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Post by Mollymalone on Jun 8, 2005 3:29:20 GMT
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 8, 2005 11:18:22 GMT
Thanks for posting that link. We had some of those here before, but they stopped working. After listening I have these comments: "Need a Member" - No, not a valid reversal IMO. "Fish Is Dead" - Well, "Fish Is..." I don't hear 'dead'. Sung by a chorus rules out Reverse speech as such. "After all, Paul Is Dead" - Wow!, but i don't hear the rest. "We'll f you like Superman" - The first time I've heard this audio actually sound like it could say that, and the 'we'll' sounds more like "well". It's posted in a number of places here, and sounds different. "Please don't be long" - (I skipped this one.) "Ha ha, Paul Is Dead" - absolutely "Paul was the Walrus" - "Paul was 'sir old' " is as close as I can come to whatever it was. "I need some wheels" - ( I skipped) The classic ones like "Turn me on deadman" are well known.
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Post by plastic paul on Jun 8, 2005 23:33:06 GMT
Although i'd love to believe in backwards masking in songs, i feel that 90% of them are crap.
The ones where they are clearly gibberish or already backwards and by playing them forwards they say stuff i can understand, but most of the actual singing, i don't agree with.
I am the walrus "oom pah oom pah" etc, fine, the bit at the end of Sgt Pepper, ADITL, fine also, but in general singing, i'm less inclined to believe it.
What makes me think this is, there is a backwards masking site where they have many clips all in different circumstances (eg songs, political interviews, cartoons, NASA etc), yet unless you read what they're supposed to say, you can't decipher them at all.
So IMO unless you can hear words backwards straight away without altering tempo etc, then theyre prety much a no go.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 9, 2005 0:07:10 GMT
Just a technical point: "Backmasking" would be a recording technique, while "reverse speech" is considered to be an involuntary consequence of a speaker's (or singer's) forward speech formulation.
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Jun 9, 2005 11:38:45 GMT
But there is such thing as intentional reverse speech. One of my favorite examples (made by me): Say the phrase "dog Roy taken" into Windows Sound Recorder or Audacity or whatever, and reverse it, and post what you think you hear.
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Post by plastic paul on Jun 9, 2005 13:25:05 GMT
OK thanks for pointing that out, in that case, i backwards masking is genuine, but reverse speech just doesn't seem to me to have any substantial evidence.
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Post by TotalInformation on Jun 9, 2005 14:14:01 GMT
Unless you're talking about Lennon who could speak backwards fairly easily. Then it all becomes much the same thing.
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Jun 9, 2005 19:34:39 GMT
I can speak backwards too! Ded sih lop!!! slure neh yah yake eet!
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Jun 9, 2005 19:38:58 GMT
oot eevlis na nayihrb, ho.
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Jun 15, 2005 15:33:23 GMT
But there is such thing as intentional reverse speech. One of my favorite examples (made by me): Say the phrase "dog Roy taken" into Windows Sound Recorder or Audacity or whatever, and reverse it, and post what you think you hear. If anyone can't hear what you're supposed to hear, or has a really think accent, you should hear "Nick is your god" ;D Another example of this, is at the end of "Free as a bird" www.barcol-impressor.com/beatles/faab-end.wavwhen you listen to this, you will hear (backwards music)Turned out nice again. (gibberish)(backwards music) but if you press apple-left arrow (or ctrl-left arrow on a PC I think) it will probably start playing backwards, if it's playing in quicktime. Then you will hear (normal music)(gibberish)[my]name's John Lennon(normal music) This was probably the producers of the song trying to get out that John is capable of that kind of thing, so many backwards messages were probably intentional!
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