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Post by DayTripper on Nov 17, 2003 1:04:02 GMT
I've heard some references here to Scottish accents, so it made me think about this. In the bridge section of "Hello Goodbye," the part with the heavy echo, listen to the voice that sings, "I don't know why, why, why, do you say, goodbye, goodbye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye..." Pay particular attention to the words, "do you say." This never occurred to me before, but doesn't that sound strongly Scottish or Irish? It does to me.
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Post by Darkhorse on Nov 17, 2003 2:13:36 GMT
Maybe. Can't tell.
We've found a Scottish accent in the lines, "Grandchildren on your knees, Vera, Chuck and Dave" from When I'm Sixty Four.
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Post by pennylane on Nov 17, 2003 2:38:45 GMT
Spot on DayTripper... great catch...  ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Eggman on Nov 17, 2003 3:19:38 GMT
She's scottish!!! ;D ;D |
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Post by DayTripper on Nov 17, 2003 3:25:03 GMT
She's scottish!!! ;D ;D Actually, I'm a HE. I thought about it after I had selected DayTripper as my user name. Oh, well.  |
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Post by Darkhorse on Nov 17, 2003 3:26:13 GMT
I always thought that that part in the song you could really tell it was Faul singing whereas the rest of the song sounded more like Terry Draper.
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Post by pennylane on Nov 17, 2003 3:35:56 GMT
Actually, I'm a HE. I thought about it after I had selected DayTripper as my user name. Oh, well. i think he was talking about me... somehow he found out i was scottish... maybe it was my temper that gave me away... ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Eggman on Nov 17, 2003 3:39:20 GMT
Actually, I'm a HE. I thought about it after I had selected DayTripper as my user name. Oh, well. Sorry!!!! I was talking about Spanky ;D |
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Post by DayTripper on Nov 17, 2003 4:14:51 GMT
Sorry!!!! I was talking about Spanky ;D No sweat! ;D |
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Post by beldabeast on Nov 18, 2003 2:31:39 GMT
I've heard some references here to Scottish accents, so it made me think about this. In the bridge section of "Hello Goodbye," the part with the heavy echo, listen to the voice that sings, "I don't know why, why, why, do you say, goodbye, goodbye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye..." Pay particular attention to the words, "do you say." This never occurred to me before, but doesn't that sound strongly Scottish or Irish? It does to me. Until I finally saw the video in 95 I thought John sang Hello-Goodbye |
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Post by Perplexed on Nov 18, 2003 6:30:17 GMT
All I know is, the word "do", in "do you say", is a high C.
Listen to the lyric "I'm looking thru you, you're not the same." (unsure about real title)in "Looking Thru You" The word "You're" is a high C. That's the way a vocal type like James Paul squeezes up to a note that high.
The high phrase in "Hello Goodbye" is so pure, round, free of vocal distortions.
The high phrase in "Looking Thru You" is strained and gritty. And great.
I know vocalist can add griity sounds and growl on purpose, but, to me, this is not that. A voice like JP's could not make that sound in Hello Goodbye that way. The voice that sings Hello Goodbye COULD add some "strain" on purpose if they wanted to.
Its one thing to add a grind or rock sound to your voice. You can always add something. Lots of people add it in.
It is another thing to hit a note cleanly, that, it seems to me, is 3 or 4 tones beyond your chest voice range. And that range is comprehended by listening to many of his (JP's) songs, and knowing a little something about the male voice.
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Post by DayTripper on Nov 18, 2003 13:23:54 GMT
The high phrase in "Hello Goodbye" is so pure, round, free of vocal distortions. Agreed. It's quite high, but it's also very clear and potent, not strained at all. I don't see any way that the man who sang "Yesterday" (James Paul) could have also sang that "do you say" line. All of the higher parts of "Yesterday" sound very smooth and mellow to me without the "punch" of the "do you say" line. |
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Post by Curious on Nov 18, 2003 13:37:00 GMT
Maybe. Can't tell. We've found a Scottish accent in the lines, "Grandchildren on your knees, Vera, Chuck and Dave" from When I'm Sixty Four. Sorry, Darkhorse, but that's NOT a Scottish accent. It's the stereotypical whiny Liverpool accent, often still used for comedy effect today. It does, however, have a lot of Scottish and Irish elements in the accent. |
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Post by DayTripper on Nov 18, 2003 14:25:14 GMT
Sorry, Darkhorse, but that's NOT a Scottish accent. It's the stereotypical whiny Liverpool accent, often still used for comedy effect today. It does, however, have a lot of Scottish and Irish elements in the accent. Exactly. What makes things even more confusing is that Liverpool has a large Irish population. James Paul himself was ethnically Irish. They say in the Anthology book that they always joked that Liverpool is the capitol of Ireland. |
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