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Post by Chris on Jul 28, 2003 16:52:25 GMT
I found a website about songs that The Beatles never recorded. There I found this... Songs Paul finished later Another day, Back seat of my car, Every night, Suicide, Teddy boy I always thought that Another Day sounded like something " Paul " would write. I wonder how Faul got his hands on it  I was trying to research the song " Suicide "... I have an audio mpg. of the Beatles jamming... you can hear them talking, John starts going on about an American Band called " The MutherF*ckers " ( his word, not mine )... You can here Paul say in the background " really ", when John says that ... Then Paul starts singing in his rich deep voice ( almost in the style of Elvis - whom they adored ) a song about Suicide...Right before the mpg. ends, you can hear John ask George Martin, what he thinks of it... Now, I'm killing myself trying to make sure that the person singing this song is Paul, not Faul...There's some organ/piano jamming. In the style of Let it be... I know that this means nothing, because so many songs were composed BEFORE Paul died... However, everything I'm coming up with are articles concerning Paul ( Faul ) McCartney sending Frank Sinatra a song called Suicide, & Sinatra turning it down... Faul spoke about it 5/21 of this year... I can't find out if it was The Beatles jamming with it or the Beatles... Any help I can get with this matter would be GREATLY appreciated... Paul's voice sounds so deep & rich, I'm having a hard time equating that voice with Faul... Also, they all sound like they're having a great time doing it !!! HELP !!!! A very confused  Chris |
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 31, 2005 20:30:52 GMT
Damn! Looks like chris is long gone, but if anyone knows where to find that file id love to hear it again coz i had it years ago on my old pc, i also think (if anyone actually cares, or understands WTF im talking about  ) that Paul wasn't singing in the style of elvis but copying an Englebert Humperdink song coz before he starts John says his name! |
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Post by peoplescommittee on Mar 31, 2005 21:28:01 GMT
"Suicide" is on the McCartney album, if anyone wants to hear it. It's part of the long medley, after "Glasses."
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 31, 2005 22:07:14 GMT
James Paul wrote that one, but that's faux-PAUL on the bootleg. There's also a bootleg of faux-PAUL's demo for Sinatra out there.
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Post by abbey on Apr 1, 2005 17:28:01 GMT
T.I. I don't think it's Bill on the bootleg.
I also have that song. I agree with everything that Chris said. Also, you can hear a small child talking. I believe that child was Julian. The child in the bootleg sounds to be about 2-3 years old. Julian was born April 8th 1963. That would place the recording of that material at sometime in 1965-1966.
It can't be Heather. She was too old when Bill married her mom, to be the child in the recording. You can hear the child say "daddy".
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Post by TotalInformation on Apr 1, 2005 17:33:07 GMT
26 Jan 1969
get back sessions
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Post by abbey on Apr 1, 2005 18:23:05 GMT
Then they're lying. It's definitely Julian on the recording & he doesn't sound any older than 3 years old. There's no way it's Bill singing that. It sounds like James Paul. His voice is like velvet. I don't know why they would lie about that. Maybe because Bill wanted to use that song & wanted to take credit for every version of it ? I honestly have no explanation for what they did. Has anyone else heard this bootleg? Does anyone else believe that it's James Paul |
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Post by beatled on Apr 1, 2005 21:22:09 GMT
JMO, but I hear the "Lady Madonna" voice here.
http://*banned link*/Shoebox/Suicide.mp3
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Post by Dr.No on Apr 2, 2005 0:05:56 GMT
it makes me think of a mix between "Lady Madonaa" and "Besame Mucho"
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Apr 19, 2005 10:58:03 GMT
Is it true that the Lady Madonna/You Never Give Me Your Money voice is just the imitator singing normally, or something like that?
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Post by TPIMaster on Apr 19, 2005 17:13:23 GMT
People call the voice from Lady Madonna "Paul's Other Voice"... If it was his other voice, how come we never heard of it until Lady Madonna? I imitate a lot of voices, and when I do that, I really enjoy it and I want people to hear it. And then all the sudden, we hear a few songs with that voice... Also note that Faul's voice changed a lot. You should listen to him now... Doesn't sound a thing like it used to. His accent changes too. At "The Making Of Sgt. Pepper" (1992), he calls bears "burrs" and stuff. And on some live cd's, he has a scottish kind of accent...
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Post by Jilli on Apr 20, 2005 2:24:07 GMT
found this on this web page: www.maccafan.net/Vaultquiz/SecretVault/secretVault.htmSuicide (McCartney) Suicide is one of Paul's earliest compositions. A first studio take was taped during the Get Back rehearsals in January 1969. Another studio version was recorded in January 1970 for the "McCartney " album, but only a few seconds of the song finally surfaced on this album. Another version was recorded for the "One Hand Clapping" video. A last version was taped as a demo in 1974 and given to Frank Sinatra who never recorded the song. Length: 3'46 there is a demo on that web page as well. |
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Post by plastic paul on Apr 20, 2005 3:20:38 GMT
My mums family is liverpool based, i have many relatives that you could refer to as scouse so i know that there are variable scouse accents. Some people say the word bear "bare" some almost like "beer/bier" some go "burr", it's not really a phenomena typical to the scots.
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Post by cavendish on Apr 20, 2005 13:52:33 GMT
I've listened to that recording. John is being his normal obnoxious self. Paul's response ? REALLY  Then he just tunes John out completely & starts singing the song. John joins in singing with Paul, because he didn't want to give it up yet ! I honestly don't believe that Faul would've responded that way. He wanted nothing more than to fit in. He would've joined right in with John's zaniness, even if it was just to ONE UP JOHN ! John was most likely doing that to get Paul's goat. He seemed to really enjoy teasing Paul ! Paul sings that song so effortlessly. I have yet to hear Faul sing that way. Paul sounded completely confident in what he was doing, even though John was heckling him throughout. You can hear the warmth in his voice. He was obviously in a happy place when he sang that day. In fact, the warmth in his voice is the same as when he sang the demo for Yesterday where he blew the lyrics. You can hear the same gentle chuckle. |
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Post by TheDZ on Apr 20, 2005 15:16:25 GMT
Thanks for the file JoJo, always good to have the piece in question.  Speaking of Lady Madonna, Have you heard the Off White album? Remember, recording studio trickery was heavily used to blur out Paul and blur in Bill and Denny. Tape speed adjusment is a big factor, Equalization is the other. Suicide seems like Bill to me, perhaps messed with. Lady Madonna seems like Bill at a 7% speed drop. Off White version compared to Beatles Again. Bill's natural voice seems higher and with more vibrato than JPM. A speed drop and eq brings his voice closer to Pauls. Multi tracking also helps to complete the illusion... JMO |
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Post by abbey on Apr 20, 2005 19:58:10 GMT
I agree with Cavendish "Suicide" is song by Paul. I have a copy of the song, too. It is most definitely Paul. You can hear the softness in his voice that Bill couldn't have. Plus, Bill would be trying to "fit in" at that point and Paul DID already fit in since he WAS a Beatle....he and Johnny always bugged each other. It was part of their routine. Remember Paul and John were as close as can be, man.
If you listen to the song, it is about a woman who sacrafices her being to do everything the man wants.....she is commiting emotional suicide.....it is not about physical suicide.
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Post by plastic paul on Apr 21, 2005 0:55:14 GMT
I agree, SMA, although i haven't heard it in ages, i remember it being a high, soft JPM voice, not a falsetto, rough faul voice. What you have said about the song reminds me of the sylvie aspect, were you thinking that SMA? IF not then it is a great example of what this forum is all about, intentionally or otherwise passing the baton of evidence/truth to someone who can make sense of it |
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Post by TheDZ on Apr 21, 2005 2:01:30 GMT
Quoting TKIN 'The game was initially liked by John but as time went by the memory of Paul replaced his idea to not let the Beatles die or allow those who had killed Brian and Paul to win. ' You Know My Name ( Look Up the Number ) comes to mind... Have a listen. Seems like the guy who sings Suicide to me and it's a similar mood, pace etc. BTW I think Suicide is pitch shifted down a bit. Again JMO |
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Post by faul ramone on Jul 14, 2005 1:33:39 GMT
sister you have a recording from 1969 that sounds like paul so it cant be billand it cant be from 1969...who says ? you cause then it doesn't fit your theory..
jan 1969...is the date of that tape....many bootlegs of that track have floated around for years..
its also on an unrealeased film froom 1974 called one hand clapping.....same vocal style same sounding voice? how'd they do that? sister!!!!!
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Post by abbey on Jul 15, 2005 3:21:38 GMT
It was most definitely Paul. His song was about a girl "killing her feelings and wants to do everything her man wants".
No matter the date, it is Paul. Bill re-writes and re-arranges everything to say it it his.
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Post by peoplescommittee on Jul 16, 2005 22:46:44 GMT
It sounds very much like Paul.
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) that Paul wasn't singing in the style of elvis but copying an Englebert Humperdink song coz before he starts John says his name!
