Let it be naked

[robbby]

Found this on a website and then actually listened to it .......

On the "Fly on the Wall" disc that came free
with some copies of "Let it Be...Naked",
at around 1.47 John starts to tell Paul what the lyrics to
"One After 909" mean - even though they wrote it around 1961!
John later says "We always thought it wasn't finished"
- as if to tell Billy, "Me and Paul always thought it wasn't finished"!

.... It is freaky listening to it since it is simply a chat between Paul Mcartney and John Lennon with John strangely explaining the meaning to a song they both wrote years before.

site address is homepage.mac.com/doctorlev/newclues.htm and this is submission 75.

[MMCDHoward]

because its not possible for Paul to forget the lyrics to a song 8 years later right?

[BillyJones]

He didn't forget the lyrics according to what Rob said. He didn't know WHAT the song was about. Totally different in mho.

[unrepentant]

the emperor is......scantily clad, isn't he. but who's going to be the one to TELL him?

imagine what studio dialogue exists in private hands....

[robbby]

Listened to the conversation really closely and even John lennon admits that he did'nt know what the song "1 after 909" was about.
Now this was a song written by Lennon and Mcartney.
So if John did'nt write it it must have been Paul.
So therefore why is John Lennon explaining to Paul what the song is about. When if youy listen to the conversation carefully, it was Paul who wrote it.

This is a rough transcript of conversation (one or two words missing could'nt make out).....

Mcartney.....Really thats a blast from the past. "whistles"

Lennon.......i was mean't to change the words of it and do somthing, but err...

Mcartney.....But it eh...No it's so great 1 after 909.....i never sort of knew what it was about before (laughs)

Lennon........No i never

Mcartney......I mean.... so she's on the train?

Lennon.........Yes

Mcartney......And he sort of.......

Lennon......... (intterupts) He goes to the station and misses it.

Mcartney....... (laughs) But he goes back and finds it was the wrong number.......so?

Lennon..........Wrong location.....to rhyme with station...you know.

Mcartney.......Thats great that....railman said you got the wrong location....well!!!.....great !!....Our kids been saying you should do that for years , you know...you know mike you don't understand about these things you know.

Lennon.........We always thought it was'nt finished, that one. Could'nt do all the finishing.

What gets me is this is simply a conversation that has only been widley distributed recently on an album or at all as far as i know. An outake of recordings from the studios and they're conversations.
The thing that made me feel that this is different to all the other clues you see out there on albums and the lp's is the fact that they were put there meaning to be found. This kind of recording back in those days would have just simply been archived and as far as all were concerned most probably forgotten about. This kind of material i guess would to them have not had any worth to it, so therefore noone would have thought of it ever being released to the public.
My point being.......Why (if the story behind the clues) are made up for a laugh and to for whatever reason lead the fans on, carry this pretence onto a recording which in they're minds would never see the light of day again.

I mean no-one was to know that so many years after it would be used on a new version of Let it be.

My sensible side keeps telling me "no this is a Beatles wind up" but every time my other side finds things that just don't make sense.

I heard somthing the other day ..... there's no fun in commiting the perfect crime because noone knows you done it and you can't tell anyone about it (if you did it would'nt be perfect) ........same here....where's the fun in a wind up if you can't turn to the people and say "Gotcha"

[Perplexed]

Exactly. As if they never had a true candid moment where they weren't intentionally dropping hidden clues or having everyone "on". You are right. That seems ludicrous that every conversatioin, every mannerism, every innuendo, is a plotted out in advance gimmick. And to wha ultimate purpose?

Lennon had a purpose, EMI had its purposes, M. Martin had his purposes, Britain has its interesys, America has its interest, the other Beatles had their continuing motivations. It isn't as if the whole group involved in production were of ONE mind, planting cues and pulling our leg.
It was a blend of motivations.

There are no doubt, conspiracies here and there and schemes as such. But the participants look of one accord, but often I think the mix of purposes creates the one overall "picture" we see.

What does Part "A" want? Motivations. how they are antagonistic; how they are synergistics. This "global" multi-layered approach of looking at history is easy to pass up for a simplistic, "they did it" kind of analysis. "They did it." Who are they?

Is it ever that simple?

But, equally important is, "WHY did "they" do whatever?"
What did they hope to accomplish? What were all the objectives?
How they they conflict with each other/ or resolve?

Lets put our inquiries in check: Are we just looking for "evil" plans? Do we assume and assign malevolence automatically?
Assumptions can be false.

The "benefit of the doubt" should always remain on the multiple choice list of reactions. Things might be so much better than we THINK they are sometimes. I know I get corny sometimes; but I still think its true: it's not a bad thing to LOOK for the silver lining.

[Paulythene Paul]

Listen to Fly On The Wall for the few seconds before, on, and after the 17 minute mark. Ringo (pretending to be Dick Martin to John's Dan Rowan) and John are joking with Yoko, making her laugh. Paul comes along and patronizingly informs Ringo and John that the joking must stop and work must begin. John talks back to Paul like he's some kind of interloper, suggesting he not play with "our group". Zing! Gotcha!