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Post by Eggman on Aug 1, 2003 14:35:39 GMT
Cheers for Chris dady!!!! ;D ;D I think that maybe Faul is not so arrogant as we thought , maybe he was forced to go on. Lot of money in this fu*king game!!! Like dady said
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Post by PaulBearer on Aug 1, 2003 14:42:20 GMT
Well, as we've noted before, the "Band on the Run" lyrics indicate that he his trapped but really it was a trap of his own making. When he wanted to keep playing as Paul, it only hit him later what he'd done and that he indeed would have to carry that weight a long time. I suspect some of the others involved like George Martin also actually feel trapped and feel they have no choice, that they didn't really want to besmirch the name of Paul.
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Post by Chris on Aug 1, 2003 15:36:59 GMT
Bismirch the name of PAUL !!! Don't you remember that photo posted in the last Forum. Faul in that dance number in a pink tuxedo wearing gold sparkley platform shoes, & a gold sparkly bow tie... I mean - EEEEEWWWWW !!!!! As I said before, if Paul wasn't dead at that time, he would've died of embarrassment. That this jackass is running around in that get-up using HIS name !!!! GAWD !!!! Chris ;D
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Post by PaulBearer on Aug 1, 2003 15:41:45 GMT
Perhaps Faul's in two minds about it.
Sometimes he feels trapped, he can never go back to being Billy.
Other times he enjoys the fantasy.
Is he double-minded? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Chris on Aug 1, 2003 16:34:28 GMT
Well, Paul was a gemini. My best friend is a gemini. We've been best friends since we were 17 years old. We're both now 44. He has driven me to distraction MANY times. However, gemini men are the most charming individuals. I wouldn't be surprised if Billy is a Pisces like me. We're two fish crisscrossing each other, swimming in opposite directions. A constant tug-of war going on inside... Love to all... Chris
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Post by pennylane on Aug 1, 2003 17:34:17 GMT
oh Chris Honey... it is so weird that you said that. My former best friend is a gemini and i'm a pisces.. it was a constant battle between us and i never knew why... man what an eye opener....
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Post by Chris on Aug 1, 2003 17:47:28 GMT
;D Ahhhh, a fellow Piscean. No wonder we get along so well ;D I just sent you a personal message. Heads up !!! Yeah, I love him to death, but he has driven me insane many times over the years. Makes me wonder how I would've gotten along with Paul had I known him. Ahhh, who am I kidding. I would've loved him to death. I tried to get my best friend to go out with me for years. We've always gotten along REALLY well... The problem was that after I fell in love with him, he decided he was gay !!! Talk about trauma... I'm still getting over it ;D Just unlucky in love, I guess... Gotta go, hon... Take care.... Chris
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Post by pennylane on Aug 1, 2003 17:49:16 GMT
wow you and i have so much in common.. its scary....
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Post by Eggman on Aug 1, 2003 18:30:53 GMT
;D Ahhhh, a fellow Piscean. No wonder we get along so well ;D I just sent you a personal message. Heads up !!! Yeah, I love him to death, but he has driven me insane many times over the years. Makes me wonder how I would've gotten along with Paul had I known him. Ahhh, who am I kidding. I would've loved him to death. I tried to get my best friend to go out with me for years. We've always gotten along REALLY well... The problem was that after I fell in love with him, he decided he was gay !!! Talk about trauma... I'm still getting over it ;D Just unlucky in love, I guess... Gotta go, hon... Take care.... Chris WOW!!!!
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Post by Forum Manager on Aug 3, 2003 20:43:23 GMT
Krysia is gemini and cancer (her b-day falls in between) i'm a libra
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Post by Eggman on Aug 3, 2003 21:27:26 GMT
Hey!!! You are with 2 girls at the same time!!! What a lucky guy!!! ;D ;D
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Post by krysia on Aug 3, 2003 21:34:22 GMT
lol, hes not with 2 girls, my bday is just right inbetween. June 21st to be exact. (yay! 16!!!!!!) some horoscopes concider me a gemini and some a cancer.
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Post by Eggman on Aug 3, 2003 21:42:46 GMT
This was just one of my stupid jokes
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Post by krysia on Aug 3, 2003 21:49:54 GMT
oh, its not a stupid joke. im just out of it right now.
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Post by LUCY on Aug 5, 2003 16:38:54 GMT
ok this is far out.........but..... basically it was a litmus test to test us. maybe oj too. we know they like to play with the financial and energy and human markets to test teir limits. what about that story last week w/ the woman posing as the lost child? her basic story was saying shee just wanted to help the family. could it be the groundwork to desencitize us when this comes out?
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Post by Forum Manager on Aug 8, 2003 18:58:53 GMT
hehe, 2 girls! funny joke eggy! ;D
im not sure what youre talking about, LUCY
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Post by TheWatusi on Aug 13, 2003 10:23:52 GMT
first of all, can we not talk about horoscopes? ;D lets stay on topic. secondly, stay away from the weekly world news. the enquirer is a Lot more respectable magazine. i have a subscription to the WWN as a joke. infact, i got an issue today. the cover said that saddams weapons of mass destructions are trained killer dinosaurs....enough said. and i do think that faul is really stuck and double-minded on the matter. i mean, "being" paul would have its ups, as well as its downs. for instance, im sure hes gotten a lot more fans as paul. as well as hes lost a lot more friends, when he lost his name and face and looks and personality and attmepted to lose his voice, but one thing is for certain that he did lose--his identity.
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Post by SunKing on Aug 13, 2003 10:41:21 GMT
... but one thing is for certain that he did lose--his identity. Yes, you are so right He is no more Bill, he is Faul, just a "false Paul"!
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Post by Chris on Aug 13, 2003 14:49:19 GMT
Yes, that's very true my king. He's Faul. The Imposter. The Jealous guy... Love you.... Chris ;D
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Post by Beatlestobattle on Aug 19, 2003 2:26:49 GMT
Nope. He's just a person who has played guitar since his childhood days and has entertained people since 1957 named Sir James Paul McCartney.
I went to a music professor and asked him to match Paul's post-Beatles writing and during-Beatles writing to see if the musical style changed. He checked the scores and replied, "Not a bit."
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Post by Uberkinder on Aug 19, 2003 4:31:36 GMT
So you're telling me that he had such an understanding of Paul's personal style that he had enough knowledge to DUPLICATE IT HIMSELF! If he can tell you that the styles are the same, then it is not too complicated for a proffessional songwriter to write songs in the McCartney style. Listen to Klaatu, they also match Paul's style very well.
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 7, 2003 12:35:47 GMT
It seems like if these things are true, then these people have made lifetime agreements to never ever say or affirm these things. A job offer might have been made, one that came with certain proposed rational agreements to remain fixedly consistant and true to the purpose. It isn't probable then,that it was a case of desiring to continue deceiving. Those who perhaps have above average facial recognition and certian kinds of perception can't be fooled. If this is true, the participants are well aware of this. If they have pulled this type of thing off for this long, then they are aware of all the ramifications. Powerful folks don't undertake anything haphazardly. They would have had to have known that a certain percentage would catch on and bolt. But there is nothing to bolt about. We can't complain when show business is an illusion!!! How can we? Every movie is an illusion. We may love the star, in our heads, but the presentation is an illusion. We don't become offended at Richard Burton playing King Arthur! And many people now believe that there was a King Arthur. When a man does his very best to play a movie role in a film, even resorting to extreme means of portraying a role (see Robert DeNiro in A Raging Bull)like gaining or losing weight, cosmetic alterations of all types, then we usually commend him for his efforts: good reviews, high praise, an Oscar or two.. ....At least a nomination. I think in this case, reengineering an ectomorphic bracheophalic man into a mesomorphic dodecaphalic (I know that is hideously mispelled) man 8 years his junior (not to mention brain-side dominance issues and height) at a time when these sciences of plastic surgery etc, were more primitive took determination, unending dedication, and hours of coaching, drilling, and employing the same doggedness we ALL resort to to get thru our muddled lives! Talk about stage fright. But it was his job! This is his job, Paul or Faul, I truly know not which. I can't tell which pictures were released when.( Let's face it: we can all manipulate pictures and photographs now. Like an ironic episode of the twilight zone, I can just hear a posthumous Rod Serling musing in his dark prosaic ways, as a field of black and white stars sweep across the closing scenes..................) If we fixate on one man so hard, and turn darkly accusatory---will we become dark and evil ourselves? The ultimate Judge of all mankind's deeds stands waiting on the otherside of this strange existance we call life. It will all be hashed out. How could it be otherwise? There must be a record of it all! But,can we know another man's private regrets and sorrows? And if we deign to throw off the works of another man that we have come to suspect, how many lives could be shattered or upset? None of us are really suited to be the judge. That which isn't rewarded or punished on earth will have a day to answer later. None of us are perfect. This man could have had nothing to do with the passing away of another......if true the passing of a fair friend, if our conscience so instructs us, as mine heart is telling me it must be true-------then we should greive. We should grieve heartily. And for a man that really none of us knew personally, yet for some strange reason have recently come to have a "sense" of. And it seems that everyone who gets to this place loved him. I don't mean amorously-I mean like admiration---for the melodies and words, the performances, the energy, the beautiful chord progressions, the driving bass lines, the catchy hooks, the smiles, the innocence, the picture of the youth we all wish we had been.I just lost my sister to bowel cancer. My mom had an ileostomy. So I know first hand about these medical problems. I am sorry for my sis and mom's suffering, and I am sorry if Paul suffered likewise. I really don't think there was foul play. If there was, God has it written in his book. I know that many here have a zeal to unlock and uncover so many things------ my feeling is that maybe it is best not to. It could be that Paul got sick and died prematurely from this IBS, or Crohn's---and these conditions are potentially lethal if not well attended. Maybe they all knew it was coming.......so you see, if that is true, then this was done with the blessing of all parties legally involved. As far as a possible kidnapping-----yes this thought is disturbing and makes me very sad. If there are more grisly elements to this, I am sad. I don't know how to comment on it, because none of us really can know these things. If there are far reaching high level intrigues, we really can not know. Your site has convinced me that he is gone, and when it sunk in earlier today, I cried bitterly for a little while. So, we are given another gentlemen that has, for my view, done everything possible to fulfill a job obligation. I am sure he entered the Canadian police with high hopes and sincere aspirations. I think he has some very nice recordings, and he has given 100% in his effeorts to be a, as was said, " a cogent replacement." It seems mean spirited and unfair (to me at least) to say so much about his natural features and looks, at this point. He has a mirror. His doctors have a mirror. He has undoubtably heard hours of explanations about cranial measurements and muscle contractions and nerve of the face and nostril bias and lip thickness and skin tone and coloring and on and on.........It is true that you can't crush the skull together and make the eyes closer etc.....where would the brain and a the important pineal gland and stuff go??So we see that within all practical limitations governed by available technique, everything must have been done to create the perfect effect. He is more aware of the little differences than any of us are, after all, he sees them every morning in the mirror! And, in fact, frankly, in great measure, it has worked. Some angles are very convincing. At what point in all this could they have just stopped and let it all go? I think those who privately discover these things, will continue privately realizing them. Some people will never be able to see it. I recognised a woman I haven't seen in 23 years last winter. She said "You won't remember me..." I said "You are so and so!" We were both shocked. A good male friend of mine has trouble at every class reunion. Nobody looks right to him!!!! So, you see, some can never hear the fine differences, or hear the subtle changes. Paul McCartney in the 70 s and 80s had an apparent vocal range of C in the middle of the bass clef (and straining to get down to that not so low note) to high tenor C. In the 60's the rfange seems to have been about a major third or fourth lower. I should have realized from this. Also, Paul in the early 60's went falsetto above G or so, although young Paul pumped out clean quick high "A"s on "We Can Work it Out", in fact the word "WE"in that song was a tenor high "A", albeit for a sixteenth note. But of late Paul is able to sustain G and A and Bb and higher for several beats at will sometimes. The voice I heard in the 60's, based on all the accompanying I have done at the piano since 1975-----I would never have asked that kind of voice back then to tackle that high of a tessitura. Never. Also, when Paul sang in the 60's, the hard "K' sound on a high note had a certain sibilance to it, like a mild lateral lisp. "We ckchan work it out". However, on the newer recordings I haven't noticed it yet-although it may be there.
Anyway, I close this rambling rant by acknowledging that I won't be liked for saying this: but, I think Mr. McCartney should be left alone. I am not criticizing anyone's research, or loyalty, or sense of indignation. And this information is valuable for those that can handle it. But a person this commited to running the race is most likely going to run to the finish line.
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