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Post by Uberkinder on Aug 15, 2003 5:13:12 GMT
Nice lyrics. It would be wonderful if more and more songwriters began waking up and writing songs about this travesty. As the people who kidnapped Paul knew well, one of the best ways to spread an idea is through music, and they took advantage of the Beatles to promote the MK-Ultra mind control drug LSD, which Paul never took. I found a story on this website in the "Getting Better" description which confirms Faul took LSD first in 1967. Paul never did, even when all the other's were using in '66, and Faul spoke of Paul's resistance to taking acid in an Anthology interview. www.beatles-discography.com/index.html |
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Post by xpt626 on Aug 15, 2003 10:53:23 GMT
Revolver makes an excellent point. Patty Duke had a hit record in the 60's, and she says she cannot (and never could) sing more than a note at a time. She said her entire record was spliced together.
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Post by PaulBearer on Aug 15, 2003 11:14:59 GMT
The same with Michelle Pheiffer singing on a Batman movie I think.
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Post by Eggman on Aug 15, 2003 12:07:23 GMT
I think it's you guys in the fantasy world... Alex, throw the magazine to the garbage, it's the place where it must be Just my thought  |
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Post by Chris on Aug 15, 2003 17:09:47 GMT
;D I liked the poem & the song. Great job guys. AND - I know that I'M not living in a fantasy world. I wish I was. My life SUCKS !!!!! All we need is love !!!! Chris  |
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Post by Eggman on Aug 16, 2003 12:59:54 GMT
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Post by Forum Manager on Aug 18, 2003 0:32:19 GMT
eggman - my thoughts exactly!
chris - i feel for ya, hun!
uberkinder - i have very little musical talent, but i do enjoy writing lyrics, so i shall write some lyrics about 60IF, and maybe someone who does have musical talent (perhaps your band) would like to turn my lyrics into a song.
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Post by shells on Aug 18, 2003 1:50:12 GMT
I too found this site a few days ago (you’re being linked to as a ‘link of the day’ on a site that shows funny/sick pictures and games) and like everyone else I was completely shocked.
I am a postgraduate forensic student who has had some real experience of forensic identification. The identification I have done has been IDing the deceased with pictures etc, so it is a little different to what you’re doing here, but I’ll say what I think. For one I think that it is a little fallacious to say ‘Undeniable Forensic Proof’ on your home page, forensic evidence is very rarely undeniable. Positive identification can only be given by finger prints, DNA and dental records; and all must be collected and recorded by an expert. Image overlaying can be used in a court of Law, but it is up to the judge/jury to decide upon its validity.
The hair style worn by Paul is very awkward when looking at earology (something which I have had quite a lot of experience in), but it’s not the position that you want to be looking at (as the head angle can be misleading) but the pattern. Also it is worth acknowledging that earlobes do grow throughout life (it was once linked with wisdom, which is where earlobe stretching came from). Some good profiles with the ears not covered by hair would be really convincing.
Iris colour does dim in later life, my mother’s were brown, now they are grey/green (I’m pretty sure she is the same person!)
The way in which Paul seems to change height could also be argued with, especially in a time when men wore platform shoes as well as the ladies…
On the whole I thought the site was very good, and certainly kept my attention. I cannot give a full opinion as I have would have to see the original photos, but if you had some good ear shots you would have a very strong argument.
One thing has been bothering me though, has no one ever confronted the (new) Paul? I imagine that there are quite a lot of you out there. Have no interviewers ever questioned him about it, has anyone ever shouted it out from a crowd? Maybe someone should, if just to see the reaction…
Sorry about the length of the post, hope you’re still awake!
shell
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Post by Forum Manager on Aug 18, 2003 2:04:19 GMT
hey welcome! we could use some experts like you! im sure uberkinder or somebody could find some better pics without hair in the way. and we're thinking about how we're going to confront him. uberkinder wants to sue him. well keep adding your intelliect and thanx!
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 18, 2003 7:53:59 GMT
Positive identification can only be given by finger prints, DNA and dental records; and all must be collected and recorded by an expert.
Elsewise you wouldn't have a job, eh?
Anyway, note that it isn't a matter of the earlobes growing, but the ears themselves being in a different position on the impostor's skull.
Uberkinder for some reason took down a good profile comparison animation from his front page, but I think it may still be up on the spanish translation front page, you may want to check that out.
As for confronting Faul, I think most people here have only discovered the sites within the past couple of months. I know if I ran around confronting every celebrity fraud I know of (not impostors, mind you, just liars and charlatans and such) I'd have little time for much of anything else . . .
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Post by SunKing on Aug 18, 2003 9:55:27 GMT
I too found this site a few days ago (you’re being linked to as a ‘link of the day’ on a site that shows funny/sick pictures and games) and like everyone else I was completely shocked. I am a postgraduate forensic student who has had some real experience of forensic identification. The identification I have done has been IDing the deceased with pictures etc, so it is a little different to what you’re doing here, but I’ll say what I think. For one I think that it is a little fallacious to say ‘Undeniable Forensic Proof’ on your home page, forensic evidence is very rarely undeniable. Positive identification can only be given by finger prints, DNA and dental records; and all must be collected and recorded by an expert. Image overlaying can be used in a court of Law, but it is up to the judge/jury to decide upon its validity. The hair style worn by Paul is very awkward when looking at earology (something which I have had quite a lot of experience in), but it’s not the position that you want to be looking at (as the head angle can be misleading) but the pattern. Also it is worth acknowledging that earlobes do grow throughout life (it was once linked with wisdom, which is where earlobe stretching came from). Some good profiles with the ears not covered by hair would be really convincing. Iris colour does dim in later life, my mother’s were brown, now they are grey/green (I’m pretty sure she is the same person!) The way in which Paul seems to change height could also be argued with, especially in a time when men wore platform shoes as well as the ladies… On the whole I thought the site was very good, and certainly kept my attention. I cannot give a full opinion as I have would have to see the original photos, but if you had some good ear shots you would have a very strong argument. One thing has been bothering me though, has no one ever confronted the (new) Paul? I imagine that there are quite a lot of you out there. Have no interviewers ever questioned him about it, has anyone ever shouted it out from a crowd? Maybe someone should, if just to see the reaction… Sorry about the length of the post, hope you’re still awake! shell Shells: [glow=red,2,300]WELCOME!!![/glow] Friends, this is the kind of person I WANT in this forum!!! Clever confrontation, clever arguments! Well, Shell, do you know I've found TONS of surgical scars on Faul's face? Look at: space.virgilio.it/james_paul_mccartney@virgilio.it/t-g-a-e.htmlIf you can "zoom" in the pictures you can see ALL the surgical scars! "Ear reshaping" surgical scars too! ...And...please look at his "wrong reshaped" right nostril! Unfortunately for him I had quite all the surgical operation he had (really!) but not to be a double! An inspection of Faul's face by a plastic surgeon can report ALL we need to say: This man is not James Paul McCartney P. S. Faul's eye color changed at the supposed age of 25 then.... |
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Post by Chris on Aug 18, 2003 11:55:03 GMT
 ;D You GO my King !!! If you don't mind my asking, why did you need all that surgery  Were you injured in an accident of some kind I'm happy that you are ok now & with us here ;D I myself had rhino-plasty done twice. It is NOT a fun operation. Noone likes getting at least 15 needles around your eyes & nose. It's a very sensitive area of the body !!! Not to mention the pain of having the bridge of the nose broken. OUCH !!!!! All we need is love & THE TRUTH !!! Chris
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Post by SunKing on Aug 18, 2003 12:48:41 GMT
;D You GO my King !!! If you don't mind my asking, why did you need all that surgery Were you injured in an accident of some kind I'm happy that you are ok now & with us here ;D I myself had rhino-plasty done twice. It is NOT a fun operation. Noone likes getting at least 15 needles around your eyes & nose. It's a very sensitive area of the body !!! Not to mention the pain of having the bridge of the nose broken. OUCH !!!!! All we need is love & THE TRUTH !!! Chris 4 main surgical operations on my face.  Two of those on the same part (left) around jawbone and ear the same place where Faul had his main problem. And the coincidences about me and the whole matter don't stop here. I was 40 when I received "60IF": the same age John Lennon was when murdered. "60IF" arrived in the 40th anniversary of Beatles first single. ...and so many others.... |
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Post by shells on Aug 18, 2003 14:47:22 GMT
Thanks for the kind welcome guys! ;D
Sunking: The second link you sent me, it had no explanation of the photos. Do you believe the one on the left to be the true Paul and the one on the right the alleged impostor?
If so I’ll take a look when I’ve got a bit more time and give you a report to the best of my knowledge. It’s a nice shot of their right ear. I had seen it before but it was being cross faded so I couldn’t really get a good look.
I’m not a surgeon so I don’t know much about surgery scars, sorry
Out of interest where ether of them arrested? Mug shots are great for comparing; they also tell you the height.
shell
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Post by Revolver on Aug 18, 2003 14:48:14 GMT
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Post by Chris on Aug 18, 2003 15:05:35 GMT
;D Shells, yes Faul was arrested in the 70's I believe. In Japan for marijauna possession. There was a bit of a mixup. It seems that his fingerprints didn't match ones on file for James Paul !!! We need to get our hands on further proof of this. Documentation. Anyone TotalInformation, any ideas Thanks so much for joining our Forum & allowing us access to your expertise !!! Watch the movie Help !!! A copy from 1987 or earlier. You can clearly see that John, Paul & George are about the same height. Maybe George is a LITTLE taller then Paul. This was filmed in 1965. The year before Paul died. Two years before Faul was brought in to replace him. Revolver, yes we all commented on that on the other forum. I'm right handed. There's no way you'd catch me shaving with my left hand !!! All we need is love & THE TRUTH !!! Chris ;D |
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Post by krysia on Aug 22, 2003 18:14:15 GMT
to what revolver said about the lefty/righty thing... i completely agree. even though im ambidextrious, i still perfer doing things with certian hands (even though i can do it with the other hand just as well.) for example... i usually write with my left hand, do cosmetic things (like shave and put on makeup) with my right hand, eat with my right hand, and do basically all the random things like playing with my cell phone, picking things up, with my left hand. i can see him learning how to do things with the other hand, but its not the easiest thing for most people, and im the only person (besides my grandma) who is ambidextrious.
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Post by Forum Manager on Aug 22, 2003 20:06:24 GMT
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Post by JakesBrie on Aug 23, 2003 4:10:15 GMT
Welcome to all the new people from another here only a few days.
I understand how disheartening it is to learn about the possibility that Paul McCartney died in 1966. The day I first heard the rumors was in October of 1968. I was decorating for our high school Halloween Ball. A fanatic from the first moment The Beatles appeared on American TV (a tape of "She Loves You" on the Jack Paar Show), I was devastated and did not want to attend that night, but my friends convinced me I had to. My costume was an Italian matron's mourning dress and veil with a pin bearing Paul's likeness.
All these years later, now a lawyer, I still lean to the belief that Paul indeed died, though my older self holds some skepticism for just how it happened.
New insights often come from those with fresh eyes. I look forward to the ideas coming from all the new people.
Brie
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Post by Forum Manager on Aug 23, 2003 5:26:53 GMT
hey welcome!! youre a lawyer? great! we could really use one! uberkinder is planning on suing faul for commercial fraud. we could use a good lawyer on our side!
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Post by JakesBrie on Aug 23, 2003 5:32:16 GMT
I would be happy to contribute what I can, but as someone else said, it is much too soon to file suit.
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Post by Forum Manager on Aug 23, 2003 5:33:35 GMT
yes, soon for right now. but one day, we will have enough evidence!
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Were you injured in an accident of some kind 