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Post by SunKing on Jun 20, 2004 17:23:08 GMT
Note: - that "Mistery Tour" is NOT "Magical Mystery Tour" song - on the back cover there is the title "Samarkhand" "Mystery Tour" are the only words spoken during that piece. It seems like a "demo". The style is an "Helter Skelter" like. A piece made before/during September 1966 and left by the Bealtes in RCA....
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Post by TotalInformation on Jun 20, 2004 20:51:04 GMT
you should try to get that audio up, SK.
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Post by SunKing on Jun 20, 2004 20:56:09 GMT
you should try to get that audio up, SK. Yes...just the next step....
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Post by billyevil on Jun 20, 2004 23:36:56 GMT
Very much worth hearing.
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Post by unrepentant on Jun 25, 2004 8:00:01 GMT
wow, that would be one of the biggest beatles auction items ever- a demo acetate of new songs for RCA, songs now known as SGT. PEPPER and MMT tracks but which were actually done summer '66.
but that record label plainly says 1971...there were many bands around that time doing hard-edged material with a late 60's sound....i'd like to know why you're so sure this track has a late 66 origin.
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Post by SunKing on Jun 25, 2004 8:50:24 GMT
wow, that would be one of the biggest beatles auction items ever- a demo acetate of new songs for RCA, songs now known as SGT. PEPPER and MMT tracks but which were actually done summer '66. but that record label plainly says 1971...there were many bands around that time doing hard-edged material with a late 60's sound....i'd like to know why you're so sure this track has a late 66 origin. Very good question unrepentant! (as always..) Well it's all about the rights and the fact this piece sounds like a demo not like a complete song. RCA had to acquire the rights of that piece to publish it. RCA could used another piece for the same purpose... Why the Beatels did that on September 1966? It was the only period when they were without any contract.... I am not a Beatle expert about all the bootlegs they have produced but......did you know a song called "Samarkhand" signed by "Lennon/McCartney" before? If yes, please tell me where you have read those news.
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Post by The Taxman on Jul 24, 2004 18:56:25 GMT
None of this surprises me, inasmuch as the fellows had had a huge audience in Hamburg as practically everyone knows and Elvis had recorded a song called Rockin' Little Angel in England and distributed it there under an assumed name...gotta get that name somehow...I've heard the song and it is very much Elvis (oh, yeah, as "Ray Smith") . Then there was also Ral Donner...if anyone knows anything about that...? I do believe that acetate is worth a cpl wheelbarrows full of pounds sterling!
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Post by unrepentant on Jul 26, 2004 23:06:59 GMT
no, i don't recall ever seeing a track by that name attributed to lennon/McCartney...
BUT...
i read a little on "samarkhand" and it so happens it was the site of an interesting caper....one involving a dead man [tamerlane] whose body was experimented with for two years to see whether he was really sick during life as he was rumored to be.
coincidence? who knows.
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Post by BillyJones on Jul 27, 2004 18:50:21 GMT
unrepentant - that IS weird Chris
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Post by Jilli on Jul 27, 2004 20:11:44 GMT
Sun King good job. Is that record in english? Pretty please what are the words to that song "Samarkhand"? I want an idea what that song is about even if you cant make out all the words.
I have never heard of that Samarkhand before and was shocked when I did a search on the internet and stuff came up about it. What my search came up as "The Jews of Samakhand."
Which everyone probably knows about and Im just finding out about now. hahahahha
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Post by BillyJones on Jul 27, 2004 20:31:07 GMT
Not everyone. ABBEY & I haven't heard of it. Now we have to research it... Chris
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Post by BeatlePaul on Aug 18, 2004 13:25:40 GMT
no, i don't recall ever seeing a track by that name attributed to lennon/McCartney... BUT... i read a little on "samarkhand" and it so happens it was the site of an interesting caper....one involving a dead man [tamerlane] whose body was experimented with for two years to see whether he was really sick during life as he was rumored to be. coincidence? who knows. Fantastic! .... another clue for we all ...
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Post by TotalInformation on Sept 5, 2004 20:15:30 GMT
This looks like an LP produced by RCA Europe to show potential artists the capacity of their studios. Could you scan in the rest of the LP cover? The first couple tracks babelfish as: "Localization of the channels." "Putting to point of the 'antiskating' device" So, yeah, I think it's a good bet that the "Essempi musicall" (musical samples) were all recorded at RCA Europe. So now we have the question -- was the engineer who put this record together trying to say anything with his choice of tunes? A. "Hernando's Hideaway" -- this song was featured in "The Pajama Game," a 1954 Broadway musical, adapted to a film starring "Doris Day." "Pajama Game" may have been the original Doris' final film before she was replaced by "Eunice/Fauris" -- LYRICSB. "La ridda dei folletti" -- this seems to be the Italian title for the piece by 19th-century composer Bazzinni's "La Ronde des Lutins," or "Dance of the goblins." Any opera/classical buffs on the forums who could enlighten us a bit? C. Then of course we have "Mistery Tour" -- recorded by Paul? Retitled by the engineer, or whoever, at RCA as "Samarkhand" on the album sleeve. See the Samarkhand info I've posted on the Sylvie Vartan thread for more. D. "Miracle of Love" -- There is a Japanese composer called "Shinichi Tanabe." He (she?) has a few credits listed in the imdb for the 1970s. I noticed reading about Vartan the last few days that she was big in Japan and even recorded a few songs in Japanese for that market. Is it possible Vartan brought Tanabe to RCA Europe for a demo? E. "Thus Spake Zarathustra" -- Strauss' piece named after Nietzche's work in which he said "God is dead," and spoke of the "superman" and the "will to power." By 1971 it had been featured in Kubrick's "2001." (Not to mention the Apollo missions.) I think hearing the entire musical sample suite could be instructive...
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 5, 2004 20:39:22 GMT
This looks like an LP produced by RCA Europe to show potential artists the capacity of their studios. Could you scan in the rest of the LP cover? The first couple tracks babelfish as: "Localization of the channels." "Putting to point of the 'antiskating' device" So, yeah, I think it's a good bet that the "Essempi musicall" (musical samples) were all recorded at RCA Europe. So now we have the question -- was the engineer who put this record together trying to say anything with his choice of tunes? A. "Hernando's Hideaway" -- this song was featured in "The Pajama Game," a 1954 Broadway musical, adapted to a film starring "Doris Day." "Pajama Game" may have been the original Doris' final film before she was replaced by "Eunice/Fauris" -- LYRICSB. "La ridda dei folletti" -- this seems to be the Italian title for the piece by 19th-century composer Bazzinni's "La Ronde des Lutins," or "Dance of the goblins." Any opera/classical buffs on the forums who could enlighten us a bit? C. Then of course we have "Mistery Tour" -- recorded by Paul? Retitled by the engineer, or whoever, at RCA as "Samarkhand" on the album sleeve. See the Samarkhand info I've posted on the Sylvie Vartan thread for more. D. "Miracle of Love" -- There is a Japanese composer called "Shinichi Tanabe." He (she?) has a few credits listed in the imdb for the 1970s. I noticed reading about Vartan the last few days that she was big in Japan and even recorded a few songs in Japanese for that market. Is it possible Vartan brought Tanabe to RCA Europe for a demo? E. "Thus Spake Zarathustra" -- Strauss' piece named after Nietzche's work in which he said "God is dead," and spoke of the "superman" and the "will to power." By 1971 it had been featured in Kubrick's "2001." (Not to mention the Apollo missions.) I think hearing the entire musical sample suite could be instructive... What I can say..... YOU ARE FANTASTIC, TOTAL!Look at songs sequence!!!!
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Post by JamesPaul & Brian on Sept 5, 2004 22:29:12 GMT
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 5, 2004 23:05:55 GMT
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Post by TotalInformation on Sept 5, 2004 23:08:55 GMT
Uh, what does the RCA-Coca-Cola connection have to do with the Beatles Oldies LP, or anything else? Just the coca-cola bottle in the cover art? No, I think the connection there would be that Paul drank a lot of Coca-Cola. (Remember, "he shoot Coca-cola," not heroin like Faul.)
(Incidentally, I wasn't surprised to find the linked article on the WPI website -- English is like a second language to many engineers...)
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Post by TotalInformation on Sept 5, 2004 23:12:18 GMT
"Her Master's Voice" is just the name of the photo that RCA came to use as a logo because the dog resembles the RCA mascot dog -- there's no connection any EMI recordings that may have had "Her Master's Voice" in the title.
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Post by JamesPaul & Brian on Sept 5, 2004 23:16:55 GMT
Uh, what does the RCA-Coca-Cola connection have to do with the Beatles Oldies LP, or anything else? Bill's foot is pointing at directly...
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Post by JamesPaul & Brian on Sept 5, 2004 23:31:52 GMT
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Post by TotalInformation on Sept 5, 2004 23:50:49 GMT
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Post by abbey on Sept 7, 2004 23:18:49 GMT
Just supposition on my part, ,but what if the scenario went something like this: Paul is tired of the hectic schedule set by some one else. He wants to go solo. He comes to America and visits another record company. He doesn't know that they may have ties. As soon as the conference between Paul and the execs are done, someone is on the phone to EMI. And certain wheels are set in motion. Actions that caused Paul to be killed.This is just a guess on my part......adding 2 + 2
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Post by ViVi on Sept 8, 2004 16:39:10 GMT
It makes sense to me ViVi
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Post by unrepentant on Oct 27, 2004 19:52:02 GMT
by any chance would sun king have the audio clip of SAMMARKHAND [sp?] ready yet? the date sept. 11 was mentioned for that....it's now october 27th. i would love to hear it.
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Post by TotalInformation on May 19, 2006 22:14:42 GMT
We are less than a month from JPM's 64th birthday. This song needs to be posted on the net NOW!!!!! Note: - that "Mistery Tour" is NOT "Magical Mystery Tour" song - on the back cover there is the title "Samarkhand" "Mystery Tour" are the only words spoken during that piece. It seems like a "demo". The style is an "Helter Skelter" like. A piece made before/during September 1966 and left by the Bealtes in RCA....
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