changing eye colur

[djmartins]

Check out:

www.ivillagehealth.com/experts/eye/qas/0,,242114_174880,00.html

This woman's question on iVillage Health:

"Can Adults' Eye Color Change?

Can eye color change in adults? I am 28-year-old female. I have noticed over the last month that my eyes seem to be changing colors. My eyes are hazel, but now appear to be a deep blue.

Casey"


Here is another one on The Straight Dope:

www.straightdope.com/classics/a971205.html

some quotes as follows

"Dear Cecil:

I have an ophthalmological mystery for you to unravel. I was born with hazel eyes (it's on my birth certificate), that is, a muddy mix of green and brown. About two to four years ago, around age 31, they changed fairly quickly to light blue or blue-gray (depending on the light). I don't know exactly when it happened because I only found out when my girlfriend pointed it out to me. I told her she was nuts, of course, but checked in the mirror and she was right. No one has been able to explain this phenomenon to me, least of all my optometrist. My fraternal twin brother, however, forwarded me a biomedical journal article which described an adult change in eye color occurring in about 10 percent of the population. The study involved twins whose eye color was rated annually or so on a scale of 1 to 15, or blue to brown. None of the subjects had a change higher than three units, and a change of two units was typical among those whose eye color changed. Clearly my situation is different, since my color change must be near 15 units. Do you have any explanation or corroboration of this? --Dave Stockhoff, via the Internet "

answer?

"Cecil replies:

Eye color is another one of those woefully unstudied fields. We're OK in the name department, though. Having multicolored eyes is called heterochromia. If your eyes become darker/browner, that's hyperchromia; if lighter/bluer, hypochromia. These conditions can signify one of two things: (1) some horrible disease, trauma, or other problem, or (2) nothing. So Dave, assuming you're not in deep denial, I guess you're one of those lucky guys in category two. Then again, while I hate to be the voice of doom, maybe it's a question of waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Here's what we know:

Multicolored eyes are fairly rare, usually benign, and frequently genetic in origin, occurring in maybe 1 percent of the population. Alexander the Great supposedly had them. So does rock legend David Bowie (one blue eye, one hazel or gray, depending on whom you ask). If you want to see an example and you and Bowie aren't speaking these days, heterochromia is common in some domestic animals. Check out a dalmatian or a Siamese cat.
One way to get heterochromia is to have somebody punch you in the eye as a kid. That seems to be what happened to David Bowie, who got popped at age 12 in a dispute over a girl. In many such cases the iris of the popped eye gets darker. In Bowie's case the pupils are also of noticeably and, dare I say, eerily different sizes. I don't claim there's any connection with his career, but you can imagine Dave looking in the mirror and thinking, This is not the face of a guy who was meant to drive a beer truck.
Eye color is mainly a function of the pigment melanin. If your eyes have a lot of it, they're brown. If they don't, they're blue. (Some details of this explanation are in dispute, but don't worry about that now.) Green eyes result from yellowish flecks of fatty pigment against a dark background. Some men think a green-eyed woman is exotic. The truth is she's got fat eyes.
Some people's eye color does change for no apparent reason. Your brother probably saw something about the Louisville Twin Study, which rated color change on a scale of 1 to 15. Researchers concluded that changes occur in 10 to 15 percent of Caucasian adults. On average the changes were slight, about two or three notches. But I guess somebody has to be at the far end of the curve.
On the other hand--if, honest to God, your eyes shifted from hazel (medium brown) to light blue, that's a radical depigmentation--maybe not 15 on the Louisville scale but possibly 7 or 8. When doctors see something like that they wonder, What other parts of this guy's body are about to fall off? You didn't say anything about blurry vision or eye irritation, which pretty much rules out Fuchs's heterochromia, and you're a little young for senile iris atrophy. I see some discussion here with words like "blastoma" in it . . . nah, can't be. Sorry. Forget I even brought it up. "


another one at
www.fi.edu/tfi/units/life/forums/anatomy/0508000927.html

">Hair & eye colour
>By sarah
>[e-mail]
>
>Is there any possible way to change the colour of your natural eye and hair
> colour...(without having to wear coloured contacts and dyeing the hair?).
>

Hello! There's been a quite a few instances where a brown eyed person's
eyes turned green on it's own. Probably only if someone in their
family line had hazel eyes (brown/green/blue/grey). I've been researching
this subject a lot since my eyes (dark brown) seem to be getting
lighter and lighter. I read somewhere that 10% of caucasians experience
an eye color change in their adult years. I don't know anything
about hair color though! Hope this helps!

Here's something interesting I read on usenet:
>Forum: misc.health.alternative
>Subject: changing eye color - what does it mean?
>Date: 04/07/2000
>Author: Beyonder
>
> Ok, I give up. I've asked my doctor and several other doctors, and no one seems to
> have an answer. Actually the doctors all tell me it is impossible
for your eyes to >change color. period.
>likely story.
>
> my eyes have changed color more times than I can count, and not
little subtle >changes for short
> periods of time, I mean for months my eyes will change colors drastically.
>
> And I would really like to know what this is all about.
>
> I used to have dark, deep brown eyes. but that all changed a few years ago.
>
> At the moment there isn't a hint of brown left. none. they are best described
> right now as a "yellowy gold" with a lot of gold color.
>
> they have been green, teal green, light, dark, green. and I mean pure green.
>
> they have of course been a striking hazel color (I think this
one is a given) with >either a lot of grey or
> green. sometimes predominantly grey or green.
>
> they have been yellow, all yellow, very striking. they have also
been grey or gray, >depending which you
> prefer.
>
> they have also been the oddest shade of red I've ever seen.
>
> They have been this odd gold color now for at least 4 months (without fluctuation), >the brown has
> never returned.
>
> My doctor has seen the change in color and has no suggestions.
>


Posted 11:14AM May 8, 2000"

So, it is not impossible for some's eye colour to change.
The stat of 10 to 15% of all caucasian adults experience
changes in eye colour tells me is is actually COMMON
and occurs in more than ONE IN TEN CAUCASIANS!

It is rather easy to Google up a lot of people
who claim that thier eye colour has changed
from BROWN to a lighter colur, all the way to LIGHT BLUE!

DJ

[eyesbleed]

Interesting read there DJ.
Now if you could just find evidence that the human skull can completely change shape after eating lots of acid .....

[djmartins]

Eyesbleed,

First I need something that would
allow me to actually COMPARE two skulls.
Do you have the skulls handy, perchance?
There is too much skin, hair, and muscles covering
the photo's skulls for me to make a direct measurement
of them.
I have also seen the two other webpages that use the same photos y'all use where the faces of "Faul"
and Paul match. Maybe they are "doctored"
pictures.

DJ

[eyesbleed]

djmartins said:

Eyesbleed,

First I need something that would
allow me to actually COMPARE two skulls.
Do you have the skulls handy, perchance?
DJ

Hhmmm, well I'm not sure; lemme go dig around in the
forbidden closet when I get a few minutes & I'll get back to ya on that one!!

[djmartins]

Hi eyesbleed,

I hope that closet is BIG!

I decided to take a devil's advocate approach
to this due to a lack of skeptical people here.
I am especially disturbed by the fact that the
basis of this theory, "60IF", has not been released.
This fact alone makes it VERY hard to believe this
whole thing.....

The story sounds believeable to a certain extent,
and the pictures can be very convincing.
It has *always* appeared to me that Paul's looks
have changed a LOT through the years.
But that alone is far from enough to convince me
he was replaced. I have seen other webpages
using the same technique that show the SAME person.

I find the pics totally inconclusive despite strident protest that they are "legal" and "proof".

DJ

[Jilli]

When DJ asked us to check out the post on ivillagehealth.com from Casey who's eyes changed from hazel to blue. The doctor with the MD after his name, Dr. William Trattler,only confirmed that eyes become darker with changing. He did not confirm they changed to a lighter color, unless there is a tumor in the eye, (singlar) which is very rare.

The Straight Dope.com is written by a reporter who doesnt say they turn lighter, but does say they can change color.

And the last site DJ suggests we go to is a forum. With people writing to the forum stating that their eyes changed to a lighter color. (With no pictures to show the different changes.)

SO unless you can come up with legal proof that eyes can turn lighter I think DJ should keep looking.

What is it DJ said? Oh I remember "it is rather easy to google up a lot of people who claim that thier eye colour has changed from BROWN to a lighter colur." I didnt see any pictures of dark eyes turned to lighter eyes. Not one.

This site has lots of pictures of two different people (clearly seen in the photographs) claiming the same name. Thats more proof then DJ has.

Enough said.

hugs
Jilli

[Piggies]

Jilli said:

This site has lots of pictures of two different people (clearly seen in the photographs) claiming the same name. Thats more proof then DJ has.

Enough said.

hugs
Jilli

DJ just doesn't understand that the concept that secret societies, KKK kidnappings, coverups that go to the highest level of the British government and an imposter replacing JPM are much more plausable than something as far fetched as an eye color change that happens in only 10% to 15% of caucasions.

C'Mon DJ, get with the program. ;D