Faul brainwashed?

[LordChinfist]

Here is a theory (but admittedly a longshot). Do you think Faul has convinced himself, or has been convinced, that he actually is Paul. Let's refer to O.J. Simpson as an example. O.J. probably did perfrom the murders, but some speculate that he was in such denial that he convinced himself that he did not conduct the murders, and therefore did not believe he conducted the murders. Could Faul be so wrapped up in the identity of Paul that his mind is telling him that he actually is and always has been Paul? Or maybe he has been brainwashed to believe he is Paul. It sounds silly, but maybe when he started out playing the role of Paul in 1966, he went through some serious hardcore CIA type hypnosis or brainwashing, that both helped to contribute to the secrecy that Faul was Paul (by preventing any doubts Faul would have about the situation and no longer wishing to play the part at some point in the future due to his conscience or his wish to return to his former life) and to help in Faul's realistic imitation of Paul (if Faul was made to believe that he actually was Paul, then he could give a more convincing performance of Paul). To go one step further, maybe the rest of the Beatles were brainwashed into believing Faul was Paul also, and all the clues (turn me on dead man, etc.) was an effort from their subconscious to acknowledge the truth. O.K., the last part is REALLY a longshot and not very plausible, but I felt like throwing it out there anyway.

So maybe Faul will never come clean, as he honestly thinks he is Paul. But at the same time, it would be hard for a person to honestly believe he is Paul if he is going through all that plastic surgery.

[PaulBearer]

That certainly is a longshot!

On a side note, I saw a very convincing documentary a little while ago that put forward the idea that it was OJ's son who actually committed the murder and OJ was covering for him -an accomplice after the fact. That certainly clicked with me.

[Forum Manager]

i think the first idea is plausible. he's gone 30 some years "being" paul. people thinking hes paul, and calling him paul. with all of that, i wouldnt be surprised if he had convinced himself to be paul. so, in his own mind, he may htink he's really paul

[TotalInformation]

I would not be surprised if Faul at some point(s) voluntarily (in some sense) underwent hypnosis to have Paul's memories implanted in his subconscious. [cf. 60IF's Paulsoul-in-Faulbody ceremony in India. Similar concept, when you think about it. ("Come Together"?)]But he knows he wasn't always Paul McCartney. It's almost impossible to produce a psychosis that severe unless you start the programming on the subject as a small child.

As for who if anyone else was brainwashed back in the day, remember what Lennon told Playboy - the Army and CIA invented LSD to control us, but it freed us instead.

[PaulBearer]

I've had another thought about this today. I have read somewhere that some celebrities and also many others, often unknown to themselves, when they get plastic surgery, also get a chip implanted into them so that they can be controlled. So I wonder....could that have happened to Faul?

TotalInformation, do you know anything about this kind of thing?

[TotalInformation]

PB - I haven't heard anything about celebrities being used for such experimentation but it certainly is an interesting notion.

You may recall during the 90s that Timothy McVeigh said he had a microchip in his buttock, and nowadays the US military acknowledges chipping many and Applied Digital Solutions is now hawking their own VeriChip.

When would such tech have been available to chip Faul? I dunno. Most probably NOT before 1970. The main use for such a chip would be for GPS location-tracking and monitoring biofunctions . . .

I don't think that kind of hardware would required to control Faul. The ever-present fear of death would take care of any thoughts he'd have of ending the game.

[byrdsmaniac]

Paul Bearer, I know this is off topic, but wasn't OJ's son, like, 8 years old?

[Darkhorse]

OJ has a son from a previous marriage who is a lot older.

[PaulBearer]

There's another post about The Druge Report referring to an article about microchips in cars which said something like "It started with The Beatles"!

[googoo]

Just bumping this to the top since the question has been raised again...

I believe Bill does think of himself as Paul. Not that he doesn't realize he is a different person, but maybe he think he is just as entitled to the name and identity as James Paul ever was, since he's actually lived with it more years than JP did.

In any case, to keep up a lie that big, you have to come up with some reason to justify it to yourself. It's not an easy or enviable position to be in.

Total Information has a good point, that serious brainwashing has to start with a small child to be effective. And even then, the truth may still surface at some point. I would bet that the Beatles all went through some amount of hypnosis to help them deal with the psychological stress of having to maintain the facade. The human psyche just isn't capable of handling something like that without rearranging itself. Of course, the threat of death would be enough to keep most people in line....but the fear and anxiety resulting from that could make a person crack all the more quickly if the wrong button got pushed. So some amount of brainwashing or auto-suggestion might be necessary to override the same fear that was used to keep them in line...and a very delicate balance that would be, to say, you better be scared, but don't let it interfere with what you've gotta do, the show must go on.

[Otacon]

Thanks for the bump, googoo. I probably should have searched before I started that topic.

[LUCY]

.........."maybe I'm a man who's in the middle of something.....that he doesn't really understand......"