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Post by plastic paul on Jan 29, 2005 21:28:22 GMT
Hey im new to this forum and this is my first post so try to go easy on me guys!
I was browsing the webpage with all the info regarding pauls death when it struck me, the idea that john inserted clues that need to be deciphered in the form of re-arranging letters.
So i took the first line of "a day in a life" and started work.
"I read the news today oh boy"
How about..... HE DIE THE WORST DEATH but it didnt use all the letters.
Then it came to me (its a little rough around the edges i know, but).........HE DIE THAT WAY NOBODY SORE.
Well if you add punctuation and phonetic speech it could be.... HE DIE THAT WAY,(ie. the car crash mentioned in the rest of the song) NOBODY SAW.
I was trying to find an anagram program to download so i could do it on a full scale for all songs etc. but was unsuccessful.
Any way its a start i suppose, thoughts?
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jan 29, 2005 22:14:35 GMT
Sheesh! I don't know that anagrams could be made of every single line of lyrics and be meaningful. I'm not saying they wouldn't be, but what a daunting task!
I'd say stick to titles. "A Day In The Life" should keep you busy for a while ("Death a Lie"). Avoid the phonetic stretches, and bear in mind that the rule is one use of letter per word, so that "letter" would allow for the use of two t's and two e's but only one r. Wordsmith.org
can help if you're brain is stuck, and words with negative connotations require confirmation. ;D
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Post by gracemer on Jan 29, 2005 22:52:33 GMT
I think that's a great idea, Paul. A lot of work, but if you're willing.... I'm not good a anagrams. Keep us posted.
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Post by Hamlet on Jan 30, 2005 1:33:05 GMT
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Post by Perplexed on Jan 30, 2005 5:10:02 GMT
Good work, plastic paul!
Anagrams----fascinating. Require a lot of patience and thought. Often yield amazing connections, to be sure!
And, maybe, on some level, that line carries that idea.
I do think that, as it is the introductory line to Lennon's "text", in this song, that one wants to think that it is his way of setting time, and place. The time of these thoughts, these ideas of his? Roughly the day he heard about "the lucky man who made the grade."
So, I was thinking, that Lennon was relating, in verse one, his reaction to the replacement. This paragraph isn't the news of Paul dying--that was weeeks ago--this paragraph is the news of the suitable replacement who has been tapped.
Actually, your comment made me realize this: paragraph SEEMS to go backward in time then, to the car accident.
I wonder if the next Paul section, in being a consistent going back in time, was utilized (posthumously) to give a picture of a busy, frantic Paul.
Then the last bit, the final verse, would be further back in time.
The "number of holes that needed filling in Blackland Lancashire" is a story that happens right before the last bit.
Four sections, all moving in retrograde.
Funny, the title is "A Day in the Life", but it seems to be spread out in time.
And, also, a day in whose life? John's, or Paul's, or William's?
Maybe JOhn wasn't so stict about that. Maybe he was writing generally, and "A Day in the Life" was thought by John to be the best kind of title, with it's vague tone of elegy.
But, back to anagrams--with John's penchant for puns, crytics meanings, wordplay, I have no doubt that he utilized some anagrams that are still undiscovered after all these years.
plastic--maybe you are one who will find some of them?.........
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Post by abbey on Jan 30, 2005 17:17:26 GMT
WTG Plastic. Keep plugging away ! [glow=red,2,300] [/glow] Keep plugging away, Plastic Paul. That anagram fits to a tee. Excellent job! I am not worth a darn at anagrams but it is exactly something Johnny would do. He was fantastic with Jabberwocky/Lennonistics/anagrams.......he could actually sing words backwards, too  The man was a genius and wasn't about to let the death of his closest friend go "unannouced to the world". |
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Post by PaulBearer on Jan 31, 2005 15:32:52 GMT
Didn't George Harrison fund a film called Jabberwocky?
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Post by abbey on Feb 2, 2005 17:39:46 GMT
That was Monty Python. I don't know if he funded it.
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Post by PaulBearer on Feb 3, 2005 2:23:33 GMT
He funded other Monty Python movies. That's why I wondered.
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Post by abbey on Feb 3, 2005 20:46:13 GMT
Why are you asking about Jabberwocky ? Why that movie?
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Post by plastic paul on Feb 4, 2005 2:00:47 GMT
Lets stick to anagrams here!
I have to say i am struggling her without computer equiptment to help me with these anagrams but i have found some very emotive words (without yet coming up with a phrase), for Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
Eg. (like i said they're emotive words, as well as words that link to theories, but a bit crap when not arranged into a phrase.)
CRASH, SURPRISE, DIRTY, GREAT, SECRET, PAUL, SLEEP, LOSE, SEA, STYLE, HELP, PLEASE, UNHAPPY, BEATLE, ABBEY, ROAD, SADLY, TOGETHER.
etc, please help if you can shed light on this!
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Post by PaulBearer on Feb 4, 2005 3:21:16 GMT
Why are you asking about Jabberwocky ? Why that movie? Because you mentioned that word in a previous post: ...He was fantastic with Jabberwocky/Lennonistics/anagrams.......he could actually sing words backwards, too The man was a genius and wasn't about to let the death of his closest friend go "unannouced to the world"... |
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 4, 2005 3:46:41 GMT
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Feb 4, 2005 4:34:53 GMT
As far as anagrams---isn't there a site that does them for one automatically? Where is the url.....hmm....its here on its on NIR...... wordsmith.org is one. |
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Post by beldabeast on Feb 7, 2005 17:00:05 GMT
Hey im new to this forum and this is my first post so try to go easy on me guys! I was browsing the webpage with all the info regarding pauls death when it struck me, the idea that john inserted clues that need to be deciphered in the form of re-arranging letters. So i took the first line of "a day in a life" and started work. "I read the news today oh boy" How about..... HE DIE THE WORST DEATH but it didnt use all the letters. Then it came to me (its a little rough around the edges i know, but).........HE DIE THAT WAY NOBODY SORE. Well if you add punctuation and phonetic speech it could be.... HE DIE THAT WAY,(ie. the car crash mentioned in the rest of the song) NOBODY SAW. I was trying to find an anagram program to download so i could do it on a full scale for all songs etc. but was unsuccessful. Any way its a start i suppose, thoughts? Very creative ! I love this stuff . It seems we have a good bunch of newcomers here . This kind of single focus group needs that . After a while a kind of artrithis sets in . With me , I had a hot streak going there for a while and I made some nice contributions . But I havent really produced much in quite some time , although I think the Manson angle will turn into something . If you were a big fan the topic gets real depressing . Cutting to the chase , a fresh influx of new talent energizes everyone . No secret projects ! Even if you suspect a idea really may be stupid put it up anyway . One of us may have the other part of the answer or the idea may cause someone to stumble upon something else . Tis the magic of brainstorming . |
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Post by abbey on Feb 7, 2005 20:16:10 GMT
Belda, agreed.
That poem is so weird. Does it have any hidden meanings ?
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Post by plastic paul on Feb 22, 2005 5:37:26 GMT
Well it turns out jabberwocky the film is not actually Monty Python as we know it.
Terry Gilliam directs it and to my knowledge it includes only two of the other 5 members, Michael Palin and Terry Jones, plus Neil Innes (out of the bonzo dog doo dah band or whatever they might be called), who despite being an unofficial member, featured with eric idle in "Rutland today" (a post python comedy show, in which they happen to do a parody of the beatles, called the rutles), the python feature films, and live at the hollywood bowl.
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Post by abbey on Feb 22, 2005 22:04:33 GMT
Always keep in mind the Johnny really liked Lewis Carroll and jabberwocky. He, himself, was a master of it. And he has given fantastic clues that he managed to sneak by under the noses of the "suits". Johnny was also totally capable of singing backwards. He was a genius in so many ways. It's too bad that the advanced eduacation wasn't around when John was in school. But then again, he loved being the delinquent. When students are bored because they are so much smarter than the rest of the class, they tend to get in to trouble..  |
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Post by Billy Shears on May 16, 2014 11:27:06 GMT
Just made a interesting discovery the other day. I looked up for an anagram fro " Revolution Nine", and I found two. One is pretty obvious : 1) Evolution Inner2) Violent Reunion |
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The man was a genius and wasn't about to let the death of his closest friend go "unannouced to the world".
