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Post by LUCY on Aug 30, 2004 23:40:31 GMT
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 6, 2005 22:11:24 GMT
there's a regular edition out now, 25 bucks. flipped thrui it. oldest card is from faul & mal in spain en route to africa.
ringo slags on the queen/monarchy a lot in his commentaries.
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Post by beatled on Jan 7, 2005 22:47:39 GMT
I bought it, it's kinda a nice book. Nothing too exciting, except this one got me wondering.. Two words from Bill: "Aniversity Indeed", at least at first glance, but then it looks more like aniversity undead! A picture of Mary Hopkins on the front, who of course did indeed sing "Those Were the Days", and was one of Bill's proteges. (and real cute too!) Ringo wonders aloud, "what could Paul be saying?" (A rhetorical question I'm sure..) I made a close up of the postmark, 11-11-69. No way of knowing that's the exact day he wrote it and mailed it of course. http://*banned link*/Shoebox/postcards/postcards1.jpg[/img] http://*banned link*/Shoebox/postcards/postcards2.jpg[/img] http://*banned link*/Shoebox/postcards/postcardscropped.jpg[/img]
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 8, 2005 17:38:02 GMT
maybe the anniversary of when he signed on to become faux-Paul? Nov. 11 69, this would have been when PID was busting out in America.
Jojo, there was another postcard from FAUL with some strange words on it. Could you tell us what they were? I didn't have a pen w/ me at the bookshop.
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Post by beatled on Jan 8, 2005 17:41:56 GMT
I'll do better than that, do you remember anything about it so i can narrow it down?
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Post by TotalInformation on Jan 8, 2005 17:53:57 GMT
I think it had about three nonsense words. They may have all begun w/ "D". Towards the beginning of the book.
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Post by beatled on Jan 8, 2005 17:57:44 GMT
Never mind, I think I know what you're talking about: Nothing to say... but what a day, how's your boy been..http://*banned link*/Shoebox/postcards/postcards3.jpg[/img] http://*banned link*/Shoebox/postcards/postcards4.jpg[/img]
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Post by unrepentant on Jan 9, 2005 4:05:08 GMT
ringo has the "paul" routine down to an art form now doesn't he, but in the begining of this mess he was a lot more lost....remember that "miss you like hell" button [custom made?]. people handle preposturous bullshit different ways, i may not have been any different if it were me in ringo's place, but i still get something like a knot in my stomach when i see this poor guy crank out the same old deceit, almost four decades later. how about you? ? ;D ?
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Post by beatled on Jan 9, 2005 5:36:25 GMT
Well maybe Ringo doesn't "whisper the clues" in the songs, but the button is an example of how Ringo handles this situation. In your face, but can be taken of one or two or perhaps three ways. Stops short of being stated overtly, but not the complicated layers of a John clue. "Aniversity i/undead" Quite simple really..
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Post by unrepentant on Jan 9, 2005 8:09:13 GMT
maybe they actually believed paul's spirit was inhabiting bill's body, and all that scribbled "i/undead" thing was in reference to their trip to india?
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Post by valis on Jan 18, 2005 7:02:34 GMT
What the hal9000 was Bill on when he wrote that last message. I still think it's a miracle that that card arrived at Ringo's place at all.But it's a sure sign that Bill lost it a bit in tohse days.
All Love Jan
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Post by Perplexed on Jan 18, 2005 10:08:16 GMT
I am trying to put myself in various shoes, here in this complex situation. [Not that I consider my feet "big" enough to wear them; but in my effort to waste time and totally derail my personal aspirations, I often commit to entire blocks of hours "ruminating" on everybody else in the world. It's better then gossiping; and one can live in another world whilst still being in one's own head!] I digress. As I was saying: I try to imagine being in the "Bill chair", then, being in the "George chair,", the "Ringo chair", on and on, the "John chair" ; and I get odd, conflicting, jumbles of feelings.
("Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease....)
Watching old videos:, Hey Jude, Revolution, Get Back----I sense conflicting dynamics, layers of feelings that alternate between compliance, petulance, anger, denial, resignation, embarassment, anxiety, dissapointment, eagerness, fellowship, encouragement, frustration. And, from all four, at odd times, feelings that shoot out into the rrom and meet somewhere off camera, above their heads, above the camera's range of vision. I sense Ringo "going along", resigned, eager, frustrated, hopeful, tired, sad, but committed to really try.
I read George's lips near the beginning of the Revolution video. Unless I am wrong, and we've all seen that a few times, he appears to be telling Bill, shouting over the tracks they are trying to sync to:
"Try to play in sync..."
Ouch. Well, in all fairness, synching can be hard to do anyway, particularly in the circumstances and the ascribed personality dynamics. Concentration does not come easy when you are, frankly, trying to please everybody, and look natural in a new situation, and the established "cats" are understandably jaded, still adjusting to things being a bit different........
It's not a perfect climate or recipe for a fresh from far away stranger to enter into......a fellowship of intimacy and outward established fame......an artistically tight clique.......and the demands and expectations, are great, ultimately, even if there is a tolerance for the "learning curve", improvement planned in stages..........
And Lennon is, frankly. weird, and seems snide, and edgy, and many took that from "always drugged out", which I doubt; but he was trying to wear a front, while supressing a lot, and trying to "manage" his natural feelings in a "good for business" kind of way. Weird, though I go on admiring him........
Ringo detaches, and "steps inside" mentally on request, or when a good laugh's being had, George seems concerned in an "anal retentive" way about things going well, about appearences on camera, not realizing (at the early stage) that it just doesn't matter at this point,--it's the Beatles!, and there is a good explanation for everything! Which, he comes to figure out in a later time and acts so, accordingly.
The David Frost "Hey Jude" live performance is more of a revelation on the 5th viewing. I saw it first airing, and well, more details later.......I was young then........weren't we all..........
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Post by Jilli on Jan 18, 2005 12:28:15 GMT
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Post by abbey on Jan 18, 2005 18:47:14 GMT
I keep reading on other conspiracy sites the relevance of 11/11 ! If Bill is Illuminati, that really makes this stand out ! Anyone else care to add to this ? T.I. The second postcard from Bill is interesting. He's using FRENCH words. Since he is French Canadian & not British, I'm curious at to WHAT those words mean Anyone I tried entering all the words on it in the Cryptographer that verachuckanddave posted a link to, but it says there aren't enough words. AARRGGHH !!!!
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Post by unrepentant on Jan 19, 2005 2:32:39 GMT
i have become a PERPLEXED fan........
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Post by beatled on Jan 19, 2005 4:05:00 GMT
There's a recording of Bill singing "Goodbye My Love" as well, I have it somewhere, here are the lyrics. He changed the gender in his version of course. Please don't wake me up too late tomorrow comes And I can not be late Late today when it becomes tomorrow I will Leave to go a-way
Goodbye...Goodbye... Goodbye, Goodbye, my love, Goodbye
Songs that lingered on my lips excite me now And linger on my mind Leave your flowers at my door I'll leave them for The one who waits behind
Goodbye...Goodbye... Goodbye, Goodbye, my love, Goodbye
Far away my lover sings a lonely song And calls me to his side When a song of lonely love invites me on I must go to his side
Goodbye...Goodbye... Goodbye, Goodbye, my love, Goodbye
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Post by beatled on Jan 19, 2005 4:10:05 GMT
i have become a PERPLEXED fan........ He's the Maestro!! ;D
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Post by Perplexed on Jan 19, 2005 4:16:18 GMT
Praise is a gift from out of the blue.
Thanks! (It's always said to accept kind words graciously.)
unrepentant--I have noted numerous good insights in your posts, and lately, too....
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Post by Perplexed on Jan 19, 2005 7:00:09 GMT
JoJo, well, thanks, but, really, only by virtue of my car tag.......
Which, I got because I could get away with it-------
Another pianist in my town and I "arm-wrestled" over who would finally lay claim to the prize, "MAESTRO", on the old tag. This was in the 80's and we knew that my state wasnot going to offer 7 digit personalized tags for several years, and no one knew when.
I knew he had "connections" downtown, and could get a jump on me. It lay dormant in my mind for years. Finally, the announcement came, I could get my 7 letters and thus my "MAESTRO", and as I was scheming to get to the tag office at daybreak to seize a jump on the tag, I learned that my friend was moving permanently out of state. Immediately.
I stood in line with the clerk pondering: Having lost the opportunity of a sweet victory, I considered, should I just have it read: CHEATED? Now, that's seven letters. Or, DEFAULT? That's seven letters as well. JOYRIDE, DMVFREE, FREEBIE, OBIDDER, NOLOCON, SOURWIN, TOOEASY, EASYACE, NONOTCH, ZIPSCOR, GIVAWAY, CHALKED, LEFTOVR, SCAMTAG, NOTFAIR, OUTDONE, and finally, LTRZ4ME.
Years of a harmless, friendly competition over who would get the tag, won by me, in default. Handed to me in a silver platter. How could life be so cruel, awarding me something I wanted so badly. Recieving the prize without having to claw and scratch and bite.
I was forced to remain, on the outside, a nice person. And somehow still getting what I wanted.
And my friend? So, he got his pick of a tag in his new state. Everybody wins. And why? Elementary, my dear Watson, all because of the state we put ourselves in...........
Funny, I don't FEEL like a Maestro right now......perhaps if I drive around in my car with the tag a'gleamin' for a while......
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Post by Perplexed on Jan 19, 2005 7:13:47 GMT
He's the Maestro!! ;D Well, thank again, but, maybe not "THE', maybe just "a", cause I think that there is a real Maestro around here, sort of the "Maestro-at-large"..........(I'm just feelin' like "a large Maestro" in these slacks, tonight...) "Oh, Can you Feel your slacks tonight, They're quite a bulging sight, Cuffs and pleats, can't hide your saggy bum, In your trousers tight."
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Post by Perplexed on Jan 19, 2005 7:17:22 GMT
and, regarding the toppic, of Ringo's last post card displayed here, isn't "cointreau" a sweet, orange flavored liqour?
Sort of sweet like amaretto, frangelica, sambuca, kahlua, or grand marnier........even, vermouth......
"fuff" is not a French word......though it SHOULD be...
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Post by abbey on Jan 19, 2005 16:48:46 GMT
Perplexed - you ARE truly a maestro of words, my friend. I'm gonna babblefish those words & see what shakes loose. Who the heck knows WHAT Bill was trying to say JoJo - the words to that song are very disturbing. I wonder who wrote it
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Post by beatled on Jan 26, 2005 23:14:52 GMT
Here's the Beatle Bill version. I'm posting it because it's rare, and he sings pretty high, even for him. Btw, he does not change the gender of the "love" in the song, but that doesn't have to mean anything, we don't necessarily have to go there... Could have been singing it for Mary, so as to give her an idea of how it should sound.
http://*banned link*/Shoebox/GoodByeMyLove.mp3
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