Another clue for us all

[burntangel]

So, sitting and replaying every frame of the section on the Free as a Bird video, where George Harrison arrives, parks, then the van with the crime scene shot.

There are two crime scene shots.

In the reflection of the black van (kidnapping van) front window, you can clearly make out the frontal shot of a corpse. The hair, eyes, Paul's black tie still tied on, a hand resting over his stomach.

This was already figured out, right?

I'm going over old ground?

[TotalInformation]

Yeah, I think that's even on the main 60IF page.

[burntangel]

Not that shot. That head shot of Paul in the police coroner's wagon is the first one. THe second van, the accident van, just after the first van, also has the reflection of a man lying on the ground, full body, then it becomes three people, nothing showing below the waist.

THe 2nd corpse shot.

[SunKing]

Exactly.
My son noticed that.
Please put that shot in this thread.
Thank You!

[Eggman]

Yes!!! Put it quickly!!!!

[burntangel]

I am checking the prices on a video capture card for the VHS. I played the clip in frame slo-mo, about ten times to some friends, who could also make out the body.

The thing is, grab the frame, import it into photoshop, then border solarize it, so it finds all the edges. The tie, hand, face, legs, arms, everything we can see hear, should come out in embossed relief.

[Pat]

I don't see anything that resembles a body in the reflection of that van.. please post a screenshot.

[JoJo]

I spent some time, lots of time actually trying to find what you are all talking about, but no luck. The VHS version was referenced, not the DVD version which I have, so perhaps something was "cleaned" out? Although the corpse shot on the window of the first van is as clear as a bell!

[innspector]

PLEASE!!!!! POST A SCREENSHOT, I'm dying to see this!!!

[Danthology]

There appear to be big clues in the video. Does anyone know if anything "bad" happened to anyone who was responsible for putting the video together, such as the producers or the director? That info alone might be a clue in itself.

[innspector]

HEYY!!!!! Does anyone have a video capture card on his computer to make a screenshot of this clue and post it PLEAASSEE???

[innspector]

Hey!! What happened to the screenshot of this frame? I think it's a big clue

[SgtPepper]

xpt626 said:

is this the one?

That doesn't particularly look like the top part of a dead body to me - though considering the context it may be intended as one.

The only time I watched the Free as a Bird video is when they just released it. They made a big deal of it on TV - had an hour or maybe even 2 hour special on the Beatles, which ended with 2 songs that both were awful IMO - worse than anything I ever heard from them or Faul (if he exists). I was excited that the Beatles were possibly reforming and were gonna start releasing records again, and was terribly disappointed I know that may not be popular with some people here, but you should probably hear this because I'm sure many others thought the same thing. It probably left a large part of a new generation of potential fans thinking "is this the Beatles people make a big fuss over"?

Yet I did see the head go by the screen (that's shown in 60IF), and clearly could tell it was a head of something - couldn't tell what. Not a walrus - maybe an alien (if I was aware of aliens then - didn't become popularized until a few years later (whether they exist either - or the one I posted elsewhere yesterday ;D)). I thought "that's odd". But even though I was aware of the PID notions, that was a real long time ago and I didn't make any sort of connection.

So I suspect they did indeed go thru the big fuss to get as many people as possible in front of the sets when they showed this video. But people are not that perceptive, and I'm sure it made almost no difference regarding anyone believing what we do. The Beatles didn't need popularity or money then, so I don't think they cared either. Selling the record seemed to be the last thing on their mind.

Of all the evidence that supports PID, perhaps the most relevant is that from 1967 on, they couldn't do one damned thing (or one that wasn't) without some sort of menacing backward message - or forward in amongst noise, etc. They couldn't simply release a record for the sake of entertainment.

Noise? What's that noise again? PID.

[SgtPepper]

Maybe. I never felt an unusual urge for refreshments, but Magical Mystery Tour was one of the weirdest damn things I ever saw. I'm not talking about the colors - psychedelic sort of thing - whatever that would be called. Something about it was very strange - the filming used, setting, "atmosphere" - subliminals possibly in it? I don't think it was because of a Faul - it would be something more than one person you think is another.

[IanSingleton777]

xpt626 said:

perhaps they were counting on the "subliminal" aspect to help, as well....remember the subliminal messages years ago at the movies to send everyone scurrying to the refreshment stands? And the frame in Psycho where they added the skeleton?

...and, how could the corpse have 'paul's' hair visible, and a tie on the shirt, when the 60IF document clearly maintains they burned his body to try and cover it all up? In that case, the two remaining Beatles (George & Ringo) who were probably out-ranked by pushy Faul, engaged in purposeful disinformation via the corpse image in the video?