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Post by beatled on Mar 15, 2005 3:21:45 GMT
I'm still wondering what the big clue is on Abbey Road, but ok I'll give a try at adding to this. I'll jump ahead to "You Never Give Me Your Money", because perhaps if the timeline theory is true, then there is a missing song here. "Come and Get It" was a Bill song, he recorded it around the time of the Abbey Road recordings, and then played it to the members of Badfinger, who of course made it a big hit. So...I'd say CAGI should be placed before YNGMYM.. Did I hear you say that there must be a catch will you walk away from a fool and his money ...
Sonny, if you want it, here it is, come and get it but you'd better hurry 'cos it's going fast. You'd better hurry 'cos it's going fast.
Then in answer: You never give me your money, you only give me your funny paper. And in the middle of negotiations you break down.
One sweet dream. Pick up the bags and get in the limousine. Soon we'll be away from here. Step on the gas and wipe that tear away. One sweet dream came true today. Came true today. Came true today.The offer, the negotiations, leaving behind the old life in a luxury limo, but with a lot of regrets. Btw, the lyrics on one page, good reading: www.geocities.com/WileyMike/1Abbey.html
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Jun 9, 2005 19:22:31 GMT
I think that the "One Sweet Dream" may have something to do with Bill getting accepted into the Beatles, and moving to England. After all, it is lots of peoples dreams to become famous.
___Bill struggling through life in Canada or wherever (Bill talking)___ |Out of college, money spent, see no future, pay no rent. |All the money's gone, nowhere to go. |Any jobber got the sack, Monday morning, turning back. |Yellow lorry’s slow, nowhere to go. |But oh, that magic feeling, nowhere to go. |Oh, that magic feeling, nowhere to go, nowhere to go. ```````````````````````````````````````````
__Bill getting in a limousine to go to England or something_ |One sweet dream. (Bill) Pick(s) up the bags and get(s) in the limousine. |"Soon we'll be away from here," (says the driver). (he) Step(s) on the gas and (Bill) wipe(s) that tear away (from having to leave his family forever). |"One sweet dream came true (for you, Bill) today,"(says the driver). "Came true today. Came true today."
well?
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Post by BeatlePaul on Jun 10, 2005 0:07:09 GMT
"Mean Mr. Mustard" It's Viv Stanshall? Faul in his alter ego/disguise. His sister Pam takes him out to look at "the queen" (a transvestite). "Polythene Pam" One of the transvestites in the club run by Paul Raymond. (I'm not clear on all of this.) On vinyl the words are: "the kind of a girl who makes a musical bill" not "The News of the World". Bingo byrdsmaniac Bingo
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Post by plastic paul on Jun 10, 2005 0:43:13 GMT
I havent had time to read all posts but after reading the firsat couple i thought i'd respond.
First point, i think in Octopus' garden, i feel that "in the shade" is the crucial part, as if in the shade has a meaning, like in the darkness, invisible. "I'd like to be, under the sea, in an octopus' garden, in the shade". Therefore "I'd like to be, under the sea, in an octopuses' garden, and never be seen/found"
Secondly i thought that John said something along the lines of; i wrote the song i am the walrus thinking he was the nice guy but soon realised he wasn't the nice guy at all.
So......... perhaps john wrote "i am the walrus" to say "it had nothing to do with me", but then discovered what it really meant and said "paul was the walrus", either way it makes john out to be a potential bad guy (though i don't belive it myself), he might have had a guilty conscience.
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Post by semolinapilchard on Jun 10, 2005 1:46:27 GMT
I'm listening to the LP right now...during 'Octopus's Garden' right when Starkey says "...HAPPY AND THEY'RE SAFE' The ground came loose on my turntable and it made a crazy buzzing noise. That is of course neither here nor there...just thought I'd share... Once again, Maxwell's Silver Hammer gets the brush-off. Well, consider this... "Scottish mathematician and physicist who published physical and mathematical theories of the electromagnetic field. When he first became interested in electricity, he wrote Kelvin asking how best to proceed. Kelvin recommended that Maxwell read the published works in the order Faraday, Kelvin, Ampère, and then the German physicists. Maxwell wanted to present electricity in its most simple form. He started out by writing a paper entitled "On Faraday's Lines of Force" (1856), in which he translated Faraday's theories into mathematical form, presenting the lines of force as imaginary tubes containing an incompressible fluid. He then published "On Physical Lines of Force" (1861) in which he treated the lines of force as real entities, based on the movement of iron filings in a magnetic field and using the analogy of an idle wheel. He also presented a derivation that light consists of transverse undulations of the same medium which is the cause of electric and magnetic phenomena. Finally, he published a purely mathematical theory in "On a Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field" (1865). " "Maxwell's Demon Maxwell's Demon is an imaginary creature that the mathematician James Clerk Maxwell created to contradict the second law of thermodynamics. Suppose that you have a box filled with a gas at some temperature. This means that the average speed of the molecules is a certain amount depending on the temperature. Some of the molecules will be going faster than average and some will be going slower than average. Suppose that a partition is placed across the middle of the box separating the two sides into left and right. Both sides of the box are now filled with the gas at the same temperature. Maxwell imagined a molecule sized trap door in the partition with his minuscule creature poised at the door who is observing the molecules. When a faster than average molecule approaches the door he makes certain that it ends up on the left side (by opening the tiny door if it's coming from the right) and when a slower than average molecule approaches the door he makes sure that it ends up on the right side. So after these operations he ends up with a box in which all the faster than average gas molecules are in the left side and all the slower than average ones are in the right side. So the box is hot on the left and cold on the right. Then one can use this separation of temperature to run a heat engine by allowing the heat to flow from the hot side to the cold side Also, Ken Kesey put out a collection of short stories called 'Demon Box' which has a great story called "Maxwell's Box"... i wrote song about it back when I was in high school, like to hear it? Here it go.... Words devoid of meaning Classified by size Tumble from the pores Of ideas spawned from lies...etc
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Post by TotalInformation on Jun 10, 2005 5:53:01 GMT
Silver spoon - metonymy for wealth. There supposedly is a fan who broke into Paul's house soon after 'Faul' was there. Was she a wealthy "fan"? Was she close enough to the Beatles that she knew PID and was looking for evidence? But she wasn't killed, protected by her wealth.
Or maybe another wealthy girl - Jane Asher? Did she resort to sneaking off to Golem-Macca for advice about the horrific situation? Was her aristocratic father Mean Mr. Mustard driving her nuts?
It's important to remember that much of Abbey Road came from the Doll's House concept, which was to convey a story with a happier ending
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Post by TotalInformation on Jun 10, 2005 23:41:04 GMT
Yep, I'm talking about the old 33 and 1/3 records, which sometimes are different from what you might be hearing on, and seeing on, your CD's. For example, on the LP's (records) the line from "One Sweet Dream" that goes, "Yellow lorry's slow; nowhere to go" sounds like, "Yellow DORIS slow; nowhere to go."
Yeah it does sound a little like that on my firts US pressing...
the vinyl says:" One sweet dream BE true today" not "CAME true".
To me, mine sounded a bit like :
"One sweet dream came true today.. One sweet dream be true today.. One sweet dream made true today.."
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Post by Dr.No on Jun 10, 2005 23:48:24 GMT
On my cd version I always heard "yellow Dorris slow.."
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