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Post by Eggman on Nov 27, 2003 18:03:14 GMT
I found this pic but I have a great doubt: Could this man be Bill Shepard before the first round of plastic surgery? Or is he already Faul in this pic?  Please I need your comments friends!!!!  |
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Post by beldabeast on Nov 27, 2003 18:17:46 GMT
I found this pic but I have a great doubt: Could this man be Bill Shepard before the first round of plastic surgery? Or is he already Faul in this pic? About 1971 , Id say . Notice how he is holding the paper as if he is right handed . thanks for the pic ! Please I need your comments friends!!!! |
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Post by lennonlives on Nov 27, 2003 22:17:54 GMT
i personally reckon somewhere in between |
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Post by SunKing on Nov 27, 2003 22:24:43 GMT
Eggy, just looking at his collagen-full cheeks.....you see... it's simple!  |
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Post by Eggman on Nov 27, 2003 22:33:45 GMT
Oh!!! Ok, thanks Sunny I got it!!!! God!!! His mouth and his chin look very strange in this pic  |
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Nov 29, 2003 5:43:23 GMT
I also noted the building inthe background..reminds me of the Scottish retreat ranch....apparently it was quite ramshackle and run down at one time. Could be hiding out there until face swelling subsides, lol. |
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Post by magnum on Jan 2, 2004 9:24:30 GMT
Eggy, just looking at his collagen-full cheeks.....you see... it's simple! I am new to this site and I am not a believer or disbeliever, but I do know a few things about plastic surgery and I can tell you that collagen is NOT used to fill in large spaces. Only fine lines. I'm not even sure it was used back then. Also, collagen is temporary. |
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Post by Fwings on Jan 2, 2004 9:48:26 GMT
Yeah, and there's many photos where Faul's cheeks have sunken in after the collagen wore off. I believe it becomes apparent in the film "Magical Mystery Tour" during a scene on the bus, and in certain photos, like the "Ram" album cover.
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Post by raymi46 on Jan 3, 2004 7:00:13 GMT
In that pic, he looks like he has what is called "moon face" which is a side effect of taking corticosteroids,such as Prednisone, which are used to treat various disorders such as Crohns' disease or IBS.
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Post by magnum on Jan 3, 2004 10:07:41 GMT
In that pic, he looks like he has what is called "moon face" which is a side effect of taking corticosteroids,such as Prednisone, which are used to treat various disorders such as Crohns' disease or IBS. I agree. I am not saying one way or another what I believe because there does seem to be a few things that don't seem right. I do know a few things about plastic surgery. Botox did not exist in the sixties or seventies. Neither did collagen. Prednisone did. President kennedy was on it when he died. If you notice his face was alot larger than a few years before. One of the biggest misconceptions is that you can use plastic surgery to look like someone else. A facelift, chin implant or a nose job will not make you look like someone else. That would require manipulating bone and we do not have that type of technology yet, let alone in the sixties. Facelifts were very primitive in the sixties and would leave tell tale signs BUT it would not make you look like anyone else anyways so it would not have been an option. Some people have made remarks about so called scars that are proof of plastic surgery. These are simply age related wrinkles. Facelift scars or chin implant scar would not be in the areas that some of you are claiming are from plastic surgery. Do some research and you will see that I am correct. My guess would be that Paul or Faul as you like to refer to him as, has had some plastic surgery over the years. In my opinion he has had a facelift and and eyelift. Mainly to get rid of the jowls and heavy eye lids. I can tell you that if there is an imposter, he was not a product of plastic surgery. He would most likely just be a good double. Hope this helps clear up a few things. |
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 3, 2004 19:07:25 GMT
Magnum, unless you have a background in covert operations, you cannot tell us what experimental techniques inplastic surgery were in use by intelligence agencies in the late 60s.
What we have with Faul is someone who bore a resemblance to Paul undergoing specific surgeries to look even more like a specific person. Of course the scars would not be where your regular "facelift" scars are, because these would not be your standard facelifts.
You're correct when you say one cannot be manipulated, of course, and this can give the game away to the careful observer.
Much of this has been discussed already. Go back and read old threads and use the search engine.
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Post by magnum on Jan 4, 2004 10:01:54 GMT
Magnum, unless you have a background in covert operations, you cannot tell us what experimental techniques inplastic surgery were in use by intelligence agencies in the late 60s. What we have with Faul is someone who bore a resemblance to Paul undergoing specific surgeries to look even more like a specific person. Of course the scars would not be where your regular "facelift" scars are, because these would not be your standard facelifts. You're correct when you say one cannot be manipulated, of course, and this can give the game away to the careful observer. Much of this has been discussed already. Go back and read old threads and use the search engine. To make a statement like this you must have some back ground in "covert operations". If not, what facts back up your opinions about me being wrong? |
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 4, 2004 18:47:58 GMT
Logical fallacy.
You're the one making pretensions of omniscience and concomitant occult knowledge here.
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Post by fixingahole on Jan 4, 2004 21:08:54 GMT
TI, you seem to have a lot of knowledge on covert information and intelligence agencies. On what are you basing your theories? Your background in covert operations?
I suppose if you told us, you'd have to kill us.
*smile*
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Post by magnum on Jan 4, 2004 22:14:18 GMT
Logical fallacy. You're the one making pretensions of omniscience and concomitant occult knowledge here. "Faul has had plastic surgery to make him look like Paul." "Really, How do you know?" "Covert operations, silly boy." Gee, thanks for clearing this up for me. This does not constitute proof. It is an opinion based on no factual knowledge. You are the one making the claim so it is not up to me to disprove it. It's up to you to prove it. You can not so it stands only as an opinion. |
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 5, 2004 3:11:56 GMT
Higgins,
Do at least *try* to follow the conversation.
At issue is your outrageous statement that you know the techniques and technologies extant in billions of brains over several years.
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