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Post by PaulBearer on Nov 28, 2003 14:57:33 GMT
On November 27th 2003 an Italian journalist, in an anonymous way, sent Sun King this e-mail.
Guys, many compliments for your brave work. I have to confirm that in our environment the story has already been known for a long time. But the level of coverage is controlled by the same people as for the death of Diana. Therefore you have to forget the fact that someday someone will confess to something. However in this particular case you are fortunate: the photographic evidence speaks for itself.
Once an English journalist reported the following details of this story to me. The "core" is the same as that published on the "60IF" site but the details are slightly changed.
Brian and Ringo had a secret journey in America to sign a contact with a major American music company. The day that they returned home James Paul and Mal Evans went to the airport to collect them.
To divert suspicion, John was already in Spain and George in India.
When they arrived at their destination, Ringo and Mal decided to return straight home while Brian and James Paul decided "to celebrate" the event with two girls that were also there. They hired an airport rental. After a while there was a road accident where James Paul lost his top-wig. They telephoned Ringo telling him what had happened and that they would be with him in an hour or two. Ringo thought it was one of those jokes that James Paul and Brian usually pulled. Soon after the telephone call the police arrived; then James Paul and Brian decided to get a taxi home. One of two girls decided not to follow them because she was in shock and needed medication. In the taxi Brian was sitting in the front while James Paul was in the back with the girl. Evening was coming. After a while a car began to follow the taxi. A "pursuit" begun along the countryside . Then the car collided with the taxi and drove it off a cliff where it caught fire. The taxi driver and Brian died immediately while James Paul and the girl in the back seat jumped out just before the car hit the muddy waters below.
James Paul's condition was really bad but he tried to climb a hill to get help; however, after a while he had to rest and then he died.
When the car was found the body of James Paul was not inside. So it was thought to be a kidnapping. After few day the body of James Paul was found at the foot of a hill.
The rest (of the story) fits in perfectly with "60IF".
Two details: "oddly" Brian's double was already ready but James Paul's took a while to find.
As regards to this event, there is a military censorship at a very high level.
You have to know that this news will never come out in the newspapers while the Windsors still reign.
It's already a miracle that you have suceeded in publishing "60IF" at all and that it has remained on the Net as long as it has.
You have all my moral support.
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Post by PaulBearer on Nov 28, 2003 15:01:46 GMT
If this is true, then it sounds like that EMI set the whole thing up for revenge, particularly with Frian already in the wings. I do not think they had planned to kill Paul however. So, they covered up by making it look like an anti-semetic attack/sacrifice (or it could be real if EMI are linked to the illuminati) and, after the initial idea of blaming The Rolling Stones fell apart, then they blamed the KKK. This means George, John, and Ringo were sincere in thinking it was the KKK. What was written in 60IF was believed to be the truth by them. But they were duped by EMI.
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Post by JoJo on Nov 28, 2003 15:40:16 GMT
Pretty amazing stuff there Paul Bearer! This would make the song "Death Cab For Cutie" near the end of MMT more relevant don't you think? Remember it was Faul if I remember correctly who asked the Bonzo Dog band to be in the film. If perhaps the others were purposely mislead, Faul would most likely not be suffering under the same misconceptions, after all, "cops" always confide in each other... Refresh your memory if you like: web.newsguy.com/junkpile/deathcab.html
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Post by yellowmatter on Nov 28, 2003 15:49:04 GMT
Thanks for translating this PaulBearer
- Interesting stuff.....
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Post by Imgonnaopenmymind on Nov 28, 2003 16:36:12 GMT
Yes, yes, yes, this is the Holy Grail of 60IF! Woooo! Let's celebrate!
Openmind
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Post by innspector on Nov 28, 2003 17:01:18 GMT
WWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a whole, it's pure gold.
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Post by Winston on Nov 28, 2003 17:36:38 GMT
Paul Bearer & Sun King,
I am stunned by this corraborating information from an Italian journalist. I have not made a post here in months but check-in from time to time reading the 10 most recent posts. However, this information deserves a post.
I think I'm a fairly keen judge of people and I don't believe either Sun King or you would make this up.
I am intrigued by this...to say the least.
Would like to see a post from Sun King regarding the legitimacy of the character of this Italian journalist. Are we being put-on?
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Post by Chris on Nov 28, 2003 18:17:13 GMT
1st, why did Paul wear a top wig I had no idea. I've never heard of that A wig to make his hair look fuller If this is the true story, it's so sad. To think that Paul died alone of exposure Poor baby... Brian & the cab driver died immediately. Poor Brian. I don't think that any of them deserved what happened. It seems that it was ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. The Beatles' franchise was going to leave England. I guess the royals couldn't have THAT !!!! A very, very sad... Chris
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Post by pennylane on Nov 28, 2003 19:26:24 GMT
wow this new information is very interesting..
i know this may sound like a stupid question but where is this suppose to have taken place.. the reason i ask is that if it happened in england their is a problem with the story unless its just an error in the translation.. a taxi in britain is a black hackney cab. they only have one seat up front and up to 5 in the back. i know this because my father was a taxi driver for many years and my brother is one now.. the technology of the taxi's have changed over the years but the design has basically stayed the same.. so how did brian sit in the front?
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Post by eyesbleed on Nov 28, 2003 19:36:48 GMT
Ya, it's always about the money. As soon as The Beatles work became as big as it did from 64 on; the purity of their art was doomed. Once there's THAT much money involved, yer not gonna be able to just wonder off into the countryside & be a happy, working artist & choose to avoid the commercial madness Their lives were no longer their own at that point.
I remember something posted a few months ago by SK (I think)saying that there was one part of 60If that may not be accurate.... so maybe this is what he was referring to. (?)
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Post by Chris on Nov 28, 2003 19:53:51 GMT
:oSpanky - thanks for the info. I'm sure that S.K will look into it. Eyesbleed, I think this might be what he was referring to. All I can say is whew. What a nightmarish scenario. A car chase that resulted in the cab going over a cliff & bursting into flames. Since it was a cab, shouldn't that have been covered by the media That a cab had been in such a dreadful accident Questions, questions - always questions. Again, all I can think of is poor Paul & Brian .... Love to all... Chris
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Post by onlooker on Nov 28, 2003 20:56:30 GMT
wow this new information is very interesting.. i know this may sound like a stupid question but where is this suppose to have taken place.. the reason i ask is that if it happened in england their is a problem with the story unless its just an error in the translation.. a taxi in britain is a black hackney cab. they only have one seat up front and up to 5 in the back. i know this because my father was a taxi driver for many years and my brother is one now.. the technology of the taxi's have changed over the years but the design has basically stayed the same.. so how did brian sit in the front? Well, it could be a case of them using a "mini-cab". Instead of hopping into a typical London taxi, the type that are generally queued up at a stand, I've many times taken a private company mini-cab - which is usually just a regular car (Ford or Vauxhall) that one can call (that could be what the policman called for them). I take have taken them many times over the course of time, and more than once have had the occasion to sit in the front. Could be.
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Post by Darkhorse on Nov 28, 2003 22:29:38 GMT
Two small things that always bothered me about 60IF.
One, was how it described how James Paul died. The kidnapping and the IBS thing. Didn't 'quite' fit eventhough I accepted the overall story.
Second, was the theory that Yoko was involved in John's death. I accept that she was a spy but killing her own husband I have a problem with believing.
This email is very interesting and I concur with eyesbleed that this may be the detail that Sun King was talking about awhile back that was different in 60IF.
One thing is that this story doesn't describe what happened to the girl. She must have escaped and she may be the only one confirming this story. If she died, then there must have been a leak in the intelligence agency somewhere along the line to get this information out.
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Post by PaulBearer on Nov 29, 2003 1:14:55 GMT
I don't think this story exactly fits with 60IF though. What about the van? What about the MIB? What about the testimony of the girl who supposedly ran to the police station? What about the other "girl" who was supposed to be a transvestite priestess? What about the fact that "Jude" was found on the side of the car?
I can only think there was a coverup afterwards but maybe Brian really was seen as a sacrifice by the illuminati.
What about the first accident? We don't know anything about that. Was that "their" first attempt to get them or was it a result of being over-intoxicated from their celebrations?
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Post by Darkhorse on Nov 29, 2003 2:13:50 GMT
What about Stupid Bloody Tuesday? If this other story is true then James Paul was laying on the hill for 9 days. That's quite a long time to take to find someone. Plus, how did they find the car without finding Paul? His body couldn't have been far from the car.
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Post by swvlhed on Nov 29, 2003 2:39:53 GMT
Beware of smokescreens, my friends. Some things, overtly intended to clear things up, only serve to muddy the waters.
There is some truth in what is written, but it is not gospel truth. For that, you must ask a simple question:
Why would someone seek to cover up a murder?
Tell one or two, it's a secret, three and then 'tis the multitude.
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Post by PaulBearer on Nov 29, 2003 7:59:00 GMT
A smokescreen? Possibly, and possibly the journalist himself was misinformed - the story circulating may have been a hybrid of truths, half-truths, and lies.
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Post by Fwings on Nov 29, 2003 8:17:00 GMT
Interesting stuff, if this in fact a real journalist who's speaking what they believe to be the truth.
About the van... this e-mail says a car was chasing them, but perhaps it was a van instead, or maybe the van was involved in the first accident.
Also, it doesn't say that the hill Paul died on was near the cliff. A bloody Paul could have traveled far enough away from the accident scene as to not be found, only to collapse from exhaustion and exposure.
But what of the girl who told the story to the police? The first one in this version leaves before the actual crime takes place, and it doesn't say what happened to the second one. She would either travel with Paul and be found dead near him, or she would stay at the accident scene. If they found her alive, they would know it wasn't a kidnapping. So if she was dead, then who informed everyone on what happened?
I'm not sure what to believe. Parts of it correspond to 60IF, but others muddy the waters a bit. It does fit in with "Death Cab For Cutie" perfectly well, don't you think?
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Post by MrMustard on Nov 29, 2003 9:26:35 GMT
I still feel it's VERY useful information! It's definitely something! Poor Paul, to die so horribly and hardly anyone know about it. The poor guy wasn't even properly mourned!
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Post by Perplexed on Nov 29, 2003 11:33:59 GMT
But then, who lived from the wreck to contact anyone? Who could relate the account of what happened? Who would have known about the sinister other car forcing them off the road?
Who set JP's legs afire if that is true? Why not take and dispose of him? Why leave him out in the field to be found?
Why would the crown create a problem for itself? The Beatles were a prize asset INTACT. To mess with the formula they would shoot themselves in the foot.
JMO, but The Beatles had an unseen, unamed enemy. That is who did this. The British authorities wouldn't create a situation where they had to creat e double and go thru 40 years of machinations to protect the asset unless their hand had been forced. JP got killed. They had to do all this. Well, they felt they had to. The weird events and albums (that we love)starting in fall '66 were actions of compensation. They were compensating for an attack, and the loss of an asset. Someone made war on the Beatles. Their managers and defenders, British parties all (I think) took a major hit in a sneak attack, so to speak. The cover-up and all the rest is a defensive military reaction to a covert affront inflicted against EMI, Britain, the Beatles, the West, capitalism, the Crown, etc.
JMO, folks.
The sender of the email probably meant well. But, everytime we mop the kitchen, we get stuck in a different corner. But, then again, the kitchen really needs mopping, so we read it all. Perhaps I need to reread it. A point or 3 escapes me.
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Post by Perplexed on Nov 29, 2003 12:05:27 GMT
So did the mystery chick in the back seat just forsake JP and go for help and never return? She would have known kinda where he was-----she would have pointed to where the car went over some embankment into a, lake???
So, if this was sounthern England is it hilly like that? (Ive not been yet) If it was Umbria, or northern England, the lake district, isn't the water clear, blue and lovely like northen Michigan?
Did the car wait to explode in flames till just after JP and the girl did a Burt Reynolds quick escape stunt out of the careening automobile? Did the girl die in the car? did she get out of the car and then fall in the lake? Was the lake DIRECTLY below the edge of the road, or was it down an incline?I could see someone getting terribly hurt or killed trying to leap form a rapidly rolling, or falling car. This is plausible. BUt the overall aftermath seems shakey.
And why would it be Ringo and Brian?Why not John or Paul since they were the core? And what about the high powered American recording company that they had just been to see, and presumably sign with? Did they just get a Dear John letter form EMI saying, "Forget it. We're stayinf put for now. Don't want your money. Don't want to live in L.A.. Tear up our contract. Bye-bye." I don't know. No disparity to the man who sent the e-mail--it seems to be the story he was given. So where are things now........soory don't mean to be negative but the doldrums have fallen on me. Its getting harder to process these things for me...........
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Post by kungfuinstructor on Nov 29, 2003 18:25:20 GMT
Stay on target, everyone. The Italian journalist's story is the result of misinformation and half-truths spun by the washing machine, in my opinion.
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Post by pennylane on Nov 29, 2003 18:52:30 GMT
Well, it could be a case of them using a "mini-cab". Instead of hopping into a typical London taxi, the type that are generally queued up at a stand, I've many times taken a private company mini-cab - which is usually just a regular car (Ford or Vauxhall) that one can call (that could be what the policman called for them). I take have taken them many times over the course of time, and more than once have had the occasion to sit in the front. Could be. thats a good point except that mini cabs were not used in britain until the early 70s the black taxi's were pretty much the only way to go until the 70's. thats when the first taxi driver was murdered and people where terrified to take them anymore, hence door to door mini cabs became popular
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Post by Quarryman on Nov 29, 2003 19:11:44 GMT
This conglomeration of stories is interesting, but there is a problem regarding Terry Draper. Draper was not born until around 1952, meaning he would have been 14 or 15 when "discovered" and brought in to replace Paul.
The Klaatu song "Sub Rosa Subway", which is referenced as an audio clue on the Uberkinder site is not sung by Terry Draper, but by Klaatu's bassist John Woloschuk, who wrote most of the material on their first two albums.
According to Woloschuk, who also produced Rush's "Fly By Night" album, he actually met Paul McCartney, who ribbed him about "stealing the Beatles style."
Woloschuk was born a year or two earlier than Draper.
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Post by unrepentant on Nov 29, 2003 22:31:09 GMT
where I S u b e r k i n d e r, anyway?
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