering pose in an Official Beatles Apple Product? No Character in the MMT Film is like that! What other Politician or Chief Law Enforcement Officer of a Country did they do that with?
THEY WHERE ARRESTED in Manila, and spent a night in Jail by President Marcos's orders over a misunderstanding. I believe John said they were scared when, and as it happened.

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Aug 17, 2010, 6:30am, romanruins wrote:
If you go to YouTube and enter "ARE3RA-TheRottenApple 2010" in the Search Box, and go 2:05 into Iamaphoney's Video I hear Faul saying " I was saying this to Paul. I am trying to help you, but I always feel as if I'm annoying you" to George. Does anyone hear that or not?

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If you go to YouTube and enter "ARE3RA-TheRottenApple 2010" in the Search Box, and go 2:05 into Iamaphoney's Video I hear Faul saying " I was saying this to Paul. I am trying to help you, but I always feel as if I'm annoying you" to George. Does anyone hear that or not?

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Hello Michelle1, (Our Bell),

To be Honest I was referring to "ARE3RA-TheRottenApple 2010" at YouTube.

The Song "Band on The Run" does direct my attention to a official Clue showing President Charlies De Gaulle on the floor with outstretched arms (like some one got away?) looking at a upside down Lad
in the seat behind a seated Faul (Tara). The floor rug of the Bus is blue maybe representing the English Channel. Is President De Gaulle the "County Judge who Held a Crudge". (I'm just saying.) If we carry on with this point we should go to the Real Paul thread. I can't bring the drawing over but its the first post of " Magical Mystery Tour Booklet Comics" (an Apple Product) thread in the Essential Section. Why would President De Gaulle be drawn in a unflattering pose in an Official Beatles Apple Product? No Character in the MMT Film is like that! What other Politician or Chief Law Enforcement Officer of a Country did they do that with?
THEY WHERE ARRESTED in Manila, and spent a night in Jail by President Marcos's orders over a misunderstanding. I believe John said they were scared when, and as it happened.

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« Result #36 on Aug 14, 2010, 4:55pm »

So the living is death and vice versa :-/ Ringos replacement has always been pretty obvius to me, seems like they just gave some guys a big nose.

I did write a storyline for how I'd like to have the story in the crime "fiction" I'm going to do. And it fits pretty well on what you guys are telling or confirms. My story is contemporary, and about a band obvious based on The Beatles and the people around them:

Ringo and Paul get's attacked by a religious movement in the U.S., which kills Ringo. The fake death of Tara Browne get’s arranged so he can replace Ringo. After this, Paul decides to move to Australia with Jane Asher to live on a sheep-farm. And they are both replaced; don’t know who to be Faul yet.

I can remember that I once read that the first Eric Clapton might was an adjunct for George sometimes, maybe because of the loss of the musical genius of Paul. Don’t know about John, maybe he just realized that it was a pretty good deal. So that’s how I think that I will tell the story.

Thanks a lot for the help, I knew about all the replacements already, but it was very nice to see the sequence! How about producer George Martin – He ain’t got a “quick reference”? Was he ever replaced? (Or was he really the man behind all the good music despite all the replacements…..)
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« Result #37 on Aug 12, 2010, 8:48pm »

I am hesitant to give out an official explanation here for a couple of reasons. First, this has turned out to be a very complicated story. We need to be careful not to rest on any assumptions. And with that in mind, I would like for everyone to do their own research and share what they find - not just taking for granted what has been told here.

But, I understand there is a need here to compile the vast amount of information here. I am working on an outline that will sum up what Sun King and I have found.

For now I will say:

-Ringo Starr was the first one replaced, in late 1964. The Ringo who came back after having his tonsils removed in December 1964 seems to be a double.

-Brian Epstein was replaced after suffering a back injury in August 1965. He died in September 1966.

-Paul McCartney made plans for his replacement and had a double who made appearances before the one we know as "Faul" eventually replaced him in autumn 1966.

-John Lennon was replaced around Sept/Oct. 1966, by musician Ralph Ellis. Ralph is most likely the one who was killed in 1980.

-George Harrison had a double who made many appearances through the years, but he was not fully replaced within the group as the others were.


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« Result #38 on Aug 12, 2010, 7:49pm »

I know that perhaps Im not sayin anything new to u, but here it goes: PAUL is dead (100%); LENNON - possibly alive; HARRISON - possibly alive too; RINGO - dead. Keep in my mind this is ny pov solely.
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« Result #39 on Aug 12, 2010, 3:42pm »

First of all I'd like to say that I admire and appreciate the enormous and great work that have been done, trying to understand what has happened. I have read the threads in here for a long time.

I have tried to write the true story of Beatles down, as if it was a plot for a novelle, which I’d like to do once. But when I read the threats in here, they always gets ambiguous at some point, at people comes up with all kind of stuff such as Macca being this female soldier Lady Madonna and Brian Epstein and Neil Aspinall and some people are saying that Paul died in helicopter, and some in a car-accident etc.

This site has opened my eyes to the fact that they all had doubles, but who’s dead and who just got substitutes? Isn’t there some kind of ”official” believe of this forum? Who got replaced first, and perhaps an idea of why?

If any of you guys would be so kindly to stress this to me, or if there is an official explanation already, may just drop me the link.

Anyway, if anybody is able to put this whole amazing investigation that has been done by you guys in some kind of bulleted list or whatever, I would be very grateful

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Aug 10, 2010, 7:52pm, michelle1 wrote:

Aug 9, 2010, 3:55pm, Sun King™ wrote:


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The problem is that "Crossover False Paul" carrer started with the Real Paul one.
A counterpart made up to protect the Genius.


sunking, which one is Pauline?


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Pauline? LOLZ, what a bad joke!
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That Last Three videos (one made in the Last two weeks) at Iamaphoney's site at YouTube are well worth viewing to most people looking at this site.

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LOLZ. If u believe this longfaced dude is the real PAUL, then theres nothing left to add. Keep it like that!


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You are right, Khamira, and please SEE neck thikness differences too!

The problem is that "Crossover False Paul" carrer started with the Real Paul one.
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LOLZ. If u believe this longfaced dude is the real PAUL, then theres nothing left to add. Keep it like that!


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The problem is that "Crossover False Paul" carrer started with the Real Paul one.
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LOLZ. If u believe this longfaced dude is the real PAUL, then theres nothing left to add. Keep it like that!
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Your opinions are well thought through Ruins!
My thinking based on different material is similar to yours. Corporal Paul survived.

I believe this picture published in 1969 is disclosure of Paul's injuries.

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That Last Three videos (one made in the Last two weeks) at Iamaphoney's site at YouTube are well worth viewing to most people looking at this site.

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Hello Michelle1,
I enjoy reading you posts, and info!

I don't have a lot to add to my position on this Thread. At least without using conjecture, and inference. I will add that I have come up with two points that back my position that the Corporal Paul survived, and recuperated from when the "rain exploded in a mighty Crash" in September of 1966.

1.) The Midget (Paul, Post Sports Car Crash) in the MMT film is a physical being at times pushing the bicycle in the sand! Not representing a Spirit!

2.) The Midget takes pictures through out the Film working the camera not something a spirit would do!

As an aside one of the clues that I felt supported the Paul Is Dead position are the words in Band on the Run "as we fell into the Sun". (thats a bad a$$ explosion I thought) No one survives falling into the Sun. Until I took another look at the context the lyrics of the song where creating, and that is a New situation, a different Day. A more relaxed time. "and the first one said to second one there, I hope your having FUN." The band was different. Paul, and Billy (Tara Browne) were working in Tandem. With Billy (Tara) doing the preforming.

The clues in MMT Movie suggest Paul Severely injured his lower Jaw, and maybe throat, and He probably didn't have the singing ability He had before, even after He recuperated. " Paperback Writers" don't preform they write, (and in this context direct) and is a indication of where Paul wanted to go (or wished for) even in the Spring of 1966.

Also Billy(Tara) and Paul were not Identical Twins who's physic's aged alike. A problem under the spotlight, and being one of the World's most recorded Persons (Hah). TPTB settled on Billy as Faul before Tara's fatal sports car accident, and before He was to receive his inheritance! 28 if Living in the Material World.(The Beatle License Plate LMW 28IF)

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Ure funny with ur "PAUL" after 1966 thing. Kinda hard to understand or accept that, ha?
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The point is LENNON was long gone (one way or another) by the time of IMAGINE. Instead we had FENNON. Go figure...
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