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Post by SunKing on Mar 15, 2004 0:06:22 GMT
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band must be nothing less than the most important and REVEALING compact disc release there can ever be.SGT. PEPPER CD BOOKLETAttention: 5Mb of download but ... it's REALLY worth it...
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Post by innspector on Mar 15, 2004 22:20:18 GMT
I´m sure that everything is in that album. Remember the thread about A Day in the Life (song which, by the way has been underestimated)?
You said "Stg. Pepper = a try. If people didn't notice it then....we can go..... "
So everything that happened is told there. For example, in this cd booklet I noticed the height trick in one of the b/w photos of the shooting session. Someone noticed the "When I'm 64" thing, being Faul #64 in the character index, etc.
More is there hiding, waiting to be found.
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Post by SunKing on Mar 15, 2004 22:26:11 GMT
I´m sure that everything is in that album. Remember the thread about A Day in the Life (song which, by the way has been underestimated)? You said "Stg. Pepper = a try. If people didn't notice it then....we can go..... " So everything that happened is told there. For example, in this cd booklet I noticed the height trick in one of the b/w photos of the shooting session. Someone noticed the "When I'm 64" thing, being Faul #64 in the character index, etc. More is there hiding, waiting to be found. "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band must be nothing less than the most important and REVEALING compact disc release there can ever be" innspector that sentence is SURELY referring to those two photos about Faul: Never released before!
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Post by innspector on Mar 15, 2004 22:34:10 GMT
Yes, indeed. And much much more. The character index, where everything is lined out, its very intriguing, my feeling is that they´re trying to "put it in front of you"
I didn´t knew that those photos were never released before. The first has been used by Uberkinder for shocking everybody with the head shape and size. The second, I don't know if you´re drawing our attention to something in particular, but yes, his expression (not to mention head shape, size, etc) is NOTHING as James Paul.
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Post by innspector on Mar 15, 2004 22:38:08 GMT
The very end of the album typifies the advanced studio trickery (ha!! YOU BET!!) applied throughout Sgt. Pepper
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Post by SunKing on Mar 15, 2004 22:51:23 GMT
Yes, indeed. And much much more. The character index, where everything is lined out, its very intriguing, my feeling is that they´re trying to "put it in front of you" Perfect! See the numbers on the pages too.... Thank you for the occasion innspectorI have to repeat that....Uberkinder made a good job with SPREADING news about 60IF but..... ALL THE ORIGINAL ANIMATIONS WERE FROM SUN KING AND ABSOLUTELY NOT VICE-VERSA. That because people STILL think that there was the Uberkinder site first and then 60IF. THIS IS NOT TRUE. All the "recent" mess has started from that. EVERYTHING STARTED EXCLUSIVELY FROM 60IF. And absolutely not vice-versa.
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Post by SunKing on Mar 15, 2004 22:54:47 GMT
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Post by innspector on Mar 15, 2004 22:57:58 GMT
Perfect! See the numbers on the pages too.... Thank you for the occasion innspectorI have to repeat that....Uberkinder made a good job about SPREADING news about 60IF but..... ALL THE ORIGINAL ANIMATIONS WERE FROM SUN KING AND ABSOLUTELY NOT VICE-VERSA. That because people STILL know that there was Uberkinder site before and then 60IF. THIS IS NOT TRUE. All the "recently" mess has started from that. ALL THAT STARTED EXCLUSIVELY FROM 60IF. And absolutely not vice-versa. Yes indeed. You have done an outstanding work. Curiously I, as many others as I realise, saw first Uberkinder´s site, and from ther I went to 60IF. "Nobody knows who is working for"
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Post by innspector on Mar 15, 2004 23:06:56 GMT
Speaking about those two never released photos, George is pointing at William, like "take a good look to him, are you blind? ", in both of them, and in other photos in that booklet. Now, about the page numbers, are you talking about tha booklet pages? or the character index in page 6? Because I didn´t notice anything in the booklet page numbers (seems like I need a more powerful magnifying glass ;D)
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Post by innspector on Mar 15, 2004 23:10:09 GMT
Are you pointing to this: All lyrics copyrighted 1967 for the world by Northern Songs Ltd. Interesting also that no Lennon/Mc.Cartney is displayed in the songs, at least inside the booklet. Only in A Day in The Life is displayed with the credit John Lennon and Paul Mc.Cartney. hmmm......
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Post by innspector on Mar 15, 2004 23:23:53 GMT
More observations:
What are the cut-outs for? Why are they numbered?
And, in the "Stand Up" cut out, the letters "Sgt. Peppers Band" are actually full of photographs
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Post by SunKing on Mar 16, 2004 0:04:19 GMT
Interesting also that no Lennon/Mc.Cartney is displayed in the songs, at least inside the booklet. Only in A Day in The Life is displayed with the credit John Lennon and Paul Mc.Cartney. hmmm...... Bingo.....
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Post by SunKing on Mar 16, 2004 0:07:06 GMT
Speaking about those two never released photos, George is pointing at William, like "take a good look to him, are you blind? ", in both of them, and in other photos in that booklet. I have another 45 rpm cover where George does the same thing with Bill. About the booklet pages. They stop at number 28 28...hhmmmhmmm LMW 28IF -the famous "Abbey Road" plate- ...and
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Post by innspector on Mar 16, 2004 0:34:43 GMT
That´s it. I DO NEEED a more powerful glass!!!! ;D I´m not full concentrated on this, sorry.
How I missed the 28!!!! Shame on me. Putting two more photos, everything in the booklet was designed to it could fit in 28 PAGES!!!!
Now THAT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE
I KNEW ABOUT 28!!!! THAT IS THE LUCKY NUMBER OF THIS HOLE CASE!!!
IMO, just a hunch, 28 is the date of Paul´s death., or his body being found(LMW28IF- Lies Mc.Cartney Walrus 28 Is Found). September 11 is the date of his dissapearance. I conclude on that relating the Volkswagen with 28 and with the 60IF story, in which the car is in the scene. Just thinking loud. Nevermind.
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Post by LUCY on Mar 16, 2004 1:34:43 GMT
ok, let's really look at this negative. we have the side of a white car approaching a sillouette of a small , spiked tree hill (autum?) most likely anytime between dusk and dawn.......and what is the object before the car? Another vehicle? a sign in the road? the top of the frame looks fuzzy, and not a clean line one would expect from a negative or contact sheet. It appears to have been a cut and pasted (or markered) over that part of the sprockets. as for the lettering, I am unfamiliar with all films in that era, but to me, it suggests the words "car safety" rather than kodak or fugi.
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Post by LUCY on Mar 16, 2004 2:05:59 GMT
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Post by MMCDHoward on Mar 16, 2004 2:21:28 GMT
well actually the rear end is rounded...so, if you think about it...
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Post by Sdxo lv Ghdg on Mar 16, 2004 5:36:31 GMT
I see in an above post's link that George's "L" is pointing at Paul's missing "o".
As for the CD booklet art, pages 10 & 11, all the Beatles are together, Paul's mustache part's into a prymid- expressions are happy
pages 12 & 13, Paul has his back facing the camera -expressions are stoic (this photo is mirrored to show "love" being nearly spelled out with their hands)
pages 14 & 15, Pauls is turning aroung to his left; or to his right if the mirror image is inteaded to deliver the message - expressions are skeptical
pages 16 & 17, Paul is facing forward, still not making the "o" to complete the word "love", the ornate belt hanging from the button of paul's jacket exibits an "O" like shape at about the level of Ringo's "e"; the only song and lyrics on these two pages are 'fixing a hole'; Paul's shoulder pads are different!; - expressions are resolved (also, the background changes from yellow to red here)
In contrast to the other beatles, Paul is stiff and at attention in all the photo's.
p18-23 John continues with the "v" (upsidedown pyramid); Differnt blue jacket? Bottom edge of Paul's jacket could be different
p24-25 a ring can be seen on Ringo's right (or left) pinky that hasn't been visible before, and he's wearing a tie.
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 16, 2004 7:17:50 GMT
What a harvest, folks. I'm amazed.
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Post by SunKing on Mar 16, 2004 10:09:37 GMT
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Post by SunKing on Mar 16, 2004 10:44:37 GMT
Ringo said about "Sgt. Pepper": ...With all this experimentation going on, Ringo was left sitting on the sidelines: “The strongest recollection that I have of the sessions,” he said, “was that I learnt to play chess on it... For me, it wasn't our best album. It might have been the peak for everyone else, but, for me, it was a bit like being a session musician because we were trying to get a concept thing. Sgt. Pepper was like a show; it wasn't just an album. It was like a stage-show. And the original concept was that it was gonna be a stage-show, you know. We start with the clapping and things, and people shouting and then I come on. We were gonna do it like in a theatre. We'd do it in the studio and simulate it, but we didn't in the end. We did it for the first couple of tracks and then it faded into an album. But it still made it as a whole concept. It was suddenly like the audience had left, you know. It was as if we did a few tracks and suddenly there was a fire and everybody ran out of the building, but we carried on playing. We played the greatest, but everyone missed it.” www.beatles-discography.com/1966.html
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Post by LUCY on Mar 16, 2004 12:17:43 GMT
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Post by LUCY on Mar 16, 2004 12:24:30 GMT
I've never really put all the lyrics to this song together or read them before all in one place:
Within You Without You (Harrison) We were talking-about the space between us all And the people-who hide themselves behind a wall of illusion Never glimpse the truth-then it's far too late-when they pass away. We were talking-about the love we all could share-when we find it To try our best to hold it there-with our love With our love-we could save the world-if they only knew. Try to realise it's all within yourself No-one else can make you change And to see you're really only very small, And life flows within you and without you. We were talking-about the love that's gone so cold and the people, Who gain the world and lose their soul- They don't know-they can't see-are you one of them? When you've seen beyond yourself-then you may find, peace of mind, Is waiting there- And the time will come when you see we're all one, and life flows on within you and without you.
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Post by SunKing on Mar 16, 2004 14:35:59 GMT
from "The Beatles: Off the Record" by Keith Badman:
Mal Evans: "The first song I ever wrote that got published was 'Sgt. Pepper'. At the time, I was staying with Paul as his housekeeper. His previous housekeepers (the Kellys) had left for some reason."
...and...
Mal Evans: "I stayed with him (Faul) for four months and he had a music room at the top of his house with his multi-coloured piano and we were up there a lot of the time. We wrote 'Sgt Pepper' and also another song on the album, 'Fixing A Hole'. When the album came out, I remember it very clealry, we were driving somewhere late at night. There was Paul, Neil Aspinall and myself and the driver in the car, and Paul turned round to me and said, 'Look Mal, do you mind if we don't put your name on the songs? You'll get your royalties and all that, because Lennon and McCartney are the biggest things in our lives. We are really a hot item and we don't wnat to make it Lennon-McCartney-Evans. So, would you mind? I didn't mind, because I was so in love with the group that it didn't matter to me. I knew myself what had happened."
Credits to Wings
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Post by innspector on Mar 16, 2004 15:12:31 GMT
Checked my own cd booklet and found a couple of interesting things:
1. My booklet doesn´t have the cut-outs 2. The credits at the end of the lyrics doesn´t say "for the world" 3. John Lennon and Paul Mc.Cartney credit appears not only in A Day in The Life, but also in Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite
Now, I observed also this:
But the line-up of side one, as first conceived, was different from how it finally evolved, and was as follows:
Sgt. Pepper With a Little Help Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite Fixing a Hole LSD Getting Better She´s Leaving Home
Think of this particular order and relate it to the events that we know...... was this intended to "tell us a story"?Why in this cd version they are explaining this......
Also I´m very intrigued for the credits John Lennon and Paul Mc.Cartney (not even Lennon/Mc.Cartney) on A Day in the Life and Mr.Kite, why? what are they pointing at? Now comes what I tried to point in the A Day in The Life thread: IMO, BOTH SONGS are mainly pointing to William. In ADITL, it´s possible that John used the "talking of two things at the same time" lyric style, as in The Fool on the Hill", where he talks about Paul and William. "A lucky man who made the grade"(William changed his life, and literally his face was upgraded), "I saw a film today" (locating the events in the path of time, circa the end of 1966) "He blew his mind out in a car" "Nobody was sure if he was from the house of FAUL" (He´s telling how William "died", dissapeared from his previous life). Well, this has to be studied more thourouhgly. But think about the title: A DAY IN THE LIFE, A DAY, A DATE, OR A PERIOD OF TIME
I sense that THE WHOLE ALBUM, Sgt.Pepper, is about William, how he entered the band, fixed a hole because Paul "left" and how they managed to carry on with eht group, but with an internal conflict because of the whole situation, the way Paul dissapeared, and worse, the way it was kept secret.
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