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Post by beldabeast on Sept 1, 2003 16:18:27 GMT
Is the location of pauls alleged death known ?
If so , is there any activity regularly occurring there . ( Visits , flowers left , etc ?)
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Post by SunKing on Sept 1, 2003 17:27:27 GMT
We all here are try to find it. Do you know where is that place in England?
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Post by pennylane on Sept 1, 2003 17:29:56 GMT
being a native of the uk i can tell you that their are a lot of roads just like that there.. however, if anyone can tell me what that is thats sticking up behind the fence it may be a clue....
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Post by SunKing on Sept 1, 2003 20:49:05 GMT
"Free As A Bird" video alias "Beatles' Visual Clues Compilation"
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Post by Eggman on Sept 2, 2003 11:38:36 GMT
I read many times that "The fool on the hill" scenes were filmed in France
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Post by beldabeast on Sept 2, 2003 13:01:01 GMT
being a native of the uk i can tell you that their are a lot of roads just like that there.. however, if anyone can tell me what that is thats sticking up behind the fence it may be a clue.... It appears to be a tree that had it's branches removed and since covered in Kuzu or some similar vine . I take it that is where the body was recovered. Seems to me the pic could be circulated among Beatle fanatics in the UK . Someone should reconize the place.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Sept 2, 2003 22:15:24 GMT
We all here are try to find it. The Long and Winding Road!! (Who's door does it lead to?) Looks like "She's leaving home" too. Somewhere on this site it was mentioned who the person "meeting a man from the motor trade" was, or who the man who was met was. If we know who the man or woman were, we can find where this is! I believe it was the identity of the man that was given, and also, if the information isn't on this site, it was contained in a link that is on this site. Let's just hope this was filmed at the actual road.
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Post by PaulBearer on Sept 3, 2003 12:08:14 GMT
I read many times that "The fool on the hill" scenes were filmed in France Odd since MMT is supposed to be a tour of England isn't it? Could the scene be in or near Bishopsgate?
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Post by Eggman on Sept 3, 2003 12:11:01 GMT
I think you're right PB Could the scene be in or near Bishopsgate? We need our UK reporter here: Spanky!!!! ;D
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Post by pennylane on Sept 3, 2003 12:20:46 GMT
its not bishopsgate.. bishopsgate is in london, you won't find a road like that in london. Someone said earlier about cumbria, thats a possible, but one thing is sure, that is in northern england....
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Post by Eggman on Sept 3, 2003 12:29:48 GMT
Thanks for your report Spanky!!!! ;D
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Post by pennylane on Sept 3, 2003 12:31:17 GMT
your welcome eggy... ;D ;D
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Post by beldabeast on Sept 3, 2003 13:32:25 GMT
its not bishopsgate.. bishopsgate is in london, you won't find a road like that in london. Someone said earlier about cumbria, thats a possible, but one thing is sure, that is in northern england.... Someone said the Beatles were summoned to the scene to ID the body , I believe . Seems odd the police would hold a days- old body at the scene rather than removing same to the medical examiners office . Seems cruel for one thing . There must have been insects ( if in season) and gore in evidence. Any info on where the interested parties were summoned FROM ? That may be a clue for narrowing the search radius .
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Post by beldabeast on Sept 3, 2003 13:36:28 GMT
We all here are try to find it. Do you know where is that place in England? What a interesting place ! Is that a cloud on the hill behind the suitcase girl's head ? Was the body in the foreground or was he........ Alone on a hill head in the clouds
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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 3, 2003 19:58:06 GMT
Crooked roads, cloudy weather and hills - my gut instinct is that that is somewhere in the north, Lancashire or Cumbria, for example. "4 thousand holes in blackburn, lancashire..." could the holes be graves in a graveyard? could paul's grave be one of those holes?
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Post by Eggman on Sept 3, 2003 22:23:09 GMT
I was thinking exactly the same #9!!!!
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Post by burntangel on Sept 4, 2003 0:58:44 GMT
Great clue. Wonder if the web has online databases that list volume of graves per site, in Lancashire?
Then, graves buried in say, late 66, between say, 9/20 to say, 12/1 or whatever. But of course, just thinking aloud again, I doubt his cover grave would even be listed.
But, old library records or microfiche of the time should have some kind of record.
Then, just watch that cemetary on 9/11, which is coming up fast.
Not much time to get up and do it.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Sept 4, 2003 1:35:11 GMT
Just a thought about the grave. I'm sure it isn't marked as "Paul McCartney". When Ted Kennedy caused the drowning death of Mary Jo Kopechne, she was buried with a marker that says "MaryJo". No last name, and not with her relatives. (Been to it many times.)
Good Heavens! Interment.net, Cemeteries of Lancashire County. Lists them and who's who among the dead! Not everyone though. Darn.
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Post by TotalInformation on Sept 4, 2003 3:50:13 GMT
Seems odd the police would hold a days- old body at the scene rather than removing same to the medical examiners office . Seems cruel for one thing .
The agenda was to traumatize the remaining Beatles as much as possible so as to easier control them . . .
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Post by burntangel on Sept 4, 2003 5:17:03 GMT
Agreed. The first and most vital step when controlling assetts is to instill a deep and terrifying fear engram. This traumatizes the lower, reactive mind and causes entropic states to occur. Then, when terror is at its magicical height, the deal is laid down.
They send some reassuring parental figures who miraculously turn dogsh*t into diamonds, and talk them into a reality they would never do in a million years. This is how its done, in many cases of taking control.
"Sure, kid. We can help you. We want to help you. We can do anything, but then you have to agree to this new reality...or else this is the end of the conversation and we all go for a ride."
They're your new best friends and we'll do it all, but "now you do what we say do."
Gruesome brutal murders, being eaten and burned and rotten after near two weeks...what a mind f*ck.
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Post by victor on Sept 4, 2003 6:17:19 GMT
there was a hill in the background in that other picture too, the blurry one with the white car. so assuming the truth of the PID rumor, i think a hill was present at the death scene. and, i think the death itself was a surprise to the kidnappers.
with paul suddenly dead and the only chance for them to get ransom money ruined, i think they just gave up. they went back where they came from, leaving paul's body there to be found.....
if paul WAS left (perhaps gagged and restrained) on top of some rural hill somewhere it would probably be a while before they found the body. or, he could have been moved there when his unexpected demise led to the aborting of the kidnap attempt.
what intrigues me is how the vehicles were found abandoned. that strongly implies that there were people in the area who were "in on it" and helping the kidnappers pull off their plot.
of course all this pre-supposes the truth of 60-IF, something one should take with a grain of salt in my opinion....
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Post by beldabeast on Sept 5, 2003 23:46:00 GMT
Seems odd the police would hold a days- old body at the scene rather than removing same to the medical examiners office . Seems cruel for one thing .The agenda was to traumatize the remaining Beatles as much as possible so as to easier control them . . . Of course . How silly of me. That was just my " Main Street USA thinking getting in the way ! Sorry .
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Post by beldabeast on Sept 5, 2003 23:46:57 GMT
I doubt there IS a grave . He was likely cremated
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Sept 6, 2003 2:57:58 GMT
I totally agree; they wouldn't want a body around that could be dug up and analysed.
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Post by evidence on Sept 6, 2003 9:50:16 GMT
Interesting..... It's a real mistery
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