Was Paul blind?

[byrdsmaniac]

Oh brother!
Well here we go....
I was at "Revolution9" and reading the thread about "The Wall Ruined us", and someone had posted the lyrics to Elton John's song, "Daniel". Here they are:

DANIEL
Elton John/B. Taupin

Daniel is travelling tonight on a plane
I can see the red tail lights heading for spain
Oh and I can see daniel waving goodbye
God it looks like daniel, must be the clouds in my eyes

They say spain is pretty though I’ve never been
Well daniel says it’s the best place that he’s ever seen
Oh and he should know, he’s been there enough
Lord I miss daniel, oh I miss him so much

Daniel my brother you are older than me
Do you still feel the pain of the scars that won’t heal
Your eyes have died but you see more than i
Daniel you’re a star in the face of the sky

Daniel is travelling tonight on a plane
I can see the red tail lights heading for spain
Oh and I can see daniel waving goodbye
God it looks like daniel, must be the clouds in my eyes
Oh God it looks like daniel, must be the clouds in my eyes
(end)

Whoever Daniel is, his "eyes have died".
Daniel was heading to Spain.
It made me think of these lines in Procol Harum's "Toujours L'Amour":

"I'm thinking of renting a villa in France
A French girl has offered to give me a chance
Or maybe I'll take an excursion to Spain
And buy a revolver and blow out my brains".

As I have mentioned many times. the entire "Grande Hotel" album by Procol Harum seems to be about Paul.
So I have wondered if Paul had attempted suicide.
But in any case we have Spain as the destination in both songs, and the mention of a suicide.

There has been a discussion on this forum about a plane being shot down being part of the PID mystery.
In Pink Floyd's album "A Momentary Lapse of Reason" we have the song "Learning to Fly" (about an amateur pilot) followed by the sounds of a computer guided shoot-down of a plane in the following song, "The Dogs of War". The implication is that an amateur took a plane, and it was shot down.
The song which precedes ""Learning To Fly" on the album, the opening cut, clearly creates the mental imagery of the wreckage of a plane in a body of water.
It is called (significantly) "Signs of Life".


Previously I have speculated that Paul, trying to flee from France after a failed attempt to elope with Sylvie Vartan, attempted to flee France in a plane that the French shot down. They imprisoned Paul, but in a facility for the mentally ill, as opposed to a regular jail.
I have said I believed Elton John's song "Madman Across the Water" was about Paul's stay there.
That song includes these words:
"Is the nightmare black, or are the windows painted?"
The question seems to be asked by the 'madman'.
There's a suggestion, then, that the madman has gone blind, but doesn't realize it.

Look now, at the lyrics to the Rolling Stones'

PAINT IT BLACK
I see a red door and I want it painted black
No colors anymore I want them to turn black
I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes
I have to turn my head until my darkness goes

I see a line of cars and they’re all painted black
With flowers and my love both never to come back
I see people turn their heads and quickly look away
Like a new born baby it just happens ev’ry day

I look inside myself and see my heart is black
I see my red door and it has been painted black
Maybe then I’ll fade away and not have to face the facts
It’s not easy facin’ up when your whole world is black

No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue
I could not foresee this thing happening to you

If I look hard enough into the settin’ sun
My love will laugh with me before the mornin’ comes

I see a red door and I want it painted black
No colors anymore I want them to turn black
I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes
I have to turn my head until my darkness goes

Hmm, hmm, hmm,...

I wanna see it painted, painted black
Black as night, black as coal
I wanna see the sun blotted out from the sky
I wanna see it painted, painted, painted, painted black
(end)

The person in the song has a desire to no longer see, due to his guilt in the death of his beloved.

Such a person might attempt to blot out the world by committing suicide.

I have commented on the Beatles album, "Revolver";
that in the album cover drawing, there's a small photo of Paul in Paul's hair, about the size a hole would be if one were to put a REVOLVER to his head and pull the trigger.
The cover of the album "Revolver" is basically white, withe the Beatles' eyes emphasized. The brightness of day.
The back of the album is basically BLACK, and all the Beatles are wearing sunglasses, the way blind people do! The darkness of night. Or blindness.

[byrdsmaniac]

I am reminded of our discussion in the "Twin Freaks" thread about Jeni Crowley possibly beihg a female version of Paul.
Look at these pictures of "Jenny Wren" in that thread,
and in the pictures of her in the MMT bus.
Does it seem as if perhaps John is "there for her", guiding her around? I definitely got that impression in the picture where John is swigging down a drink while his arm is around her.



(other pictures here)
60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=faul&action=display&thread=1118024720&page=3

And speaking of "Jenny Wren":

JENNY WREN
(Faul)

Like so many girls, Jenny Wren could sing
But a broken heart, took her song away
Like the other girls, Jenny Wren took wing
She could see the world, and it's foolish ways

How, we, spend our days, casting, love aside
Losing, sight of life, day, by, day
She saw poverty, breaking up her home
Wounded warriors, took her song away

(solo) verse, chorus

But the day will come, Jenny Wren will sing
When this broken world, mends its foolish ways
Then we, spend our days, catching up on life
All be-cause of you, Jenny Wren
(end)

"Losing sight of life, day by day"?!
Jenny went blind gradually
"Your eyes have died" Elton John sings.
That sounds like they were alive previously.

Are the eyes described here "Daniel's" eyes? :

Shine On You Crazy Diamond IV (Pink Floyd)
Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Now there’s a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
You were caught on the crossfire of childhood and stardom, blown on the steel breeze.
Come on you target for faraway laughter,
come on you stranger, you legend,you martyr, and shine!

[byrdsmaniac]

Blindness is implicit in a number of Beatle lyrics.
In "Lady Madonna" we have these lyrics:

"Tuesday afternoon is never ending
Wednesday morning papers didn't come
Thursday night you stocking needed mending
See how they run"

It may be a stretch, but "see how they run" is a
line of the nursery rhyme "Three Blind Mice"!

Would Lady Madonna's baby wonder how she made ends meet because she was blind?

OK, This is pretty thin, so let's move on:

WITHIN YOU/WITHOUT YOU
We were talking-about the space between us all
And the people-who hide themselves behind a wall of illusion
Never glimpse the truth-then it's far too late-when they pass away.
We were talking-about the love we all could share-when we find it
To try our best to hold it there-with our love
With our love-we could save the world-if they only knew.
Try to realise it's all within yourself
No-one else can make you change
And to see you're really only very small,
And life flows on within you and without you.
We were talking-about the love that's gone so cold and the people,
Who gain the world and lose their soul-
They don't know-they can't see-are you one of them?
When you've seen beyond yourself-then you may find, peace of mind,
Is waiting there-
And the time will come when you see
we're all one, and life flows on within you and without you.
(end)

Lots of references to seeing here. And of course the lyrics are about "seeing" the spiritual side of life,
but is it significant that it is stressed so much?
Think of who it was that seems to have attempted to
"hide himself behind a wall of illusion".
Think of the "Paint It Black" lyrics. The person speaking in that song tries to hide himself from seeing reality by
blinding himself to the outward realities.
Could "Within You/Without You" specifically be a message to Paul from the others?
Why were "we" (the Beatles?) talking about "the space between us all"?

From "Come Together":

"Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller".

"Joo joo eyeballs" are the out-of-sync eyes that one sees frequently in blind people.
Now the lyrics here go on to describe a corpse, so
one could say the eyeballs were "joojoo" due
to the fact that the person was dead.
But they may have been when he was alive as well.

[byrdsmaniac]

Look again at this line in "Paint It Black".

"If I look hard enough into the settin’ sun
My love will laugh with me before the mornin’ comes"

I'm hoping this is poetry, but did Paul deliberately blind
himself by staring into the sun so that he wouldn't have to see the world around him?

Did Paul, after being rescued from imprisonment in France by the English, blind himself due to his dispair at
what happened with Sylvie? And did he then attempt suicide?

Apparently 'Daniel' had been to Spain a number of times:

"They say spain is pretty though I’ve never been
Well daniel says it’s the best place that he’s ever seen
Oh and he should know, he’s been there enough
Lord I miss daniel, oh I miss him so much."


Had he, on a previous visit, attempted suicide there?

In any case, the plane carrying blind 'Daniel' was shot down:

"The rain exploded with a mighty crash as we fell into the sun"
"He got early warning" - the arrest and imprisonment in France
"He got muddy water"- the watery grave of "Strawberry Fields"(listen carefully!) and "Octopus's Garden".


Read again the lyrics of "Conquistadore" in the Nat Jackley thread. His enemy came to see his body (on the shore?) and gloat, but left with respect.
Spain-bullfights- there's the connection! Why Faul is dressed as a matador on Sgt Pepper.

Dare I mention the last line in this verse from "Daniel"?

"Daniel my brother you are older than me
Do you still feel the pain of the scars that won’t heal
Your eyes have died but you see more than i
Daniel you’re a star in the face of the sky"

This is a long enough discussion without going into the whole "was shot into space on Gemini 12" discussion.

[byrdsmaniac]

Here's a bit of Postscript.
After posting all the above, I got to thinking about Elton calling Paul "Daniel". That reminded me of Michael Jackson's song "Ben", which is supposed to be about a rat (there was a movie with a rat with that name). Michael's song basically says, "You feel people don't want you around, but you've got a friend in me."
Seems it could be a message to a despondent Paul.
And of course, Michael's friendship with Faul is/was well-known. Michael could have told Faul to tell Paul the song was for him.
When I thought about "Ben", I thought about "Bennie and the Jets", Elton John's song. So I wondered, "Are Bennie and the Jets" the Beatles? Are there lyrics with
clues about the Beatles in that song?
here are the lyrics:

BENNIE AND THE JETS
Hey kids, shake it loose together
The spotlight's hitting something
That's been known to change the weather
We'll kill the fatted calf tonight
So stick around
You're gonna hear electric music
Solid walls of sound

Say, Candy and Ronnie, have you seen them yet
But they're so spaced out, Bennie and the Jets
Oh but they're weird and they're wonderful
Oh Bennie she's really keen
She's got electric boots a mohair suit
You know I read it in a magazine
Bennie and the Jets

Hey kids, plug into the faithless
Maybe they're blinded
But Bennie makes them ageless
We shall survive, let us take ourselves along
Where we fight our parents out in the streets
To find who's right and who's wrong
(end)

Well, we know about the electric boots and mohair suits, but what does the third verse mean?

I always thought "the faithless" were the non-fans of the band in the song, but if Bennie makes "them" ageless, it sounds like "they" are the band. ("The faithlless"are the band.)
Is this a tribute to Faul? To Paul?
The band is "blind" to Faul's greatness? Paul's?
Maybe this use of the word "blind" here is supposed to be a clue about Paul, ironically applied to the other members of the band.
"Faithless" is a really interesting term here.
It could mean the other Beatles had no faith in Faul,
or it could mean that when Paul quit they "lost their faith" in the mission.

[byrdsmaniac]

Here are lyrics from Pink Floyd's "Yet Another Movie" that may apply to this discussion:


"And still this ceaseless murmuring
The babbling that I brook
The seas of faces, eyes upraised
The empty screen, the vacant look

A man in black on a snow white horse,
A pointless life has run its course,
The red rimmed eyes, the tears still run
As he fades into the setting sun"


The first verse suggests a singer hearing murmuring voices in his head while an expectant audience
sees him looking "out of it". He doesn't see his audience.
The second verse describes this person (on the farm?)
dressed in black and fading away; his eyes reddened with tears.
Are they red from staring into the sun as well?
"He fades into the setting sun".
Again I ask, did Paul deliberately stare into the sun, as the song "Paint It Black" mentions?
Or was this staring because there was "nobody home"?
Maybe both?

[byrdsmaniac]

Another reference to it? (Second verse)

BLACKBIRD
(Beatles)

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these broken wings and learn to fly
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to arise

Blackbird singing in the dead of night*
Take these sunken eyes and learn to see
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to be free.

Blackbird fly, Blackbird fly
Into the light of a dark black night.

Blackbird fly, Blackbird fly
Into the light of a dark black night.

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these broken wings and learn to fly
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to arise
You were only waiting for this moment to arise
You were only waiting for this moment to arise
(end)

* Birds don't generally sing "in the dead of night". This could be the darkness Paul saw regardless of the time of day.

[Ludwig]

I must say Byrds I really enjoy your threads! They get the wood-a-burnin' up in the attic, if ya know what I mean. ;DThe band Blind Faith seems to fit here somehow, no? Clapton, Baker, Winwood and Grech (sp?) if for nothing else, the name. Also the Clapton connection.

[byrdsmaniac]

Wow Ludwig! I never thought about the name "Blind Faith", but that clicks on two levels.
Blind + Faith.
If the Neil Young song is to be taken literally (and of course it is on one level, imho, then Paul was living in Oklahoma, both somewhat blind and in the land of "faith".
"Where the holy people grow" as Faul put it.

Before I go on, I do want to thank you for your compliment. I really appreciate it, because I have tried to keep my posts interesting as well as somewhat informative.
But, that having been said, I have to say with sincerity that I feel that I am just an interpreter, and not always
accurate.
At the risk of sounding pompous for comparing myself to one of the masters, my experience is much like the sequence of what John wrote in "Strawberry Fields" where he said,

"Always; no sometimes, think it’s me, but you know I know when it’s a dream.
I think I know I mean a ’yes’ but it’s all wrong, that is I think I disagree."

What happens to me is that thoughts will come into my mind about a subject on this board, so of course I think the thought is mine. I think it's "me".
But I notice that in some instances the thought process is being directed toward a destination, so then I know that it's 'a dream'.
I think I know (what the story is, then).
I mean, in a sense, yes, I do.
But no, if it doesn't add up or compute, then it's all wrong. Or at least it seems to be wrong.
So I think I disagree with the outcome of a chain of thoughts that doesn't work.
See?

But when I'm right, things add up, and then I know it.
Still, it's not me.
It's just my experience.
Some of you know what I mean, right?

It's like what the apostle Paul tried to say when talking about his faith in Christ when he said words along the lines of, "I [we] can do anything in Christ, but remember that what is done is done through Christ, lest any man should boast." (Hey, look what I did!)


Enough babbling!
There's another reason for "Blind Faith".
It has to do with this song:

THE FOOL ON THE HILL
Day after day alone on the hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still,
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning around.

Well on his way his head in a cloud,
The man of a thousand voices talking perfectly loud
But nobody ever hears him,
Or the sound he appears to make,
And he never seems to notice,
But the fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning around.

And nobody seems to like him
They can tell what he wants to do.
And he never shows his feelings,
But the fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning around.

He never listens to them,
He knows that they are the fools
They don't like him,
The fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down,
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning around.
(end)

So we have: "The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still." (He's a corpse.)
But at the same time, there's this:

"Well on his way, his head in a cloud,
The man of a thousand voices talking perfectly loud
But nobody ever hears him...."
SO:
1. He's well on his way.
2. His head's in the clouds.
3. He's a "man of a thousand voices"
4. Nobody ever hears him.

The song mentions other things, but let's just look at those qualities.

1. He's well on his way to where ever it is he's going.
2. Yet his head is "in the clouds".
3.Being a "man of a thousand voices", he's the late Mel Blanc. (No, but you get partial credit.)
And 4. Nobody ever hears him.

Because time is of the ESSENcE, I will cut to the chase for you.

1. He's well on his way to Earth.
2. "the sun" is in the clouds.
3. A man of a thousand voices, some at a place of worship near you, no doubt. Or on the radio or TV.
4. Prayers get answered, usually not audibly.

Is this really a song about Paul?

If you and I were living in the Middle East 2,000 years ago, and I were to say to you,
"Who's that fool up there on the hill?", who would I be talking about?

THEY don't like him, the fool.
THEY can see what He wants to do.
"He one holy roller" all right.

Since this thread was about blindness, perhaps you might be saying, "I was blind, but now I see."

And then again, maybe not!
I could be 'wrong', of course. The song could be about Paul.

This has been a slow train so far, so as not to shake the eggs off the Surrealistic Pillow, bless their pointed little heads.
But the "Embryonic Journey" is about over, and
the folks down in the engine room would like this bus to speed up a bit so we can hit warp speed by, oh, maybe a week from Sunday?
It's like the car in the movie "Back To the Future";
we have to accelerate quickly to hit warp speed and go into the time warp. ("Let's Do the Time Warp Again!")
"6/10s of a mile in 3 seconds" or whatever it was.
So it may be a bit of a bumpy ride, but FEAR NOT!
Your faith isn't blind! And you have a ticket to ride!
Even if some other passengers are still half asleep (in spite of the wake-up calls on "Good Morning" and the statements in the "Reprise") you can handle "Eight Miles High" without too much of a sweat.
(Just had to get that one in there! ;D)

Would someone please get the Dezombificator and Apollo C Vermouth from the Holo-deck?
Thank you.

[LUCY]

Why was the bust on Sgt Pepper a key componant of the original Blake sketches? I still see the buldge of a third eye on him, which leads me to this.....

www.hiddenmeanings.com/singleeyepineal.htm

"And the time will come when you see
we're all one, and life flows on within you and without you."

Do I get the trophy now, Apollo?

[byrdsmaniac]

About "Blind Faith"

www.angelfire.com/wi/blindfaith/index.html

Look at the song titles, for Pete's sake:

Had To Cry Today
Can't Find My Way Home
Well All Right
Presence Of The Lord
Sea Of Joy
Do What You Like
(I Would Rather See You) Sleeping In The Ground

And I haven't even had time to read the lyrics yet!

[byrdsmaniac]

lucy2 said:

Why was the bust on Sgt Pepper a key componant of the original Blake sketches?

I'm at work right now, so i can't spend the time at this moment to check, but wasn't the bust of Yeats,
the poet who said, "(N)othing is real until it is experienced"?
("Are You Experienced?")
Somebody who knows Hendrix, please tell us what clues he put in his material!

[Ludwig]

www.angelfire.com/wi/blindfaith/bflyrics.html

A link to the Blind Faith album, songlist cover art, etc. Note the original cover art!! The cover with the girl and the airplane. It was no doubt pulled because of the photo of the girl but the toy plane bears some significance!

[Ludwig]

Is this really a song about Paul?

Amazing Grace, uhh post!

[plastic paul]

Lucy I think the answer to your question is yes, as the supposed "original sketch" featured someone in the same position as the bust.

[byrdsmaniac]

Here you go Lucy. In the lyrics that Ludwig posted the link to:

Sea Of Joy {Winwood}

Following the shadow of the sky
Or are they only figments of my eyes
Feeling close to when the race is run
Waiting in our boats to set sail
The sea of joy

Once the door swings open into space
I'm already waiting in disguise
Or, is it just a thorn between my eyes
Waiting in our boats to set sail
The sea of joy

Having trouble coming through
This concrete blocks my view.
(end)

The swelling over the third eye due to "a thorn".
Symbollically, the third eye opened with a thorn.
(Sort of the same meaning as "the hanged man" in the Tarot deck. Spiritual awareness as a consequence of pain endured, you might say.)
The next post explains more.

[byrdsmaniac]

Here's a related song to the "Sea of Joy" one above, imo.
Note the incredible lyrics.

I SHALL BE RELEASED
(Bob Dylan)

They say everything can be replaced,
Yet every distance is not near.
So I remember every face
Of every man who put me here.

I see my light come shining
From the west unto the east.
Any day now, any day now,
I shall be released.

They say every man needs protection,
They say every man must fall.
Yet I swear I see my reflection
Some place so high above this wall.

I see my light come shining
From the west unto the east.
Any day now, any day now,
I shall be released.

Standing next to me in this lonely crowd,
Is a man who swears he's not to blame.
All day long I hear him shout so loud,
Crying out that he was framed.

I see my light come shining
From the west unto the east.*
Any day now, any day now,
I shall be released.
(end)

He'll be released from his tomb, but he sees his reflection high above the mausoleum wall.
The light of his return as well.
* A reference to Matthew 24:27 in the Bible, but with the direction reversed. (I don't know why.)
The song links the replacement phenomenon with the resurrection of the dead predicted before the second coming.

Both song alluding to a shortness of time:
"Feeling close to when the race is run;
Waiting in our boats to set sail
The sea of joy."

The line: "Or, is it just a thorn between my eyes" in "Sea of Joy" is a reference to the crown of thorns Jesus was made to wear during his crucifiction.

[byrdsmaniac]

These lyrics were posted in another thread, but I am moving them here for the time being, because they underscore the element of time and, perhaps, the urgency of getting to the core of the mystery quickly.
You see, to understand what the real meaning of the words, "A Hard Day's Night" and "Help!" are, or "Yesterday and Today" for that matter, you have to have the perspective of time.
The song below was prophetic. It was written in about 1967, but I'm quite certain it is about now.


Mr. Soul
( Neil Young)

Oh, hello Mr. Soul, I dropped by to pick up a reason
For the thought that I caught
that my head is the event of the season
Why in crowds just a trace of my face could seem so pleasin'
I'll cop out to the change, but a stranger is putting the tease on.*

I was down on a frown when the messenger brought me a letter
I was raised by the praise of a fan who said I upset her
Any girl in the world could have easily known me better
She said, You're strange, but don't change, and I let her.

In a while will the smile on my face turn to plaster?
Stick around while the clown who is sick does the trick of disaster
For the race of my head and my face is moving much faster
Is it strange I should change?
I don't know, why don't you ask her?
(end)

* translation: I'll admit there's been a change; you're being fooled by Faul.

This song is about Faul's face, imo.
There has never been a time that I am aware of where Bill's head was 'the event of the season', save for, perhaps, among plastic surgeons who knew about it.
The song goes on to ask, in effect, how long can it last?
But what's curious here is the line about the clown who is sick doing the trick of disaster.
I won't beat around the Bush here: this is a reference to the events of 9/11, imo.
www.emediawire.com/releases/2006/1/emw339303.htm
So it is pointing to a point in time when the wheels are in motion, so to speak.
A time when there's not much time for 'business as usual'.
Look at the song "American Pie" by Don McLean.
It points to Mick Jagger doing a concert during a football game.
And the lyrics are, somewhat frighteningly, "Bye bye, Miss American Pie."
You have the song "When I'm 64", pointing to this year.
You have Jim Morrison's songs: "The End", and "When the Music's Over" (Turn out the lights.)
This doesn't look good!
"The End" gives instructions what to do:
"The west is the best; get here, and we'll do the rest".
Need more info?
How about this:

SILENT RUNNING
(Mike and the Mechanics)

Take the children and yourself
And hide out in the cellar
By now the fighting will be close at hand
Don’t believe the church and state
And everything they tell you
Believe in me, I’m with the high command

Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?

There’s a gun and ammunition
Just inside the doorway
Use it only in emergency
Better you should pray to God
The Father and the Spirit
Will guide you and protect you from up here

Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?

Swear allegiance to the flag
Whatever flag they offer
Never hint at what you really feel
Teach the children quietly
For some day sons and daughters
Will rise up and fight while we stood still

Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?

Can you hear me running (can you hear me calling you? )
(can you hear me) hear me calling you?
(can you hear me running) hear me running babe?
(can you hear me running) hear me running?
Calling you, calling you
(end)

I'm not trying to scare anyone here.
The point is more that for at least the last 46 years people have been leaving messages in their songs for you to hear, at this time, imo.
So do you want to understand what it is that you've heard?
If so, then "listen to the music playing in your head".
Who told you to do that? Pay attention to the words.
Put it all together. With a little help from your friends.
(Just my opinion, of course.)

[unrepentant]

is all this lyric crunching really helping us prove the replacement of paul??

[byrdsmaniac]

unrepentant said:

is all this lyric crunching really helping us prove the replacement of paul??

Perhaps not, but then does "Be at Leso"?
That's probably where they're kicking up their heels:

"So for all we know the real fab four including JPM are on some private island
kicking up their heels while we SCOOBYDOO kids try to unravel all this??"(Unrepentant)

By the way, I think that's closer to the truth than you think.

Keep up the good work.

[Perplexed]

byrdsmaniac said:

unrepentant said:

is all this lyric crunching really helping us prove the replacement of paul??

Perhaps not, but then does "Be at Leso"?
That's probably where they're kicking up their heels:

"So for all we know the real fab four including JPM are on some private island
kicking up their heels while we SCOOBYDOO kids try to unravel all this??"(Unrepentant)

By the way, I think that's closer to the truth than you think.
Just like the "rock and roll circus" comment was, imo.
Keep up the good work.
I may have more to say later.

Well, OK I predict, from my well of precogniscence, thata brand new poster will come to TKIN, shortly this morning, at exactly 2:13 A.M. Eastern Time,
and give us all a tidbit, a new finding, a shocking new piece of the puzzle to this whole PWR madness. I just sort of feel it for some reason.

They will include a picture. The letter "g" will be somewhere in their screen name, and they will be----female. They will know a little something on the "inside", whatever the heck that is supposed to be, and will describe this tidbit in plain unadulterated English. The words "radical" and "appropriate" will appear somewhere in this 326 word post, divided into 5 paragraphs
and one succinct, leading closing sentence that stands alone, with the
letter "Z" in at least one geographic place name.
They will never post here again and never explain anything else.

They shall live out the remainder of their days in a quiet but lovely village in
an unnamed Canadian province, living off a comfortable trust fund set up by her------Great-Aunt Theresa, who's dead for many years and nobody really liked her but she left a lot of money. This poster drives an Audi and has
carpal-tunnel syndrome, requiring the use of a male assistant to type in the post. His name is Derk and he hates Windows "Excel." He drives
a old SUV and speaks in a heavy mid plains accent like the people in Fargo.

That's all/ The crystal ball is growing dar, very dark you see. The time is coming









*gasp*

[Perplexed]

Oops. Maybe I got the day wrong.

[byrdsmaniac]

Sounds like your radar could use a tune-up, Perplexed. ;D
I'll say more when time permits.

[Perplexed]

byrdsmaniac said:

Sounds like your radar could use a tune-up, Perplexed. ;D
I'll say more when time permits.

Well, the second paragraph was kidding, but the first part I believed.
I felt that someone was truly going to write in something between 2 and 3 last night, something interesting, a one-time thing.
It didn't happen; I am clearly not sensing doodly-squat. Embarrassing yes. I will keep it to myself from here on out.

[byrdsmaniac]

Well, having considered your comments, Perplexed and Unrepentant, for most of the day while I was at work, I
will try to give you a sense of the way I'm thinking right now.
I was in the Phillipines when Ferdinand Marcos declared martial law back in 1972. Overnight half of the radio stations on the dial were off the air, and the ones that remained featured endless babbling about the need for order, security, and 'discipline'. (I have to admit, some of it was rather inspiring at first, but after a while.... ) What little music that was aired was orchestral snips like what you hear between the news items on NPR's "All Things Considered" program, or marching music.
It was definitely a situation where "the music (had) died." If you were fortunate enough to have a song in your head, that was a plus, especially if you had no access to a cassette tape player, or stereo, etc.
If a state of martial law were to be declared here in the U.S. or England, it could be a similar situation, where even if you were at home, you wouldn't be feeling jubilant enough to play your stereo, or maybe you wouldn't even be allowed to for some dumb reason.
Of course there are other possibilities that could be even worse.
What I am noticing now, and maybe it's just me, is that
a lot of the songs that had words that sounded like gibberish when they came out when I was growing up, and while living my life, are suddenly sounding like they're sensible (making sense). And that, strange as it may be, the key to understanding what is being said (for me) is listening to the lyrics from the perspective of the PID mystery and my understanding of the Christian religion. So it's almost as if the songs were like those "time released" cold pills. It seems they were carefully placed to be in the consciousness of my generation so that at some point, (apparently now) they would sound like
what they apparently were: a message to be understood at this time.
Now I know that this sounds a little crazy, but it may not be, considering that one of the things that they did at Montauk, besides messing up time, was that they attempted to incorporate thoughts into recordings. Well known, widely released recordings, not some small-scale rinky-dink effort. So....maybe it worked.
But there's more than that going on, imo.
So when I printed the lyrics to "Silent Running" for example, and the words go:

"Can you hear me running (can you hear me calling you? )
(can you hear me) hear me calling you?
(can you hear me running) hear me running babe?
(can you hear me running) hear me running?
Calling you, calling you."

they suddenly sound like a current-text message to me,
even though that song has been stored in my memory banks for years, and ordinarily my reaction would be:
"Ah, 1985! Yas, those were the days. I remember it well. (etc. etc. etc.)"
"So," you complain, "You have to burden US with all your inner realizations?! What does this have to do with PID?"
I can especially understand that being the case if this song isn't stored in your memory, because you're 25 years old and you listen to Eminem and Ashlee Simpson, or 50 Cent.
SO...what i'm trying to say is: Somebody(s) are trying to get your attention right about now, if my experience is any indication, and they will use whatever you relate to, and have stored in your mental music/video library to make it sensible to you. And most anything else that will get your attention. And those "somebodies" are what's considered "angellic", and represented by the
the people we knew/know as rock stars! But the point isn't for you to bring out the ouija board. That would be a mistake.
More like Luke Sky Walker's remembering being told to "Use the Force!" in the movie Star Wars.
Now to me, that is what the PID mystery is about, and
clearly all the big rock bands of the time of the Beatles were in on it, whether they were consciously aware of it at the time, or not! So when I see something that looks like a piece of the puzzle fitting together, I get as excited as a kid at Christmas.
But for others who come to this site, they're interested in finding Paul's grave site, or proving to the world that Faul is a fraud, or whatever. That's OK, but it's not what matters to me. I think that BeatlePaul was right when he said that Paul's body was sent into space, so even if there's a grave somewhere (and apparently there is), it's probably empty right now.
You can send for the paramedics now, if you wish.
I'll be joining Syd and Paul on the dark side of the moon,
but remember this: "Meet me at the back of the blue bus."
It's the "Magic Bus".
The Magical Mystery Bus.
The "We're All Bozo's On the" Bus.
Yes, "Come Away with Me" on a bus.
Did I mention A BUS?
Or "Take the 'A' Train" ;D.
Yes, that may be something you'll want to remember.