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Post by pennylane on Jul 29, 2003 2:03:04 GMT
I'm having a problem...I know Chris will be able to relate to this with me... I dug out my Wingspan CD and began listening to it for the first time since I joined 60IF. I don't know why but I was desperately trying to find Paul in the music, hoping against hope that maybe we were all wrong and while listening, it became so apparent that the voice is completely different. It seems that as he got older he didn't even try to hide his real voice. The most obvious thing I noticed is that there is not one high note on the whole CD..
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Post by Chris on Jul 29, 2003 13:02:45 GMT
Their voices are totally different from one another. The thing is, we've been watching & listening to Faul for the past almost 37 years. It took me awhile to see him or hear him as anything OTHER THEN Paul McCartney... We were duped & then programmed to see him as Paul... Poor James Paul... They're trying to erase his very existence from history... We can't allow this to happen !!!! Love to all... Chris
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Post by Uberkinder on Jul 29, 2003 18:39:27 GMT
I didn't even really know what Paul looked like until I was maybe 17 years old. Everything I saw growing up was all about Faul and the Beatles after '66. I guess the Baby Boomers assumed everyone else cared how much the late 60's ment to them, because all I ever heard about from tv was how 1967 was the most important year in the history of the world!
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Post by PaulBearer on Jul 29, 2003 18:42:13 GMT
1967 was when the world really began to loose it's innocence. It it mainly appears to be pivotted around the deception of the Sgt. Pepper album.
Amazing how one apparently unimportant deception (at first) affected the world so much.
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Post by Chris on Jul 29, 2003 19:04:21 GMT
Maybe that deception is alot more insidious then the death of those two men ? Chris
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Post by pennylane on Jul 29, 2003 19:08:50 GMT
i don't know about 1967 being the best year... it wasn't for me i wasn't born yet...
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Post by Eggman on Jul 29, 2003 19:20:46 GMT
I'm having a problem...I know Chris will be able to relate to this with me... I dug out my Wingspan CD and began listening to it for the first time since I joined 60IF. I don't know why but I was desperately trying to find Paul in the music, hoping against hope that maybe we were all wrong and while listening, it became so apparent that the voice is completely different. It seems that as he got older he didn't even try to hide his real voice. The most obvious thing I noticed is that there is not one high note on the whole CD.. The same happened to me since I joined the 60IF forum. Since two month I can't hear any song with Faul's voice. Creepy!!!
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Post by Rojopa on Jul 30, 2003 3:26:04 GMT
Yep! The same happened to me too. Can't get over the fact the Faul is who he is. I don't feel the same about his music anymore. How dare he continue to decieve those that believed in him as Paul!
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Post by Chris on Jul 30, 2003 10:25:43 GMT
It's beyond being a deception, folks !!! He has taken credit for everything James Paul wrote & performed... EVERYTHING... He took Another Day, finished it, & made it his. He took Suicide & tried to sell it to Frank Sinatra. I have a bootleg MPG of James Paul singing it. That's one song I'm sorry he never made... What a voice... What a shame Love to all... Chris - BTW - How Does He Sleep !!!
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Post by khh1750 on Jul 30, 2003 12:45:07 GMT
I just joined here, but have been reading the site for the last couple of weeks. Being a young kid who worshiped the Beatles in the 60's - I am having a real hard time enjoying the music now. Everytime I hear a song, see a picture - it's go me thinking. We were all fooled? What is the truth?
My inital thoughts - they will never tell us the truth and adimit what they have done. I could sell the lawyers jumping all over this with lawsuits!!
Kevin
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Post by Uberkinder on Jul 30, 2003 12:53:54 GMT
But don't you see, if someone as big as Faul filed a libel suit against a tiny little "Paul Is Dead" site, this would be in headlines all over the world! Faul might have th power to make the COURT bend his way, though the evidence is legally conclusive, he doe not have this same power over the PUBLIC!
The only reason our numbers are so small is because it's so hard to get people to actually LOOK at the evidence before they dismiss it, but if Faul were in court over it this supposedly libelous evidence, then EVERYBODY would want to see the it!
However, just in the off-chance he'd be so bold, I included a legal disclaimer on my website stating that the case is not yet proven true in a court of law. If at some point in the future we have enough evidence that there is absolutely no way around it (from a lawyer's standpoint, I mean, not from a sane person's) Then I'd consider actually suing Faul for commercial fraud for advertising himself as Paul McCartney.
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Post by Chris on Jul 30, 2003 12:57:18 GMT
Kevin, we all understand that. However, the truth will come out. Look I can only speak for myself. The way I see it is that he has to come clean. Even if he only takes credit for the work he did with the Beatles from Sgt. Pepper onwards, & his solo career, he's still going to be a VERY weathy man. All I want is for him to give James Paul his due. How DARE he take credit for work that HE never did. I'm sure that if James Paul could speak, he would tell you that he finds it insulting & demeaning !!! What GAUL !!!! He might look like him, but he's NOT him !!!! Lawsuits be damned !!! I'm sure with all of his remaining money he could find an amicable way to get out of the whole mess & still have plenty of money for himself & his family to continue to be VERY, VERY rich !!! It's not a matter of money, it's a matter of PRIDE... He's too proud to admit that he's not the TRUE Paul McCartney !!! WHAT A SCHMUCK !!! Enuf said... Love to all... Chris
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Post by khh1750 on Jul 30, 2003 13:59:58 GMT
"But don't you see, if someone as big as Faul filed a libel suit against a tiny little "Paul Is Dead" site, this would be in headlines all over the world! Faul might have th power to make the COURT bend his way, though the evidence is legally conclusive, he doe not have this same power over the PUBLIC"
I agree - This is the last thing anyone including Faul would want. Without a doubt, they would like to keep this as quiet as possible.
I was thinking once this becomes public knowlege, consumers would start filing suit against Faul. I like most people thought I was buying an album with Paul McCarty- not some one else. We have been duped for many years.
Kevin
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Post by Rojopa on Jul 30, 2003 16:10:26 GMT
I sure would have my name on that lawsuit! One of the national papers (Star or Inquire) ran a story back in the early 80's concerning this topic. They said that Paul died and was replaced. Had photos. Read it once but didn't give it much thought...until now.
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Post by xpt626 on Jul 30, 2003 16:37:23 GMT
One of the national papers (Star or Inquire) ran a story back in the early 80's concerning this topic. They said that Paul died and was replaced. Had photos. Very interesting...those papers had reputations as "rag magazines" for many years, but lately they've been known to break "real" news and info. Would love to see that article....
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Post by Chris on Jul 30, 2003 17:57:30 GMT
Kevin - that's exactly what I was talking about. We're both on the same page, just two different perspectives. What has to be understood is that Faul was asked to do this by John. He was given a job to do, to help The Beatles. I'm sure he must've been a Beatles fan, so to him, it was too big an opportunity to pass up... This situation has a dark side to it. People have died because of it. All he'd have to say was that he wanted to come clean years ago, but was threatened. He feared for his life & that of his family, so he stuck it out... I know I wouldn't want to sue him, since I know that at least to some extent, what I just wrote is true... However, I think that if it would go public ( like we're attempting to do ), he should come clean. Once it's fully out of the shadows & in the public eye, I don't think anyone would hurt him or his family... Under those circumstances, I feel he should give James Paul back his name !!!! Just my opinion, of course... Love to all... Chris
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Post by Eggman on Jul 30, 2003 18:04:28 GMT
I said it in the old forum and I say here: FAUL IS JUST A PUPPET IN ALL THIS CONSPIRACY; HE CAN'T DECIDE ANYTHING FOR HIMSELF!!!
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Post by Chris on Jul 30, 2003 18:26:55 GMT
So would I... Chris
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Post by Uberkinder on Jul 30, 2003 20:46:24 GMT
You know, that might not be a terrible idea. The Enquirer and such may not have the greatest reputations, but at least they might actually give the story a chance, if only for the entertainment value.
As long as they got people directed to the website to see the undoctored evidence for themselves this would be a help. But then, I'm still concerned about the reputation magazines like this have. What do you guys think?
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Post by Chris on Jul 30, 2003 23:30:04 GMT
There's an old saying in Hollywood, there's no such thing as bad publicity ... Go for it !!! We have NOTHING to lose !!! What's the worst thing that could happen Faul will refute it... SO WHAT !!!! Millions of people read those papers EVERY WEEK !!! It'll have our website address in the article, right. If you do it, expect problems with the server afterwards. Once he sees that we mean business, he's gonna try to put us OUTTA business... That Bastard... Love to all... Chris - BTW - after watching the Real Love video ( for the 1st or second time ) , I have to say that they all seemed to have an amicable relationship ( at least at that time ). It seemed to me that George & Ringo had/have a genuine affection for Faul/ Billy... I guess after so many years, you get used to a person... BUT - this still doesn't change the fact that I for one will never forgive him for stealing Paul's work. Stuff that Paul worked on, sweated over to write, Faul took credit for. It's just so unfair !!!
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Post by xpt626 on Jul 31, 2003 1:03:56 GMT
..... I'm still concerned about the reputation magazines like this have. What do you guys think? the last few years they are being taken more seriously...the Enquirer has actually broken legitimate news. If they would do a story, I think it could only help. JMO.
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Post by Forum Manager on Aug 1, 2003 1:00:43 GMT
yeah, i think we should go for it!
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Post by PaulBearer on Aug 1, 2003 4:30:42 GMT
Well, I posted something on the World Weekly News forum. There was no response for weeks and then I suddenly got flamed.
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Post by Chris on Aug 1, 2003 11:31:46 GMT
Eggman - it's funny that you should say that Faul is just a puppet. I told my dad more about Faul & the conspiracy & he said the same thing. mY dad said, do you think that Faul gets all the money he makes He's just a cog in the corporate machine. He's a flunkie !!! I wonder if that could be true. That he's just the paid help & someone else gets most of his earnings Curious as always.... Chris
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Post by Chris on Aug 1, 2003 11:33:48 GMT
Paul - that's too bad.... It probably was someone who's mind was very close minded. He wouldn't even click on the link & check it out for himself !!! Love to all... Chris
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