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Post by mrkatio on Aug 14, 2003 11:57:04 GMT
To be Faul, I mean. I mean, imagine if you will, being approached and asked if you will give up your entire life, go through one grusome surgery after another, and take over the life of a pop idol whom EVERYONE- even deaf blind retarded monkeys- knows. I'm sure the money you'd be rakin' in would be a little comfort...but it couldn't be much. 'specially since if you go ahead with it, it's basically impossible to turn back. You wouldn't be able to just suddenly say "I'm not so and so! I'm really (insert your name here)! This has been a giant hoax and now I'm going home."
Gah, just doing some of my random thinking. Don't mind me.
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Post by Eggman on Aug 14, 2003 12:16:46 GMT
I think, be Faul is better than be a policeman all your life  |
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Post by pennylane on Aug 14, 2003 12:22:16 GMT
i have to disagree, i think that in the beginning it probably sounded exciting but think about what he had to give up.... every thing and everyone he ever knew or loved, never being able to go back to his old life, spending 30 some years lying to himself, his kids and the general public. not a life i would want for any amount of money
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Post by Eggman on Aug 14, 2003 12:25:37 GMT
Faul surely knew how was the rules of this game. He made a choice. And there's no come back in this game |
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Post by mrkatio on Aug 14, 2003 12:32:27 GMT
Sure, you can KNOW what's ahead of you...but the glittering promise of fame can lure a weak man from the things he'll later regret leaving behind. It can be a very blinding thing, fame.
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Post by Eggman on Aug 14, 2003 12:43:49 GMT
In this aspect I'm agree |
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Post by Renee on Aug 14, 2003 20:23:00 GMT
If it's true it's certainly ghastly, isn't it?
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Post by PaulBearer on Aug 15, 2003 11:42:05 GMT
Keep in mind, originally it was supposed to be a temporary thing until all of Paul's unreleased work was recorded, so he wasn't choosing to give up his whole life at first; he was on a (police?) assignment which might last 3 to 4 years. But the role went to Billy's head, triggered by the success of Sgt. Pepper, and he broke the original agreement, chose to keep on playing Paul, and to the remaining Beatles dismay, the intelligence supported him. If it has been originally planned as a long-term thing, I doubt if they would have picked someone who was ten years older than Paul. As it was, after going solo, once the buzz had worn off, I think he did realise he'd walked into a trap.
Stuck inside these four walls
Sent inside forever
Never seeing noone nice again
Like you, mama, you, mama, you...
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Post by PaulBearer on Aug 15, 2003 11:57:50 GMT
That's exactly what was supposed to happen! But the Beatles were betrayed! If only Faul hadn't got a big head, maybe it would've been disclosed but now there have been too many deaths, there would be too many questions.
That's really the main reason that John was so peeved with Faul.
Revisit the lyrics to How Do You Sleep?
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Post by Chris on Aug 17, 2003 20:02:22 GMT
 It really is awful. I almost feel sorry for Faul. ALMOST I think he got what was coming to him... All we need is LOVE & the TRUTH ... Chris  ;D
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Post by xpt626 on Aug 19, 2003 4:14:54 GMT
people see what they want to see. Kenny Rogers "filled in" on a show in Las Vegas by a Kenny Rogers impersonator. People leaving the show commented that "the guy was good, but he's no Kenny Rogers" -- this was caught on tape by Entertainment Tonight, by the way. That audience "saw" an impersonator because they had been told he was an impersonator. Just like people "see" Paul now, because they have been told it is Paul...even though his eyes are in different places!! |
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Post by Eggman on Aug 19, 2003 4:16:06 GMT
It would be terribly hard...if it were an impersonator. But it isn't, so it's not. Still blinded by the light!!! |
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Post by Uberkinder on Aug 19, 2003 4:20:04 GMT
Are we speaking some foreign language here where the words you just said are actually some incredibly complex explanation as to why the comparisons are inaccurate? If you want to keep insisting it's the same guy your going to have to explain this logically. Eyes and ears moving closer together in real life IS NOT AN OPTION, no matter how strongly you insist it is.
The only options are 1) inadequate angles (several of the "same person" comparisons are from much wider angles than the Paul to Faul ones, and they still match 100% in central features and ear spacing; the angles ARE adequate, why am I wrong?)
Or 2) Lens distortion (the photos have all been checked against several other photos taken with different lenses and from different areas of the lens; there IS NO DISTORTION, why am I wrong?) We have plenty of skeptics on this board, why can't I get any answers to these questions?
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Post by Chris on Aug 19, 2003 14:33:35 GMT
 Ask NICELY  What are we in GRADE SCHOOL Andrew has shown empirically, that the skulls don't match up. ANY forensic scientist will tell you that the orbits of the eyes are affixed in the skull. The eye orbits do not change. About the only way this could happen was if a person was in a life threatening accident & had to have severe facial reconstruction done. The same thing for the ears changing position on the head & the change in ear shape. If something this extreme happened to Paul, he would've been out of commision for a LONG time. People would've found out about it. Even if he TRIED to hide it. Look how everyone knew that he had fallen off of his moped !!! He would've been in hospital for long stays. I can just go on & on. How DARE you come to this site & treat us in such a condescending manner. Who the HELL do you think you are I may not agree with what Beatles to Battle says, but at least he treats others with respect !!! He's right Eggman, he's NOT Beatles to Battle... WHAT A JERK !!!!! Just for your information, I LOVE James Paul McCartney. Not the person who is Paul McCartney now . As far as I'm concerned, he's just a SHADOW of James Paul ( he KNOWS it too !!! ) !!!! Chris
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Post by Imbackinblack on Aug 19, 2003 14:50:51 GMT
Thank you. I love compliments.
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Post by Eggman on Aug 19, 2003 14:57:08 GMT
Just like Renee!!! |
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 19, 2003 18:11:45 GMT
About the only way this could happen was if a person was in a life threatening accident & had to have severe facial reconstruction done.
I bet a comparison of Mark Hamill before and after his accident would match better than Paul and Faul.
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Post by Chris on Aug 19, 2003 18:29:37 GMT
I forgot about Mark Hamill getting in a motorcyle accident. I met him multiple times while he was performing in Amadeus on Broadway in the early 80's... You're probably right. He did look different from the Luke Skywalker from Star Wars... However, his facial structure didn't appear too much different... Very good comparison TotalInfo... All we need is love & THE TRUTH !!! Chris ;D
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Post by Forum Manager on Aug 19, 2003 22:32:38 GMT
actually imbackinblack isnt renee. he actually is beatlestobattle
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Post by Chris on Aug 20, 2003 18:28:05 GMT
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Aug 21, 2003 13:29:19 GMT
I find it very plausible, given human nature, that Faul developed a megalomania complex and decided he would "be" Paul long term. This explains alot, such as 'Faul' becoming overbearing in the studio and on business issues; he had quite an explosive secret to hold over the Beatles' heads to ensure he got his way.
I also can accept readily Faul breaking the "agreement" and to the others' dismay, carrying on as Paul to this very day, an industry mega-tycoon who has shrewdly bought the Copyrights to every song catalog he could get his hands on...save one. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Why the knowing interest and acknowledgement that the real money was in the Copyrights? Because for the amazingly long-term (yet consistently mediocre) solo years, Faul most likely had eager, clever unknown songwriters behind the scenes contributing 'product' for McCartney solo material. This is a very wide-spread, accepted business arrangement in the music industry, and is equally on the down-low, as artists covet the fact that they do not compose their own material.
Faul became the mirror counterpart of Lennon; equally held to the utmost esteem; the king of the world. What common person wouldn't aggressively perpetuate that reality after tasting the riches of the world, not to mention the kudos and attention and outright outpouring of positive emotions from the fans?
Keep in mind that historically, doubles and imposters have been widely used with great success. In every power scheme: political, culteral, religious, musical, et al.
My final analysis is that the Truth will be stranger than any fiction...
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Post by Snoopy on Aug 22, 2003 4:27:58 GMT
Good point Ian, from the posts I've read, it seems most of the people are too focused in on the person in question, and not even giving enough attention to the INTANGIBLES in the widest scope in a sense, where things can be seen much clearer as a big picture that interconnects the whole puzzle. Instead of sorting through the aspects closest to Faul such as album covers, lyrics, photos, and whatnot to find a clue, I would rather put those stuff aside for a minute, and construct a mold from the outside, and then dissect the evidence I could absolutely count as valid, since I am the one who gathered the pieces to put together as what might have transpired the moment after the death of James Paul. To conduct such an extensive investigation on my part, I have to gather as much information as possible not just about Paul, but just about ANYTHING that has to do with the Beatles.
The only daunting task, is that even if I could gather enough evidence to challenge Faul with, after all those years of pretending to be Paul, Faul would be the master of all master disguisers out there, Faul practically has the whole act down to a science at this point, and catching him in the "act" will be virtually impossible, after all, Faul has been living his life as Paul ever since 1966, thus he is in fact "Paul" to some degree, well except for his musical talents that is.
To solve a mystery of this magnitude, it's not a very effective way to search for clues from vague lyrics and album covers, but to delve into REAL LIFE evidence, focused very closely in the year of 1966 as a vantage point to spread out the investigation.
So far, some of the real life things that intrigue me are:
1. Paul being the only Knighted Beatle (If I'm correct on that)
2. Paul had collaborated with Michael Jackson on a music video (did Paul and Mike share the same plastic surgeon?)
3. Political climate & social climate of the early to mid 1960s where presidents are shot dead and extremists are rampant. ANYTHING WAS POSSIBLE at that era.
4. The missing chronological event record of the Beatles in the middle part of 1966, where were each and every Beatle, during that time period?
5. The fact that Beatles stopped touring ever so conveniently after 1966, I just happen to know as a fact that the real money making machine for a music band, is TOURING, and nothing else.
I shall keep searching...
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 22, 2003 4:45:18 GMT
Snoopy - This book looks interesting: Acid Dreams -- The Complete Social History of LSD: The CIA, the Sixties, and Beyond From the annotated table of contents here -- www.levity.com/aciddreams/tripguide.htmlPART TWO: ACID FOR THE MASSES [...] 7. THE CAPITAL OF FOREVER [...] The Great Summer Dropout The Beatles turn on... Sgt. Pepper's Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band... John Lennon in a funk... [...] ------------------------------ Snoopy -- dig back on the "General" board for the thread on EMI, you may find that of interest. |
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Post by Chris on Aug 22, 2003 11:36:15 GMT
;D ;D ;D Very interesting, guys !!! Keep it coming !!! All we need is love & THE TRUTH... Chris
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Post by SunKing on Aug 22, 2003 14:27:06 GMT
2. Paul had collaborated with Michael Jackson on a music video (did Paul and Mike share the same plastic surgeon?) It's NOT a joke. Michael Jackson chronology talks for itself. Michael on plastic surgery starting soon after he met Faul then.... |
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It really is awful. I almost feel sorry for Faul. ALMOST 
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