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Post by Perplexed on Dec 14, 2003 9:08:34 GMT
SInce we have read somewhere that at I think 1;58 in Hey Jude, Lennon, forgetting a background vocal, utters audibly on the take "f*ck*n" hell". No one bothered to remove it; once you hear it, you can't miss it on later hearings. I always noticed stray groans and things on Beatle records, but it seems to be Lennon swearing in frustration sometimes.
It hit me like a bell while listening to "Lovely Rita" a while back, forgot to post until now. At the end, during the "love moans" section in that peculiar little piano funky play-off in A minor that ends the song (which sounds a little quirky and improvised as an ending, to me anyway) that he says "I can't believe it!"
He is reacting, I believe, to the fact that some track or another actually timed out right in probably an overdub. The ending of the piece is odd: it ends on a weak, unstressed phrase, and an unstable dm7 chord and then a gliss on the piano down to A. It is not related much to the song material that comes before this ending section.
Even the well transcribed "Sargeant Pepper" songbook I found at Colony Music in New York City (what an incredible resource of a store)reveals the exact harmonic scheme, etc-----I think they might have been struggling with an ending for Rita, and after a few attempts, whatever the plan was worked out just right, in terms of counts and beats and the bass and guitar agreeing harmonically. John was like saying:" I can't believe that worked out! Yeah!"
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Dec 25, 2003 18:49:21 GMT
SInce we have read somewhere that at I think 1;58 in Hey Jude, Lennon, forgetting a background vocal, utters audibly on the take "f*ck*n" hell". No one bothered to remove it; once you hear it, you can't miss it on later hearings. I always noticed stray groans and things on Beatle records, but it seems to be Lennon swearing in frustration sometimes. It hit me like a bell while listening to "Lovely Rita" a while back, forgot to post until now. At the end, during the "love moans" section in that peculiar little piano funky play-off in A minor that ends the song (which sounds a little quirky and improvised as an ending, to me anyway) that he says "I can't believe it!" He is reacting, I believe, to the fact that some track or another actually timed out right in probably an overdub. The ending of the piece is odd: it ends on a weak, unstressed phrase, and an unstable dm7 chord and then a gliss on the piano down to A. It is not related much to the song material that comes before this ending section. Even the well transcribed "Sargeant Pepper" songbook I found at Colony Music in New York City (what an incredible resource of a store)reveals the exact harmonic scheme, etc-----I think they might have been struggling with an ending for Rita, and after a few attempts, whatever the plan was worked out just right, in terms of counts and beats and the bass and guitar agreeing harmonically. John was like saying:" I can't believe that worked out! Yeah!" Good ear, dude, to hear and post this. I have always thought he said, "LEAVE IT" thinking he meant, 'don't get involved with the female cop". Also, It sounds like he could be saying "BELIEVE IT" to which I have no suggested meanings. I still say, we need to check the ORIGINAL MONO mixdown of Sgt. Pepper's. They spent 3 weeks doing the meticulous mono mixes of the songs; they spent like 2 days on a rush stereo version. Both were completely different, custom mixes. The mono mix is usually available on CD at specialty music stores, or CD places which have a healthy 'IMPORT' section. I myself sadly admit I have never heard anything from the original, as-Beatles-intended-it mono mixdown. And, they personally presided over every facet of the mono mixes. |
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Dec 25, 2003 18:50:41 GMT
Since we have read somewhere that at I think 1;58 in Hey Jude, Lennon, forgetting a background vocal, utters audibly on the take "f*ck*n" hell". No one bothered to remove it; once you hear it, you can't miss it on later hearings. I always noticed stray groans and things on Beatle records, but it seems to be Lennon swearing in frustration sometimes. I also hear in Hey Jude, it sounds like George Harrison saying at one point, "Let's go back to England." Edited by PB to fix syntax. |
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Post by TheWatusi on Dec 26, 2003 9:31:06 GMT
ians definately right on the mono....its almost assured that anything of value we'd find would be on the original mono version
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Post by Otacon on Dec 27, 2003 6:23:47 GMT
I'm sorry, this is a little off topic, but could someone help me find where Lennon says that in "Hey Jude". I'm not sure if I'm hearing it. What recording is it best to listen to (or which album)?
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Post by Perplexed on Dec 27, 2003 9:53:15 GMT
It is at One minute and fifty-eight seconds on your CD timer. I have "1", the Cd of number one hits. I'll have to find where I read about this anomaly, but I think it is fairly well known on those Beatle anomaly sites.
It kinda sounds like: "Ken-Ell."
I don't know. Maybe he said :"Ken-Ell."
He uses "f*ck*n ' h*ll in other interviews etc.
Funny, though. As discreet as he MUST have been about some issues, he sure couldn't keep from blowing off steam during a TAKE!!!!Most people cover their mouth, look around, turn red, and freeze up till the take is complete. Then they say ALL kinds of stuff. JMO, though..........
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Dec 27, 2003 13:29:48 GMT
HEY PB- WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE MY POSTS THE HELL ALONE? DON'T CONCERN YOURSELF WITH MY SYNTAX.
UNLESS YOU ARE INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO CREATE SOME FRICTION AGAIN...
SOME SELECT ADMINISTRATORS COULD SPEND THEIR TIME ON MORE CONSTRUCTIVE, MATURE PERSUITS.
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Post by gm1276 on Dec 27, 2003 20:48:59 GMT
HEY PB- WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE MY POSTS THE HELL ALONE? DON'T CONCERN YOURSELF WITH MY SYNTAX. UNLESS YOU ARE INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO CREATE SOME FRICTION AGAIN... SOME SELECT ADMINISTRATORS COULD SPEND THEIR TIME ON MORE CONSTRUCTIVE, MATURE PERSUITS. +1000  |
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Post by PaulBearer on Dec 28, 2003 3:22:29 GMT
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Post by TotalInformation on Dec 28, 2003 7:43:52 GMT
You two may be miscommunication. "Syntax" is not inclusive of bad coding.
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Post by Perplexed on Dec 28, 2003 8:37:53 GMT
YA'LL!!
Come on, kiss and make-up, OK?
(Ok, now, I don't mean to suggest anything kinky here; I use "kiss" as a phigyour of speache.................)
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