ilras
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Post by ilras on Aug 21, 2005 3:03:10 GMT
I know this could be posted in the SPLHCB's or in the Lyrics' treats (if necessary, pls move it). I've just read, on one of the most important italian magazines, an article about JPM and EA Poe. In synthesis it says that both have in their lives thing not completely explained and somthing to do with a "double". About EAP they say that there are many things that can allow one of these two ipothesis:1) that EAP substituted is brother who really had talent after having killed him and stolen all his works or 2) that his brother took his place at a certain point of their lives. www.panorama.it/cultura/scrittori/articolo/ix1-A020001032254;jsessionid=2eaa:4307e818:5b7eeeeadc5afd2Did the Beatles know that?
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Post by beatled on Aug 21, 2005 4:00:48 GMT
This is very interesting ilras, thanks for pointing it out. I need a translation, never studied Italian.. Here's Google's somewhat mangled version: tinyurl.com/9yygfAnd in case it goes away, here is what it said: You live and leaves to die. "true" the history of Edgar, Conan and Paul of Roberto Barbolini 11/8/2005
The author of "Gordon Pym" and the creator of probable Sherlock Holmes murders. The Beatle beheaded and replaced from a counterpart. Between truth and fiction, here the rivincita one of the "doubles quantity".
The indications are not never innocent. Which thing alloy Edgar Allan Poe, king of the literary terror and fervent alcoholic, to the vegetarian and buonista Paul McCartney, former the beautiful one of the Beatles? In the first place a pair of moustaches, that they appear and scompaiono from you respect faces to you in crucial circumstances, when to alter the own identity seems to transform in one issue of life or dead women. And it will be only a case that Poe is found between a crowd of personages celebrates, just to the center of before the row up, on the cover of album-capolavoro of the Fab Four, Sgt. Pepper' s Lonely Hearts the Band Club, appeared in the june of 1967? One junghiano would speak about "meaningful coincidences".
That they are not stopped here, being at least to singular parallelisms reveals from two books escapes to you in these days: Edgar Allan Poe. Dandy or assassin? of Marcello Staglieno (Boroli publisher) and the case of the double Beatle - dossier complete on the "dead women" of Paul McCartney di Glauco Cartocci (Robin the editions).
The history of the dead women of Paul in an incident of going back car to November 1966, in which it would be remained beheaded, is a mediatica legend that, circulated since the escape of Sgt. Pepper' s, has given origin in the course of the varying years numerous, included that one of a conspiracy of the Cia and the Mi6, the British intelligence agency. The objective would have been in truth Brian Epstein, manager of the group.
Once accortisi of the error, the 007 would have put all tacere with the complicity of the Beatles survivors. To think that James Bond in person, the secret agent with licence to kill, can have killed for mistake Paul McCartney is an ulterior step towards that confusion between fiction and truth that is to the base of every mythology POP. To case tormentone of the so-called Pid (acronym is not for "Paul is dead", Paul is died), scavalcando the beatlesmania of years Sixty, has drawn in these years new impulse from Internet and has ended in order to create in blog a species of virtual controstoria of the Fab four, fed from indications is pursued with filologica maniacalitĂ .
We do not forget that "fan" it wants to say fanatic: exactly with a good dose of fanatismo us it has been sbizzarriti to decrittare messages hidden in the witnesses of the songs, to turn upside down tapes records to you, to interpret marks them anomalous, like that cigarette that, on the cover of lp the Abbey Road, appear between the fingers of the right hand of Paul, famous mancino. And here it is returned to the moustaches: facts hasty to grow from the Beatles in the February of the ' 67, would be use to hide the person substitution.
According to the version to, the counterpart of Paul comes identified in English actor William Campbell; for the version b the clone it is instead a Canadian policeman, William Sheppard, known from Ringo Starr. The perfect likeness then is obtained through plastic makes them. A history of moustaches, cuts and made to you then to ricrescere, is to the base also of the vicissitude of mortal hatred them between Edgar Allan Poe and its William brother Henry, shaded in the book of Staglieno.
If Poe, than from young person did not carry the moustaches, had the eyes grays, as Charles Baudelaire never defines them "flashing with lightning to the violetto", one cultured shading also from Alexandre Dumas in a personal encounter? Who was truly the man with the moustaches who visited it to Paris in 1827? And that Edgar Pué that in 1832, to Pietroburgo, comes close "suspected of the theft of pictures and being to the decabristi", with which of the two somigliantissimi siblings must be identified? Stirring fiction and apparatuses it documents them belonged to the writer American Henry Furst, Staglieno suggests the existence of a "complex of the counterpart" between Edgar and William (like in the story of Poe William Wilson), sfociato in the fratricidio and the successive substitution of person.
In the scene to, the assassin would be Poe, plagiario of the brother in literary field and its avails again in the torbid relationship that tied both to cuginetta the Virginia, daughter of the aunt Clemm Maria; in the scene b instead it would have been William Henry, infuriated for the plagio and with the hope to inherit from the adoptive father of Edgar, John Allan, to kill the brother and to replace themselves to he. In both cases, we are in front of a "crime of the room sluice" that only the Cavalier Auguste Dupin di Poe, first the detective of the police literature, would be in a position to resolving.
As far as the great Sherlock Holmes, it has other gatte to peel. Its creator Arthur Conan Doyle is object of a posthumous surveying for murder. A group of investigators, between which figure the famous archeopatologo Simon Bray, in fact has asked the riesumazione for the emains of Bertram Fletcher Robinson, a journalist friend of Conan Doyle, died officially of tifo in 1907.
The hypothesis, to how much seems supported from a cinquantina of indications, is that Fletcher Robinson, to the age director of the Daily Express, has been poisoned with the laudano from the moglie on mandate of the writer. Motive of the crime, like in the case of the siblings Poe, the plagio literary: "This history must its idea of departure to the aid of the friend Fletcher Robinson" wrote Conan Doyle in famous to the first edition of the Mastiff one of the Baskerville, quarter and last novel of Sherlock Holmes.
According to the enquirers, this citation was not enough to Fletcher, that for its job of "ghost writer" s' it waited for very other acknowledgment. Unfortunately it committed the error to complain of with the moglie, that it had one tresca with Conan Doyle, marking therefore just the destiny.
Paul beheaded for mistake and replaced from a counterpart, murderous or assassinated Poe, Conan Doyle omicida: true or false? "cruente Controstorie", alarming truth parallels, inlays more and more of frequent our imaginary one. The founder of the Stones, Brian Jones, would have been drowned from its factotum Frank Thorogood; John Lennon, died assassinated, would in its turn have caused to the dead women of the first bassista of the Beatles, Stu Sutcliffe, hitting it with a soccer to the head during a argument (has always supported it the sister of Stu).
Regarding the innocuous legends that want Jim Morrison of the alive Doors and vegeto, Elvis Presley electrician in incognito and the unavailable Thomas literary Pynchon "alias" of Jerome D. Salinger, other genius in escape, we are in front of a quality jump, to an authentic leap in direction of the violence. In "deep red" of presumed crimes and the destinies it exchanges to you, there is but a positive feature that joins the cases Pid, Poe and Conan Doyle.
We could call the rivincita one of the sfigato one. Because if the Poe that we believed authentic is died killed and therefore it has been its disowned brother to write William Wilson and Gordon Pym; if the true author of the Mastiff one of the Baskerville is ignoto the Fletcher Robinson assassinated from Conan Doyle; if finally an English actor of B series or a whichever Canadian policeman can replace Paul McCartney in its better period, beh, if all this is true, then the authentic geniuses are they, the Getlteman Nobody. Those that the history has swept via and hour the virtual history risarciscono. Beautiful hope also for we is one.
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