Faul's Story

[molly]

I'm back from a trip and trying to catch up. (Thanks, Spanky, for your welcome a couple of weeks ago.) I don’t have the brilliance or the time or the intricate Beatle knowledge that you guys have, but I do have one thing to offer. I think the way to approach Faul is to invite him to tell his story! As others have pointed out, vilifying him seems out of place. (We have no way of knowing what kinds of pressures he’s been under, or what we would have done in his situation. He’s a guy doing the best he can, just like the rest of us.) But...what a story! Can you imagine if he could finally tell it? How it started, how it evolved, what his life has been like all these years? Millions of people would be spellbound. All sorts of things would emerge. He’s in his seventies, right? Now’s the time! I like the idea of trying to put him at EASE rather than on the defensive. Do you think this is even possible?

[pennylane]

Welcome back Molly..
I totally agree with you. I think it was dark horse who said a few weeks ago that we don't want to destroy this mans life and we don't see him as an enemy, all we want to do is get the truth out so that we can finally appreciate the genious that was James Paul. I also don't think this would be the end of faul's career. Lets face it regardless of who he really turns out to be, the music he created in the later beatle years , with wings and now on his own whether he wrote them or not are still part of our pop culture. I personally have a great fondness for faul and coinsidently my all time favourite song is one of his..."my love''

We covered in another post what this man must be going through, the decisions we make in haste can come back to haunt us later in life and i truly think he is haunted by it. The right approach is critical.... ;D

[Eggman]

WELCOME AGAIN MOLLY!!! ;D ;D
"My Love" is my favorite Faul song too. Coincidence?

I don't think we could hear from Faul's mouth the true story

[molly]

Thanks, Spanky and Eggman! But why, Eggman, do you think we could never hear the true story from Paul's mouth? Don't you suppose a part of him would LOVE to tell it? Or do you mean that he's in danger? That reminds me--do you know how exactly he was supposed to QUIT being Paul, so long ago?

[SunKing]

Molly said:

I'm back from a trip and trying to catch up. (Thanks, Spanky, for your welcome a couple of weeks ago.) I don’t have the brilliance or the time or the intricate Beatle knowledge that you guys have, but I do have one thing to offer. I think the way to approach Faul is to invite him to tell his story! As others have pointed out, vilifying him seems out of place. (We have no way of knowing what kinds of pressures he’s been under, or what we would have done in his situation. He’s a guy doing the best he can, just like the rest of us.) But...what a story! Can you imagine if he could finally tell it? How it started, how it evolved, what his life has been like all these years? Millions of people would be spellbound. All sorts of things would emerge. He’s in his seventies, right? Now’s the time! I like the idea of trying to put him at EASE rather than on the defensive. Do you think this is even possible?

[glow=red,2,300]I TOTALLY AGREE!!![/glow]

[Eggman]

First of all Paul is dead.
And I say it again: FAUL IS JUST A PUPPET!!!! He decides NOTHING.
Remember, he has a family!!!!! ("Band on the run" lyrics)
Sorry if I disagree, just my thoughts

[Renee]

If Paul really had died, it would've been painfully stupid for THEY to cover up (I'm talking about all the Beatles Personnel involved with such a decision). Honesty, in many cases at least, is the best policy.

[pennylane]

I tend to agree with Molly on this..
we say that we want the truth to come out well remember the old saying about sh$t and honey...

Attacking people verbally or physically is never a good idea, it very rairly works because the other person becomes defensive....

Molly Honey you are a breath of fresh air for us...

[Chris]

;D Molly, Spanky, Sun King, everyone - I totally agree also. I don't care HOW the truth comes out. Just as long as it DOES come out. So that James Paul is given back the credit he deserves for HIS genius !!!

Love to all...

Chris - P.S. Luv yah, Eggy !!! ;D

[Imbackinblack]

Yes, but it would more likely put YOU in jeopardy....with Paul's SECURITY. I should know, I tried to get a pic with him once.

[gracemer]

I'm with Eggman on this one. If his children don't already know, he stands to lose their love and respect. Imagine their chagrin at being publicly exposed as little more than bastards--the children of a fraud and charlatan who stole James Paul's life, reputation and property. Nope, Faul will never never NEVER come clean if for no other reason than that.

Is the damage/destruction of 4 innocent lives really worth forcing a confession out of him?

I figure he has made arrangements for immediate cremation upon his death to keep his secret even then.

[Perplexed]

Well, yes, he gave up his life to be of service to, well, that his hard to say. Perhaps the intelligence people, or a corporation, or the Crown, or some joint connection. The Beatles, and Paul McCartney, were very good for Britain, and the economy.

Some will say, yes but now he is a millionaire, and famous, and powerful and so forth.

True, but he is burdened to the hilt in many ways.

His children shouldn't be viewed by the world an any negative way, regardless of what happens. What did they do wrong, get born?
They aren't bastards, they are chldren of this man and his deceased wife (except the adopted one, is that correct?) His LEGAL name, is no doubt, Paul McCartney. We had best be sure of that. That is New Identity 101. There are 21 people or so with almost my name in my local phone book. (Of course, the 22 of us are void of any celebrityhood!) And 2 it turns out are distant cousins that link back to a common ancestor. Who'd a thunk it? Maybe more but there are plenty of needles in the haystack and I ain't lookin'!

Bill could never have pulled this amazing feat off with out a lotta help from many friends. It isn't just about Paul McCartney, it's about a host of people that apply to that name. They are in his keep, so to speak. And they and he answer to a host of other people. The interconnections of any business arrangement that is so global as his musical endeavors effects so many people.

I would rather the world stand up and say to him, if they were told, Bravo, and well done! The drug issue is really, in comparison to todays' problems, a minor thing. Bill Clinton admitted to using a certain thing once, but not inhaling. And then there was the cigar affair. Oy. And spy sh*t and double intrigue is going on every day.


And you say, " So that makes it right! It's rampant so just let it all go.! Faking identities is morally alight with you?"

No. Knowing and telling a few people about these issues close to you is useful. We can't stop the all the spinning wheels. If you don't like his music, walk past the bin.
He went to the studio; we bought his records.
He performed, we went to his concerts.
If He wasn't really playing or singing, we would have ALL found out quicker than a NilliVanilli second. I mean, how long could THAT have held out?


And why doesn't he own the Lennon/McCartney song library? MJ still has it, right? Well, and Jackson may truly need that revenue these days. But Bill could probably have bought it at that auction so many years ago. I think he LET Michael win. Just maybe. Of course, he is obligated by name to appear (in the press) to want it. And maybe he does. Who wouldn't. That's a lot of royalty bread. Maybe he just thought to himself....No.

I think some of his moves don't come from a place of rank avarice or conceit, but from a certain perception that he has about maintaining the facade. Also, the public can act very wierd to him at times. The recent flap with the photograph etc. at the hunger strike guys river pad was a case. We weren't there. Both parties may have been a bit over reactant. Remember Charlie Sheen, Sean Penn? They have papparazzi issues as well.

Bill has to maintain his, how to I say, stiff upper lip, his facade. He has to pull off a McCartney act a lot of the time. That probably requires planning and thought. It's scary to be out on the high wire, alone.

At this point, Bill seems to have mellowed into a conservative, almost "Republican" family man in many ways. (Except the marijuana issue, and I agree that hemp has many uses and THC is helpful to some people. I am personally allergic to it, but I say to those can handle it responsiblly, I wish they could legally do so.)

Anyway, I do have a reservation selfishly. In the fashion that we can honor Gershwin, Rodgers, Porter, Sondheim, Dorsey, de Silva, Mercer, Arlen, Berlin, on and on as great 20th century composers, and tell their life stories in film or on stage, we are up against a deadlock to do the same with Lennon/McCartney, as a team or separately.

If this story, incomplete as it is to us, were presented as total fiction, it would be a compelling drama, one in which Paul's alter ego need not be drawn a villain, but instead as a type of hero, caught in a old story. An old story as far as circumstances putting an average man into a dilemma with no easy answer. An either answer has a down side. He chooses the daring way--and can never turn back.
This story would never be allowed to be presented as biography. NEVER , anywhere in the free world. Cease and desist letters--- or far worse---would ensue. The German film looks intriguing. I think it must have some disclaimers up front.
He might would like to tell us many things----but the limits are defined. And practice has burnt those limits into the core person.
Those who oversee (surely there are such persons) will ensure that he makes it to the end of his life as Macca without exposure.
As far as his children--I'm sure they are considered too. I ,too, once had the instinct to want to "pull the curtain", but it isn't ours to pull.

[TotalInformation]

I ,too, once had the instinct to want to "pull the curtain", but it isn't ours to pull.


If not us, who?

If not now, when?

[Perplexed]

Good questions.

I have to get alone and look deep inside on those.
They aren't protecting just one man. They are protecting a lot of history and inter-connected issues. And probably money and a number of influential folks as well. You can't bark at Bill and not see ripples. They (whoever "they" are in this case) defend bigger issues than one's man's death and/or disappearance.

Bill may be "I Pagliacci" at this point. Laugh, Clown, Laugh. (Ridi, Pagliacci!) He can't stop doing this thing. That is the clincher. Unless they vote to reverse the game, and let him off. Then, of course, a comfortable story will exist to keep the execs in the dark out of it.

But it is frustrating to see James Paul's true story and contributions go untold.

I, for one, by listening and playing thru his songs, have come to see that Paul's song catalogue, Lennon included, is as great as can be. A catalogue that was rich in melodic beauty at times, harmonic inventiveness (really was getting interesting before the interuption)and clever, sensible lyrics should not be left to Musak and go uncelebrated. Even the "drug" lyrics of Lennon, in light of much of our discovery here, is rich in references and brilliance. Many of thoses drug lyrics might never have been DRUG lines, AT ALL! But nobody can tell that. The fact is, without knowing the story, this goes unrecognizable to music buffs. If they only really knew what Lennon was saying later, and WHY he said things and what he was feeling (we believe) the great balance of questioned, "oh this is just a stupid drug lyric" would vanish.

Lewis Carroll alledgedly experimented, drug-wise I read. Poe, and many others. I don't recommend we all run out and toke away. Probably everyone already has and they've givin' it up. (Whoops, Tavistock failed. They're all stoping, on their own cause they just want too! Sh*T! It's not working! Get those drugs out there, boys!!!!!)

My point: time will reveal a lot. Hundreds of thousands of people, I think,. in the USA, suspect things were, well, suspicious with JFK assassination, and Marilyn Monroe's murder.

Knowledge can grow gradually, in a grass roots way. Beyond this, I see challenges. Don't you? Know disrespect. I believe PID. I think 60IF may very well contain a lot of true things. I think Harrison or Lennon both may have been given misleading leads. I think the author(s) (Lennon, Harrison) believed what they were writing.